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date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT),
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Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
I put in a token bid for an item the other day, something I could make
good use of if it comes cheaply. It doesn't finish till next weekend
but checked this morning and they tell me "It's almost over and you're
currently the high bidder". Wow!! I'm excited!
Anyone else seeing this?
Tim
date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
author: Tim
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
>I put in a token bid for an item the other day, something I could make
>good use of if it comes cheaply. It doesn't finish till next weekend
>but checked this morning and they tell me "It's almost over and you're
>currently the high bidder". Wow!! I'm excited!
>Anyone else seeing this?
>
>Tim
Sounds about right for ebay, all pretty pictures but little substance.
There's a lot of changes going on right now, not all good ones either. They are
gradually changing over to an 'all-trader' selling position, which will see
almost all standard auctions disappear eventually.
Buy-it-Now auctions now dominate almost all the categories as buyers with single
items drop out and go elsewhere to sell.
Their last financial report wasn't too good, only Skype and PayPal helped them
make any money.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8164091.stm
Peter
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date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:06:31 +0100
author: Peter A Forbes
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
On 28 July, 21:06, Peter A Forbes wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
> >I put in a token bid for an item the other day, something I could make
> >good use of if it comes cheaply. It doesn't finish till next weekend
> >but checked this morning and they tell me "It's almost over and you're
> >currently the high bidder". Wow!! I'm excited!
> >Anyone else seeing this?
>
> >Tim
>
> Sounds about right for ebay, all pretty pictures but little substance.
>
> There's a lot of changes going on right now, not all good ones either. They are
> gradually changing over to an 'all-trader' selling position, which will see
> almost all standard auctions disappear eventually.
>
> Buy-it-Now auctions now dominate almost all the categories as buyers with single
> items drop out and go elsewhere to sell.
>
> Their last financial report wasn't too good, only Skype and PayPal helped them
> make any money.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8164091.stm
>
> Peter
>
It had gone back to 'normal' by this evening, just the usual 'you're
the current high bidder'.
Not sure what the motivation is for ebay to head the way they are
doing, they're putting a lot of people off selling (myself included)
but it seems to be part of the plan?
Tim
date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:35:26 -0700 (PDT)
author: Tim
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
Peter A Forbes wrote:
> Buy-it-Now auctions now dominate almost all the categories as buyers with single
> items drop out and go elsewhere to sell.
Where do the single-item sellers advertise stuff of interest to UKRME
these days? I thought eBay had a strangle hold on the market, but I
guess I'm just showing my ignorance. There do still appear to be
bargains to be had, but we'll see when I go collect the CVA I got for
£250 yesterday whether I'm riding a horse or an ass.
Regards,
Alan
date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:09:58 +0100
author: Alan Ibbetson
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
Tim wrote:
> On 28 July, 21:06, Peter A Forbes wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
>>> I put in a token bid for an item the other day, something I could make
>>> good use of if it comes cheaply. It doesn't finish till next weekend
>>> but checked this morning and they tell me "It's almost over and you're
>>> currently the high bidder". Wow!! I'm excited!
>>> Anyone else seeing this?
>>> Tim
>> Sounds about right for ebay, all pretty pictures but little substance.
>>
>> There's a lot of changes going on right now, not all good ones either. They are
>> gradually changing over to an 'all-trader' selling position, which will see
>> almost all standard auctions disappear eventually.
>>
>> Buy-it-Now auctions now dominate almost all the categories as buyers with single
>> items drop out and go elsewhere to sell.
>>
>> Their last financial report wasn't too good, only Skype and PayPal helped them
>> make any money.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8164091.stm
>
> It had gone back to 'normal' by this evening, just the usual 'you're
> the current high bidder'.
>
> Not sure what the motivation is for ebay to head the way they are
> doing, they're putting a lot of people off selling (myself included)
> but it seems to be part of the plan?
The last change that pigged me off was forcing Flash advertising onto many of
the pages. Still it did become such a pain that I found a plugin to disable
flash unless I hit 'play' on it and this has helped on a lot of other sites as
well :)
The main problem with ebay nowadays is their idea that they are no longer a
'car boot sale on line' so people advertising and selling second hand goods
get hit with the same rules that should only apply to brand new goods. My
siblings have been hit a couple of time now with people buying things they are
clearing out, only to have the money pulled back from them and in one case not
getting the goods back !!!
So YES we need a more ethical 'car boot sale on line' and kick ebay into touch.
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date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:07:49 +0100
author: Lester Caine
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Re: Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:07:49 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
>The last change that pigged me off was forcing Flash advertising onto many of
>the pages. Still it did become such a pain that I found a plugin to disable
>flash unless I hit 'play' on it and this has helped on a lot of other sites as
>well :)
Any links to where we can get this?
