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date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.rec.models.engineering        back       
Question About Selling on Ebay   
Rather than jump though hoops to find the answers on ebay ..
thought i would ask here .

I haven't sold anything on ebay for quite some time

so I'm unfamiliar

1... are you still aloud to use HTML code and photobucket ..
2... someone said on one of the forums that they have or have done
already... made sellers offer free postage ..
3..i know about compulsory paypal ..on non pick up items ..what else
has changed in the last 12 months ..
4 if you haven't sold anything for twelve months is pay pal free for
up to a certain amount of money.

5...what should i watch out for ........are they using dirty tricks on
you when listing to get more money out of you .

6. last time i remember incurring additional charges for credit cards
and e-checks.........how do i avoid this.

Going to list the Ivan law myford hobbing attatchment, maybe my amolco

all the best.markj
date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT)   author:   mark

Re: Question About Selling on Ebay   
mattathayde had written this in response to
http://rittercnc.com/modelengineering/Question-About-Selling-on-Ebay-12179-.htm
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-------------------------------------
mark wrote:




> Rather than jump though hoops to find the answers on ebay ..
> thought i would ask here .

> I haven't sold anything on ebay for quite some time

> so I'm unfamiliar

> 1... are you still aloud to use HTML code and photobucket ..
> 2... someone said on one of the forums that they have or have done
> already... made sellers offer free postage ..
> 3..i know about compulsory paypal ..on non pick up items ..what else
> has changed in the last 12 months ..
> 4 if you haven't sold anything for twelve months is pay pal free for
> up to a certain amount of money.

> 5...what should i watch out for ........are they using dirty tricks on
> you when listing to get more money out of you .

> 6. last time i remember incurring additional charges for credit cards
> and e-checks.........how do i avoid this.

> Going to list the Ivan law myford hobbing attatchment, maybe my amolco

> all the best.markj

i havent used ebay for a while but i can help a little bit.  

1- i think you can use html still just looking at some of the listings but
not 
positive on PB (not positive on this part though)

2- havent see the free postage thing, i bout something a few days ago and
paid 
postage on it

3/4- paypal now charges fees when you use a system that sends the little
"please 
pay me" email (i.e. ebay, etsy, etc)  they charge 2.9% plus i think 30
cents for 
the transaction 

5- i think anything that will charge you is listed as a $ for service 

6-if you dont want the fees of the echeck and CCs just dont accept them is 
pretty much the only options 

-matt


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date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:44:13 +0000   author:   (mattathayde)

Re: Question About Selling on Ebay   
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT), mark
 wrote:

>Rather than jump though hoops to find the answers on ebay ..
>thought i would ask here .
>
>I haven't sold anything on ebay for quite some time
>
>so I'm unfamiliar
>
>1... are you still aloud to use HTML code and photobucket ..
>2... someone said on one of the forums that they have or have done
>already... made sellers offer free postage ..
>3..i know about compulsory paypal ..on non pick up items ..what else
>has changed in the last 12 months ..
>4 if you haven't sold anything for twelve months is pay pal free for
>up to a certain amount of money.
>
>5...what should i watch out for ........are they using dirty tricks on
>you when listing to get more money out of you .
>
>6. last time i remember incurring additional charges for credit cards
>and e-checks.........how do i avoid this.
>
>Going to list the Ivan law myford hobbing attatchment, maybe my amolco
>
>all the best.markj

Hello Mark,
I got caught out recently in similar circumstances to you.

I'm not sure about the HTML & PB, I think external references to
photos are OK as there is that option in making a listing, but I
suspect ebay picks up the photo and embeds it into the listing rather
than liniking to PB.  I think links to 'your site' are prohibited.

eBay final value charges are now 10%, they were 5%ish

It  is compulsory to offer Pimpal, but you might get away with
refusing it after the event if it's a collection only item. Pp charges
are a sliding scale of 5+% up to something like £100 and less after
that. However, if you take/try to take as much as maybe £100 in a
month they will insist you upgrade to a trading account before they
permit you to colect the money - or pay an excess sin fee. On one
occasion I went over the limit and got charged 50p by paypal for a
£2.50 transaction, plus the ebay fees ending up at a total of about
38% of the transaction value.

fleaBay has gone a long way to completely insulating  the seller from
the buyer (presumably so you can't do back door deals). Even after
doing a trade, you don't get to see the buyers email address unless
they have already paid with pimpal, the only route for comms is
through the fleabay comms system or put your phone number in the
listing 'for queries'.

