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date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:44:39 +0100,    group: uk.rec.models.radio-control.air        back       
Outrunner conversion   
Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
of the bulkhead please?
I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
pressure or what is supposed to happen.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:44:39 +0100   author:   John Blake

Re: Outrunner conversion   
John Blake wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
> so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
> of the bulkhead please?
> I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
> were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
> damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
> pressure or what is supposed to happen.
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 
I had the same problem with another make and I found the shaft had been 
coated with lock tight and it had to be pushed out with some force
date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:26:10 GMT   author:   Kevin

Re: Outrunner conversion   
Many don't need to have the shaft touched. They use a prop adaptor to go on 
the back end and a drive adaptor shaped in a cross for what was the shafted 
end. The Down side is that the shaft sticks out the 'wrong' end.

regards Peter


"Kevin"  wrote in message 
news:SPvQi.21190$NE2.7268@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> John Blake wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
>> so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
>> of the bulkhead please?
>> I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
>> were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
>> damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
>> pressure or what is supposed to happen.
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> I had the same problem with another make and I found the shaft had been 
> coated with lock tight and it had to be pushed out with some force
date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:50:36 +0100   author:   Peter Seddon

Re: Outrunner conversion   
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:26:10 GMT, Kevin 
wrote:

>John Blake wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
>> so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
>> of the bulkhead please?
>> I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
>> were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
>> damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
>> pressure or what is supposed to happen.
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 
>I had the same problem with another make and I found the shaft had been 
>coated with lock tight and it had to be pushed out with some force

Thanks Kevin, I managed to get the shaft out and refitted the other
way, but now there is nothing to hold the motor together - the shaft
is stepped at one end and had grub screws the other but now both are
at one end.
date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:36:19 +0100   author:   John Blake

Re: Outrunner conversion   
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:50:36 +0100, "Peter Seddon"
 wrote:

>Many don't need to have the shaft touched. They use a prop adaptor to go on 
>the back end and a drive adaptor shaped in a cross for what was the shafted 
>end. The Down side is that the shaft sticks out the 'wrong' end.
>
>regards Peter
>
>
>"Kevin"  wrote in message 
>news:SPvQi.21190$NE2.7268@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> John Blake wrote:
>>> Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
>>> so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
>>> of the bulkhead please?
>>> I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
>>> were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
>>> damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
>>> pressure or what is supposed to happen.
>>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>> I had the same problem with another make and I found the shaft had been 
>> coated with lock tight and it had to be pushed out with some force 

Any idea where I might get one?
date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:37:22 +0100   author:   John Blake

Re: Outrunner conversion   
John Blake wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:50:36 +0100, "Peter Seddon"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Many don't need to have the shaft touched. They use a prop adaptor to go on 
>> the back end and a drive adaptor shaped in a cross for what was the shafted 
>> end. The Down side is that the shaft sticks out the 'wrong' end.
>>
>> regards Peter
>>
>>
>> "Kevin"  wrote in message 
>> news:SPvQi.21190$NE2.7268@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>> John Blake wrote:
>>>> Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
>>>> so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
>>>> of the bulkhead please?
>>>> I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
>>>> were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
>>>> damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
>>>> pressure or what is supposed to happen.
>>>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>> I had the same problem with another make and I found the shaft had been 
>>> coated with lock tight and it had to be pushed out with some force 
> 
> Any idea where I might get one?
a lot of motors come with this as standard
date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:25:22 GMT   author:   Kevin

Re: Outrunner conversion   
Try the original supplier or any of the electric goody suppliers - watch out 
as there are no standards on dimensions - eg puffinmodels.

regards Peter


"John Blake"  wrote in message 
news:l997h3tsep5lhdjndlm1ojaiip90hki33n@4 ax.com...
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:50:36 +0100, "Peter Seddon"
>  wrote:
>
>>Many don't need to have the shaft touched. They use a prop adaptor to go 
>>on
>>the back end and a drive adaptor shaped in a cross for what was the 
>>shafted
>>end. The Down side is that the shaft sticks out the 'wrong' end.
>>
>>regards Peter
>>
>>
>>"Kevin"  wrote in message
>>news:SPvQi.21190$NE2.7268@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>> John Blake wrote:
>>>> Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
>>>> so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
>>>> of the bulkhead please?
>>>> I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
>>>> were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
>>>> damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
>>>> pressure or what is supposed to happen.
>>>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>> I had the same problem with another make and I found the shaft had been
>>> coated with lock tight and it had to be pushed out with some force
>
> Any idea where I might get one?
date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:05:41 +0100   author:   Peter Seddon

Re: Outrunner conversion   
John Blake wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:26:10 GMT, Kevin 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>John Blake wrote:
>>
>>>Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
>>>so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
>>>of the bulkhead please?
>>>I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
>>>were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
>>>damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
>>>pressure or what is supposed to happen.
>>>Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 
>>>
>>I had the same problem with another make and I found the shaft had been 
>>coated with lock tight and it had to be pushed out with some force
>>
> 
> Thanks Kevin, I managed to get the shaft out and refitted the other
> way, but now there is nothing to hold the motor together - the shaft
> is stepped at one end and had grub screws the other but now both are
> at one end. 
> 

I don't know your motor but you can get shafts, circlips and 
bearings from somewhere like gobrushless.com and I think 
Micron were selling some of their products.  Hillcott 
Electronics also have prop drivers and savers which might 
help you out.

Regards,

Steve
Salisbury
date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:14:02 GMT   author:   Steven Crook

Re: Outrunner conversion   
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:14:02 GMT, Steven Crook
 wrote:

>
>I don't know your motor but you can get shafts, circlips and 
>bearings from somewhere like gobrushless.com and I think 
>Micron were selling some of their products.  Hillcott 
>Electronics also have prop drivers and savers which might 
>help you out.
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve
>Salisbury

Thanks Steve, I had a look at those sites but couldn't find anything
that would do. It looks as though I'll have to leave the motor as it
is and make a special mounting for it.
date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:50:57 +0100   author:   John Blake

Re: Outrunner conversion   
In article , John Blake 
 writes
>Can anyone tell me how to reverse the shaft of a brushless outrunner
>so that the motor will mount with the main part of the motor in front
>of the bulkhead please?
>I have a mystery D2830-800 and have taken two grub screws out that
>were securing the shaft, but nothing seems to budge. I don't want to
>damage it but am not sure if the shaft should push out with some
>pressure or what is supposed to happen.
>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

For the AXI 2808/24 you can get a mounting kit.
But that won't allow the use of your 4mm prop-saver.
You have to turn the prop adapter down until it becomes a prop-saver.
-- 
Chris
date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:22:41 +0000   author:   Chris

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