I've tried a few Flashblockers but few work in Opera, only IE.
Peter
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date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:06:47 +0100
author: Peter A Forbes
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
On Jul 29, 11:06 am, Peter A Forbes wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:07:49 퍝, Lester Caine wrote:
> >The last change that pigged me off was forcing Flash advertising onto many of
> >the pages. Still it did become such a pain that I found a plugin to disable
> >flash unless I hit 'play' on it and this has helped on a lot of other sites as
> >well :)
>
> Any links to where we can get this?
>
> I've tried a few Flashblockers but few work in Opera, only IE.
>
> Peter
> --
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> Email: die...@easynet.co.ukhttp://www.oldengine.org/members/dieselhttp://www.stationary-engine.co.ukhttp://www.oldengine.co.uk
yes i want this prog as well ..
i have great trouble with a royal mail advert in yahoo mail ..its
doing my head in ..
its freezes the computer until its fully loaded and can take up to 30
secs to recover .
all the best.markj
date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:20:46 -0700 (PDT)
author: mark
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
"Peter A Forbes" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim
> wrote:
>
>>I put in a token bid for an item the other day, something I could make
>>good use of if it comes cheaply. It doesn't finish till next weekend
>>but checked this morning and they tell me "It's almost over and you're
>>currently the high bidder". Wow!! I'm excited!
>>Anyone else seeing this?
>>
>>Tim
>
> Sounds about right for ebay, all pretty pictures but little substance.
>
> There's a lot of changes going on right now, not all good ones either.
> They are
> gradually changing over to an 'all-trader' selling position, which will
> see
> almost all standard auctions disappear eventually.
>
> Buy-it-Now auctions now dominate almost all the categories as buyers with
> single
> items drop out and go elsewhere to sell.
That's good. I've purchased 'buy it now' items like shoelaces, shaver foil,
Diesel biocide and rubber trailer buffers just recently. It's very easy,
convenient and much better than driving across half the county for it. I'd
be quite happy if all the second-hand stuff sold by crooks and advertised as
good condition when it's obviously not was gone for good! :-)
Julian.
date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:48:18 +0100
author: Julian
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
mark wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:06 am, Peter A Forbes wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:07:49 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
>>> The last change that pigged me off was forcing Flash advertising onto many of
>>> the pages. Still it did become such a pain that I found a plugin to disable
>>> flash unless I hit 'play' on it and this has helped on a lot of other sites as
>>> well :)
>> Any links to where we can get this?
>>
>> I've tried a few Flashblockers but few work in Opera, only IE.
I'm on Seamonkey ... on Linux ... and FlashBlock is working nicely for me even
though it is an older version that is used.
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Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php
date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:21:24 +0100
author: Lester Caine
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
'i have great trouble with a royal mail advert in yahoo mail ..its.
doing my head in.'
Don't use yahoo! 'Tis sh^^....rubbish.
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date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:15:47 -0500
author: elj221c
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:48:18 +0100, "Julian" wrote:
>
<snip>
>>
>> Buy-it-Now auctions now dominate almost all the categories as buyers with
>> single
>> items drop out and go elsewhere to sell.
>
>That's good. I've purchased 'buy it now' items like shoelaces, shaver foil,
>Diesel biocide and rubber trailer buffers just recently. It's very easy,
>convenient and much better than driving across half the county for it. I'd
>be quite happy if all the second-hand stuff sold by crooks and advertised as
>good condition when it's obviously not was gone for good! :-)
>
>Julian.
>
I think that's a bit harsh. I've done a good deal more buying than
selling on fleabay and only had a few bad experiences, roughly in
equal proportion used and new stuff. A lot of the new stuff may indeed
be new, but calling it rubbish would be charitable, viz mild steel
hacksaw blades for example. You do have to be a bit careful with
expectations, one blokes 'Good' is someone elses 'Junk' just because
of perspective.
I've gone right off fleabay for selling, their rules and costs,
especially with Pimpal thrown in are extortionate. I object to being
forced to pay (Pp) for someone elses convenience and to get my own
money. Because I'm not a busess user, they recently rushed me 50p
charges to claim a £2.50 payment. Yeah, I know, it's _only_ 50p, but
20% just on the money plus the auction charges is taking the pi$$.
I got a terse email from them next time when I put in the payments
methods '...anything .... even Tuareg fertility beads...preferred to
Pimpal..' Can't imagine why.
Richard
date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:25:22 +0100
author: Richard Shute
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
Lester Caine wrote:
>
> So YES we need a more ethical 'car boot sale on line' and kick ebay into
> touch.
