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date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:11:05 -0000,
group: uk.rec.models.radio-control.air
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Hannibal (flair)
Has anyone got a flair Hannibal and how docile are they,will it loop and
roll ok? what about with the laser 80 upfront,your thoughts please!
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:11:05 -0000
author: dp
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Re: Hannibal (flair)
dp wrote:
> Has anyone got a flair Hannibal and how docile are they,will it loop and
> roll ok? what about with the laser 80 upfront,your thoughts please!
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>
No. but Ive seemn repoprts and flwon smaller stuff at lesser power in
this cl;ass.
Frankly built light you could probably fly it scale like with .25 up its
snout. The big engines are really there so it gets a bit of noseweight
and a prop that doesn't look like a matchstick on the front. Its the
sort of plane that won't land at idle..just keep going around..
The original Fokker EIII had wing warping, and certainly would not have
rolled, but this one probably will, and a loop and a 'original' immelman
turn (sort of upwrads barrel roll) will be in its repertoires as well.
But a plane like this looks best pottering around on tickover, if you
want an aerobat, there are better ones than this.
Myself I'd go for around 500watts of geared down electric swinging a 20"
prop.
Bur ripping the wings off a WWI sport scale model with a 90 4s isn't my
idea of where its at.
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:12:42 +0000
author: The Natural Philosopher a@b.c
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Re: Hannibal (flair)
Well... Flair recommend a MINIMUM of .75 FS, this is a big plane, 6kg/90"
wingspan/draggy; I've seen scale WW1 bipes (I know yours is a mono) at my
field with the minimum engine fitted, they might lift off OK, due to their
large wing, but watch them struggle into a gentle headwind, also if you do
have a problem and she stalls, that extra power to get out of it, is very
helpful. You don't have to race around the sky at full throttle, just nice
to know it's there if you need it..
just my 2p worth
Trefor
> Bur ripping the wings off a WWI sport scale model with a 90 4s isn't my
> idea of where its at.
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:11:15 -0000
author: Trefor
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Re: Hannibal (flair)
Trefor wrote:
> Well... Flair recommend a MINIMUM of .75 FS, this is a big plane, 6kg/90"
> wingspan/draggy; I've seen scale WW1 bipes (I know yours is a mono) at my
> field with the minimum engine fitted, they might lift off OK, due to their
> large wing, but watch them struggle into a gentle headwind, also if you do
> have a problem and she stalls, that extra power to get out of it, is very
> helpful. You don't have to race around the sky at full throttle, just nice
> to know it's there if you need it..
>
>
> just my 2p worth
>
> Trefor
>
>> Bur ripping the wings off a WWI sport scale model with a 90 4s isn't my
>> idea of where its at.
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The trouble is the RPM the power units run at make em crappy for slow
planes. A 4:1 reduction ratio would be good, then you can have a 20x20
prop on a 30 2 stroke doing 3000 RPM ;-)
That solves the wind problem too. Coarser pitch prop..
Anyway I'd go for the largest coasest pitch prop on a big chuggy 4
stroke, and try not to exceed 3000 RPM or it will sound silly.
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:53:25 +0000
author: The Natural Philosopher a@b.c
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Re: Hannibal (flair)
You probably don't want to "go leccy", but if you did, I have heard you can
put a "Sound System" on your plane to reproduce the "genuine" 4 stroke
sound. Not sure how it works exactly, presumably it increases/decreases in
pitch with throttle setting.
I have seen Bob Mahoney's magnificent leccy "Spirit of St Louis" many times;
always felt it could use a "sound system"
just my opinion
Trefor
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> Myself I'd go for around 500watts of geared down electric swinging a 20"
> prop.
date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:43:38 -0000
author: Trefor
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Re: Hannibal (flair)
"Trefor" wrote in message
news:UIydnbJ4Q5PGWD3anZ2dnUVZ8tChnZ2d@brightview.com...
> You probably don't want to "go leccy", but if you did, I have heard you
> can put a "Sound System" on your plane to reproduce the "genuine" 4 stroke
> sound. Not sure how it works exactly, presumably it increases/decreases in
> pitch with throttle setting.
>
try this video of a 'scale sound P47'
http://tinyurl.com/ytw6kj
The video was shot in Florida I think, but the bloke is an expatriate
Northener by his accent.
If he tried this in the UK he would risk breaking the 83db rule!
P
date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:15:26 GMT
author: Pointer
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Re: Hannibal (flair)
"Pointer" wrote in message
news:ywtoj.6091$HV6.2754@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
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> "Trefor" wrote in message
> news:UIydnbJ4Q5PGWD3anZ2dnUVZ8tChnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> You probably don't want to "go leccy", but if you did, I have heard you
>> can put a "Sound System" on your plane to reproduce the "genuine" 4
>> stroke sound. Not sure how it works exactly, presumably it
>> increases/decreases in pitch with throttle setting.
>>
>
> try this video of a 'scale sound P47'
> http://tinyurl.com/ytw6kj
>
> The video was shot in Florida I think, but the bloke is an expatriate
> Northener by his accent.
> If he tried this in the UK he would risk breaking the 83db rule!
>
> P
Just noticed that Brian Mitchell drives a UK registered car, so presumably
he resides & flies in the UK, just uses a US website for his videos.
Sorry about that:-)
P
date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:27:16 GMT
author: Pointer
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