While a listing is active at least, you can only reply once to a given
query. This is aggro if, like me you get a query and respond with 'not
sure, I'll check and let you know tomorrow' - can't do that, the comms
system blocks out the reply button after one use, but you obviously
don't know that's going to happen in advance so you're stuck with the
other guy expecting a response which you are not enabled to give. I
did a search on his username and tried contacting him that way and the
system picked up that I'd previously replied to him, assumed I was
trading ilicitly and blocked the message.

Don't mention the work 'Cash' anywhere, I had two items cancelled
(unhelpfully after 6 days 12 hours, with bids present!) because I said
cash on collection. They picked up the word and said I was trying to
elicit an illegal transaction.

All in all I have found ebay recently to have become an expensive
thorough PITA and I doubt I'll use it for selling in the future very
much. I don't condone the very high postage fees charged by some
people, but I can really understand why - 'though you don't actually
gain as much as you think, because the pimpal commission is charged on
the whole sum including postage.

By the time you're finished, fleabay/pimpal will have had 15~20% of
your money, but I suppose at least you get a lot of coverage and might
argue that that increases the selling price somewhat.

Richard
date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:50:18 +0100   author:   Richard Shute

Re: Question About Selling on Ebay   
On 23 Aug, 09:50, Richard Shute 
wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT), mark
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >Rather than jump though hoops to find the answers on ebay ..
> >thought i would ask here .
>
> >I haven't sold anything on ebay for quite some time
>
> >so I'm unfamiliar
>
> >1... are you still aloud to use HTML code and photobucket ..
> >2... someone said on one of the forums that they have or have done
> >already... made sellers offer free postage ..
> >3..i know about compulsory paypal ..on non pick up items ..what else
> >has changed in the last 12 months ..
> >4 if you haven't sold anything for twelve months is pay pal free for
> >up to a certain amount of money.
>
> >5...what should i watch out for ........are they using dirty tricks on
> >you when listing to get more money out of you .
>
> >6. last time i remember incurring additional charges for credit cards
> >and e-checks.........how do i avoid this.
>
> >Going to list the Ivan law myford hobbing attatchment, maybe my amolco
>
> >all the best.markj
>
> Hello Mark,
> I got caught out recently in similar circumstances to you.
>
> I'm not sure about the HTML & PB, I think external references to
> photos are OK as there is that option in making a listing, but I
> suspect ebay picks up the photo and embeds it into the listing rather
> than liniking to PB.  I think links to 'your site' are prohibited.
>
> eBay final value charges are now 10%, they were 5%ish
>
> It  is compulsory to offer Pimpal, but you might get away with
> refusing it after the event if it's a collection only item. Pp charges
> are a sliding scale of 5% up to something like £100 and less after
> that. However, if you take/try to take as much as maybe £100 in a
> month they will insist you upgrade to a trading account before they
> permit you to colect the money - or pay an excess sin fee. On one
> occasion I went over the limit and got charged 50p by paypal for a
> £2.50 transaction, plus the ebay fees ending up at a total of about
> 38% of the transaction value.
>
> fleaBay has gone a long way to completely insulating  the seller from
> the buyer (presumably so you can't do back door deals). Even after
> doing a trade, you don't get to see the buyers email address unless
> they have already paid with pimpal, the only route for comms is
> through the fleabay comms system or put your phone number in the
> listing 'for queries'.
>
> While a listing is active at least, you can only reply once to a given
> query. This is aggro if, like me you get a query and respond with 'not
> sure, I'll check and let you know tomorrow' - can't do that, the comms
> system blocks out the reply button after one use, but you obviously
> don't know that's going to happen in advance so you're stuck with the
> other guy expecting a response which you are not enabled to give. I
> did a search on his username and tried contacting him that way and the
> system picked up that I'd previously replied to him, assumed I was
> trading ilicitly and blocked the message.
>
> Don't mention the work 'Cash' anywhere, I had two items cancelled
> (unhelpfully after 6 days 12 hours, with bids present!) because I said
> cash on collection. They picked up the word and said I was trying to
> elicit an illegal transaction.
>
> All in all I have found ebay recently to have become an expensive
> thorough PITA and I doubt I'll use it for selling in the future very
> much. I don't condone the very high postage fees charged by some
> people, but I can really understand why - 'though you don't actually
> gain as much as you think, because the pimpal commission is charged on
> the whole sum including postage.
>
> By the time you're finished, fleabay/pimpal will have had 15~20% of
> your money, but I suppose at least you get a lot of coverage and might
> argue that that increases the selling price somewhat.
>
> Richard- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for very helpful reply Richard ..
think will list on John and Charles' site

Car boot sales have gone nuts here in North Wales.. at least three
giant ones a  week, through the whole summer..in a radius of 5 miles.
and practically one every day, if i was willing to travel 25 miles
i wondered why .
..now i know.