>
Sadly, online auctions are a "natural monopoly", so shifting eBay
will be difficult.
BugBear
date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:32:56 +0100
author: bugbear _trim
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
"Richard Shute" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:48:18 +0100, "Julian" wrote:
>
>>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Buy-it-Now auctions now dominate almost all the categories as buyers
>>> with
>>> single
>>> items drop out and go elsewhere to sell.
>>
>>That's good. I've purchased 'buy it now' items like shoelaces, shaver
>>foil,
>>Diesel biocide and rubber trailer buffers just recently. It's very easy,
>>convenient and much better than driving across half the county for it. I'd
>>be quite happy if all the second-hand stuff sold by crooks and advertised
>>as
>>good condition when it's obviously not was gone for good! :-)
>>
>>Julian.
>>
> I think that's a bit harsh. I've done a good deal more buying than
> selling on fleabay and only had a few bad experiences, roughly in
> equal proportion used and new stuff.
Yes I know, I did stick a smiley in there. Recently I've purchased a walk
behind petrol engined vacuum cleaner and a Ransomes Bobcat mower, both quite
old but acquired cheaply and in good working order.
I tell you what, rather than look for specific retailers on the www for
stuff like car parts and razor shaver foil etc I now gravitate to e-bay
because the ''buy it now'' option coupled with the ease of using PP, ie not
having to register details for each sale and transaction, makes it a winner
for me.
I'm not too bothered about the various negatives, I'm out for the easy life
(so I can devote more time to working on old rubbish :-) ) and thus far it's
worked for me....
Julian.
date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:46:45 +0100
author: Julian
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
<...>
>
>... I'm out for the easy life
>(so I can devote more time to working on old rubbish :-) ) and thus far it's
>worked for me....
Unfortunately for my wife, it's worked well for me too, hence the
large ratio of my bought to sold :-o)
Richard
date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:15:46 +0100
author: Richard Shute
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
Hopefully Google will open a fleabay competitor. Frankly, given the
naked greed, incompetence and general "f*ck you" attitude that now
blight ebay, I can't see myself bothering with them for much longer. I'd
rather take my "junk" down the local charity shop and give it away than
line the pockets of the ebay/paypal monster.
Regarding stopping flash and other irritants/nasties, if you're running
Firefox then the "Adblock Plus" and "Noscript" plugins do a very
effective job of stamping on flash. Personally, I'd pay good money to
see the inventor of flash publicly disembowelled - the amount of 'Net
bandwidth that must be wasted by pointless flash adverts must be
colossal, bandwidth that you and I ultimately end up paying for.
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date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:07:56 -0500
author: paulwilliams
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
paulwilliams wrote:
> Hopefully Google will open a fleabay competitor. Frankly, given the
> naked greed, incompetence and general "f*ck you" attitude that now
> blight ebay, I can't see myself bothering with them for much longer. I'd
> rather take my "junk" down the local charity shop and give it away than
> line the pockets of the ebay/paypal monster.
>
> Regarding stopping flash and other irritants/nasties, if you're running
> Firefox then the "Adblock Plus" and "Noscript" plugins do a very
> effective job of stamping on flash. Personally, I'd pay good money to
> see the inventor of flash publicly disembowelled - the amount of 'Net
> bandwidth that must be wasted by pointless flash adverts must be
> colossal, bandwidth that you and I ultimately end up paying for.
>
>
>
Paul,
The inventor of flash isn't the problem, it's the people who decide
to use it in sites. Make more of them realise how unnecessary and
irritating it can be and the web experience might improve. I don't like
flash intros to sites but at least well written ones allow you to skip
it, if they don't then that's the last the site will see of me. When
looking for information I don't need to have time wasted by such frills.
The worst I've seen recently was http://www.specialisedwelding.co.uk/ .
No flash intro but the catalogues have been flash animated so it shows
the page turning when you change from one page to the next. Slick but a
waste of my time, I only tolerated it because I knew they supplied the
items I was looking for.
date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:05:15 +0100
author: David Billington
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Re: Ebay gone mildly bonkers?
> The worst I've seen recently was http://www.specialisedwelding.co.uk/ .
> No flash intro but the catalogues have been flash animated so it shows
> the page turning when you change from one page to the next. Slick but a
> waste of my time, I only tolerated it because I knew they supplied the
> items I was looking for.
I just checked that site to see what you were commenting on and also as
I need to spend quite a few quid on welding bits as the moment.
Unfortunately I will never know their prices as it is just as bad as you
said :(
date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:33:23 +0100
author: Cliff Ray namnocATgotadslcouk
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