Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with BRITISH RIL 
on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet shops (eg 
Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt arrived and Hornby say 
'This order is being processed now, should be with the shop next week at the 
latest'.

I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a day of 
each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?

Cheers,
Simon

In message 
          "simon"  wrote:

> Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with BRITISH RIL 
> on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet shops (eg 
> Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt arrived and Hornby say 
> 'This order is being processed now, should be with the shop next week at the 
> latest'.
> 
> I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a day of 
> each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon 
> 
> 

Were they *actually* in at Rails, or were Rails very confident they would
be getting stock within a few days/week to fulfill orders? I know 
nothing about how Rails do buisness, but I'll bet they (and everyone else)
are under great pressure to be the "first" to get new lines in stock. I 
see this in my line, where the big boys will put some effort into being 
seen to be "first" when I'm fully aware that the new widgets won't be
despatched for a few days. It's marketing I suppose.

Just a thought.

Cheers
Richard

-- 
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
              I have become... comfortably numb

"beamendsltd"  wrote in message 
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> In message 
>          "simon"  wrote:
>
>> Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with BRITISH 
>> RIL
>> on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet shops 
>> (eg
>> Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt arrived and Hornby 
>> say
>> 'This order is being processed now, should be with the shop next week at 
>> the
>> latest'.
>>
>> I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a day 
>> of
>> each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>>
>>
>
> Were they *actually* in at Rails, or were Rails very confident they would
> be getting stock within a few days/week to fulfill orders? I know
> nothing about how Rails do buisness, but I'll bet they (and everyone else)
> are under great pressure to be the "first" to get new lines in stock. I
> see this in my line, where the big boys will put some effort into being
> seen to be "first" when I'm fully aware that the new widgets won't be
> despatched for a few days. It's marketing I suppose.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Cheers
> Richard
>
> -- 
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
>              I have become... comfortably numb
Just because it's in the advert doesn't mean it exists...I found this out 
when ordering a Trix BR Standard Class 5 from a certain trader (who is still 
in business) and sending off a postal order for £5-17-6 in the late 1960s. 
The model never appeared (it was around the time that Trix gave up on the 
UK), but it took a letter from my father's solicitor to get the money back.
Brian

"BH Williams"  wrote in message 
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>
> "beamendsltd"  wrote in message 
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>> In message 
>>          "simon"  wrote:
>>
>>> Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with BRITISH 
>>> RIL
>>> on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet shops 
>>> (eg
>>> Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt arrived and Hornby 
>>> say
>>> 'This order is being processed now, should be with the shop next week at 
>>> the
>>> latest'.
>>>
>>> I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a day 
>>> of
>>> each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Were they *actually* in at Rails, or were Rails very confident they would
>> be getting stock within a few days/week to fulfill orders? I know
>> nothing about how Rails do buisness, but I'll bet they (and everyone 
>> else)
>> are under great pressure to be the "first" to get new lines in stock. I
>> see this in my line, where the big boys will put some effort into being
>> seen to be "first" when I'm fully aware that the new widgets won't be
>> despatched for a few days. It's marketing I suppose.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Richard
>>
>> -- 
>> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
>>              I have become... comfortably numb
> Just because it's in the advert doesn't mean it exists...I found this out 
> when ordering a Trix BR Standard Class 5 from a certain trader (who is 
> still in business) and sending off a postal order for £5-17-6 in the late 
> 1960s. The model never appeared (it was around the time that Trix gave up 
> on the UK), but it took a letter from my father's solicitor to get the 
> money back.
> Brian
>
Yep both Rails and the personally disliked Hattons sent mails out saying it 
was in stock and both show a quantity in stock on there sites.

Cheers,
Simon

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          "simon"  wrote:

> 
> "BH Williams"  wrote in message 
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> >
> > "beamendsltd"  wrote in message 
> > news:9f336bc74f%beamendsltd@btconnect.com...
> >> In message 
> >>          "simon"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with BRITISH 
> >>> RIL
> >>> on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet shops 
> >>> (eg
> >>> Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt arrived and Hornby 
> >>> say
> >>> 'This order is being processed now, should be with the shop next week at 
> >>> the
> >>> latest'.
> >>>
> >>> I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a day 
> >>> of
> >>> each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Simon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Were they *actually* in at Rails, or were Rails very confident they would
> >> be getting stock within a few days/week to fulfill orders? I know
> >> nothing about how Rails do buisness, but I'll bet they (and everyone 
> >> else)
> >> are under great pressure to be the "first" to get new lines in stock. I
> >> see this in my line, where the big boys will put some effort into being
> >> seen to be "first" when I'm fully aware that the new widgets won't be
> >> despatched for a few days. It's marketing I suppose.
> >>
> >> Just a thought.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
> >>              I have become... comfortably numb
> > Just because it's in the advert doesn't mean it exists...I found this out 
> > when ordering a Trix BR Standard Class 5 from a certain trader (who is 
> > still in business) and sending off a postal order for £5-17-6 in the late 
> > 1960s. The model never appeared (it was around the time that Trix gave up 
> > on the UK), but it took a letter from my father's solicitor to get the 
> > money back.
> > Brian
> >
> Yep both Rails and the personally disliked Hattons sent mails out saying it 
> was in stock and both show a quantity in stock on there sites.
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon 
> 
> 

So on ones's actually got one in their hands. That's not quite the same
thing as a web site saying they have stock, necesserily....... ;-)

Cheers
Richard

-- 
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
              I have become... comfortably numb