All the best.markj
date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:50:35 -0700 (PDT)   author:   mark

Re: Question About Selling on Ebay   
On 23 Aug, 09:50, Richard Shute 
wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT), mark
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >Rather than jump though hoops to find the answers on ebay ..
> >thought i would ask here .
>
> >I haven't sold anything on ebay for quite some time
>
> >so I'm unfamiliar
>
> >1... are you still aloud to use HTML code and photobucket ..
> >2... someone said on one of the forums that they have or have done
> >already... made sellers offer free postage ..
> >3..i know about compulsory paypal ..on non pick up items ..what else
> >has changed in the last 12 months ..
> >4 if you haven't sold anything for twelve months is pay pal free for
> >up to a certain amount of money.
>
> >5...what should i watch out for ........are they using dirty tricks on
> >you when listing to get more money out of you .
>
> >6. last time i remember incurring additional charges for credit cards
> >and e-checks.........how do i avoid this.
>
> >Going to list the Ivan law myford hobbing attatchment, maybe my amolco
>
> >all the best.markj
>
> Hello Mark,
> I got caught out recently in similar circumstances to you.
>
> I'm not sure about the HTML & PB, I think external references to
> photos are OK as there is that option in making a listing, but I
> suspect ebay picks up the photo and embeds it into the listing rather
> than liniking to PB.  I think links to 'your site' are prohibited.


yep was wondering what was going on ..

you used to get the pics lower down in the listing that you insert
amongst HTML code .

now i see they must pinch the pics ..downsize them ..and degrade
them ..and put them up top..........when you do open full size, the
pics been degraded ..too low kb's.

last time i sold stuff ..i used to take my time and make a beautifully
presented HTML show....that would show off my items to advantage.

so now i cant ...i cant really present in a fashion that would let
people know that an item is pristine ..and worth paying something for.

therefor .........with the other charges the hastle of having a non
paying bidder .......or a bidder that receives the item ........and
says he hasnt...and you're made to accept a knock and refund etc...i
say bugger it .

hope some one starts up a proper competitive auction site soon ..that
takes on ebay ..and knocks them to the  oblivion that they deserve.

all the best.markj
date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:31:14 -0700 (PDT)   author:   mark

Re: Question About Selling on Ebay   
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:31:14 -0700 (PDT), mark
 wrote:

>hope some one starts up a proper competitive auction site soon ..that
>takes on ebay ..and knocks them to the  oblivion that they deserve.

Unfortunately, don't hold your breath. ebay is way too big & all
pervasive to give serious competition any kind of a chance.

Regards,
Tony
date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:49:44 +0100   author:   Tony Jeffree

Re: Question About Selling on Ebay   
On 23 Aug, 13:49, Tony Jeffree  wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:31:14 -0700 (PDT), mark
>
>  wrote:
> >hope some one starts up a proper competitive auction site soon ..that
> >takes on ebay ..and knocks them to the  oblivion that they deserve.
>
> Unfortunately, don't hold your breath. ebay is way too big & all
> pervasive to give serious competition any kind of a chance.
>
> Regards,
> Tony

that photobucket and html thing must have only happend over the last 7
days or so ..

because i see some auctions that are nearly due to finish, still
running it ..example..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Victorian-Burr-Walnut-Antique-Gentlemen-s-Press_W0QQitemZ390084872987QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Antiques_AntiqueFurniture_SM?hash=item5ad2decb1b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

all the best.markj
date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 06:21:25 -0700 (PDT)   author:   mark

Re: Question About Selling on Ebay   
just found out ..you can get round the non listing of HTML and pics
embedded ..
with a free ebay prog called turbo lister

sort of dream weaver for ebay

Ive downloaded it ...and you can paste your previous template right
into it ..

it enables you to take your time with the listing...editing it on your
desktop ..before clicking the submit button

all the buttons are there ..postage  start price, start time

looks like easy work to me .

you can do several listings on it ...and set them so they all start at
staggered times or at the same time.........then upload them all in
one go....with all the form filling done.

all the best.markj
date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:39:55 -0700 (PDT)   author:   mark

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