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> In message 
>          "simon"  wrote:
>
>>
>> "BH Williams"  wrote in message
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>> >
>> > "beamendsltd"  wrote in message
>> > news:9f336bc74f%beamendsltd@btconnect.com...
>> >> In message 
>> >>          "simon"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with 
>> >>> BRITISH
>> >>> RIL
>> >>> on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet 
>> >>> shops
>> >>> (eg
>> >>> Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt arrived and 
>> >>> Hornby
>> >>> say
>> >>> 'This order is being processed now, should be with the shop next week 
>> >>> at
>> >>> the
>> >>> latest'.
>> >>>
>> >>> I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a 
>> >>> day
>> >>> of
>> >>> each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Simon
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Were they *actually* in at Rails, or were Rails very confident they 
>> >> would
>> >> be getting stock within a few days/week to fulfill orders? I know
>> >> nothing about how Rails do buisness, but I'll bet they (and everyone
>> >> else)
>> >> are under great pressure to be the "first" to get new lines in stock. 
>> >> I
>> >> see this in my line, where the big boys will put some effort into 
>> >> being
>> >> seen to be "first" when I'm fully aware that the new widgets won't be
>> >> despatched for a few days. It's marketing I suppose.
>> >>
>> >> Just a thought.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Richard
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
>> >>              I have become... comfortably numb
>> > Just because it's in the advert doesn't mean it exists...I found this 
>> > out
>> > when ordering a Trix BR Standard Class 5 from a certain trader (who is
>> > still in business) and sending off a postal order for £5-17-6 in the 
>> > late
>> > 1960s. The model never appeared (it was around the time that Trix gave 
>> > up
>> > on the UK), but it took a letter from my father's solicitor to get the
>> > money back.
>> > Brian
>> >
>> Yep both Rails and the personally disliked Hattons sent mails out saying 
>> it
>> was in stock and both show a quantity in stock on there sites.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>>
>>
>
> So on ones's actually got one in their hands. That's not quite the same
> thing as a web site saying they have stock, necesserily....... ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Richard
>
> -- 
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
>              I have become... comfortably numb

whats your middle name - Thomas ?
Dont know if anyone has - please anyone, do you have one ?

Experience and anecdotal evidence says when these shops and mremag say the 
model has arrived it is in stock and available to purchase.

Cheers,
Simon

"BH Williams"  wrote:
> "beamendsltd"  wrote...
>>          "simon"  wrote:
>>
>>> Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with
>>> BRITISH RIL
>>> on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet
>>> shops (eg Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt
>>> arrived and Hornby  say 'This order is being processed now, should
>>> be with the shop next week at  the latest'. 
>>>
>>> I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a
>>> day of each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?
>>
>> Were they *actually* in at Rails, or were Rails very confident they
>> would be getting stock within a few days/week to fulfill orders? I
>> know nothing about how Rails do buisness, but I'll bet they (and
>> everyone else) are under great pressure to be the "first" to get new
>> lines in stock. I see this in my line, where the big boys will put
>> some effort into being seen to be "first" when I'm fully aware that
>> the new widgets won't be despatched for a few days. It's marketing I
>> suppose. 
>>
>> Just a thought.
> Just because it's in the advert doesn't mean it exists...I found this
> out when ordering a Trix BR Standard Class 5 from a certain trader
> (who is still in business) and sending off a postal order for £5-17-6
> in the late 1960s. The model never appeared (it was around the time
> that Trix gave up on the UK), but it took a letter from my father's
> solicitor to get the money back. Brian 

How much did your father's solicitor charge to write the letter?
Or did he do it pro bono?

-- 
Martin S.

Perhaps the suppliers and / or Hornby are awaiting the new prices ?

http://www.mfgleaders.co.uk/news/14947/Chinese-manufacturing-costs-up-$2m-for-Hornby.aspx

..... and I thought they moved manufacturing to China because it was
cheaper ?

Nice place to live and work :-

http://www.debohobo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/beijing-smog.bmp

I thought it was now illegal in the UK to offer items for sale if they
do not actually exist ( unless they say something like "stock expected
in next few days" )

Chris

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> "BH Williams"  wrote:
>> "beamendsltd"  wrote...
>>>          "simon"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have been waiting ages for the latest livery Duchess - Br with
>>>> BRITISH RIL
>>>> on the tender. Saw last week that they were in the bigger internet
>>>> shops (eg Rails) yet mine from the local toy shop still hasnt
>>>> arrived and Hornby  say 'This order is being processed now, should
>>>> be with the shop next week at  the latest'.
>>>>
>>>> I used to praise hornby for all shops getting new items in within a
>>>> day of each other, has anyone else noticed this change ?
>>>
>>> Were they *actually* in at Rails, or were Rails very confident they
>>> would be getting stock within a few days/week to fulfill orders? I
>>> know nothing about how Rails do buisness, but I'll bet they (and
>>> everyone else) are under great pressure to be the "first" to get new
>>> lines in stock. I see this in my line, where the big boys will put
>>> some effort into being seen to be "first" when I'm fully aware that
>>> the new widgets won't be despatched for a few days. It's marketing I
>>> suppose.
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>> Just because it's in the advert doesn't mean it exists...I found this
>> out when ordering a Trix BR Standard Class 5 from a certain trader
>> (who is still in business) and sending off a postal order for £5-17-6
>> in the late 1960s. The model never appeared (it was around the time
>> that Trix gave up on the UK), but it took a letter from my father's
>> solicitor to get the money back. Brian
>
> How much did your father's solicitor charge to write the letter?
> Or did he do it pro bono?
>
> -- 
> Martin S.
Nothing- he probably owed dad money....