I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need to 
dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's out.
I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a small 
volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I could use 
to do this (short of boiling off the water).
Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil 
from the water?
Martin
-- 
martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:42:45 +0100, "Martin Whybrow"
 wrote:

>I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need to 
>dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's out.
>I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a small 
>volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I could use 
>to do this (short of boiling off the water).
>Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil 
>from the water?
>Martin


Put it in an open container (I use a plastic 45 gallon water but, but anything
open  will do). Leave it, sheltered from the rain for a few months. Decant
what's left and tell the council that it's used engine oil.

If you are in a hurry, then rig up an aquarium pump and a airstone in the
bottom of the container. The water will evaporate surprisingly fast and the
anaerobic bacteria won't get too bad.


Last lot was 12 gallons that took four months to get rid of in spring weather
without additional assistance. Next lot will have a bleed off the air pump
that keeps it fresh in the grinder's coolant tank.


Mark Rand
RTFM

"Martin Whybrow"  wrote in message 
news:JnzCk.84323$bB4.66013@newsfe14.ams2...
>I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need 
>to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's 
>out.
> I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a 
> small volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I 
> could use to do this (short of boiling off the water).
> Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil 
> from the water?
> Martin
> -- 
> martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com

Pour it down the drain like eveyone else does.
Ben
>

On 25 Sep, 02:00, "Ben"  wrote:
> "Martin Whybrow"  wrote in message
>
> news:JnzCk.84323$bB4.66013@newsfe14.ams2...
>
> >I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need
> >to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's
> >out.
> > I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a
> > small volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I
> > could use to do this (short of boiling off the water).
> > Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil
> > from the water?
> > Martin
> > --
> > martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com
>
> Pour it down the drain like eveyone else does.
> Ben
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

By pure accident, I left a can of lager in the deep freeze( once)
Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol.
So why not freeze the cutting fluid and pour off the unfrozen oil as a
small amount?

Hint- do your alcohol separation- AFTER the cutting oil lark, please.

Hic

Norm

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674
 wrote:

>So why not freeze the cutting fluid ...

Because it would stink out the freezer? Not sure that it would be any
good for keeping edible substances after that...but if you are into
drinking the "distillate" from frozen beer, then anything is possible
<G>

Regards,
Tony

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674
 wrote:

>Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol.

The unfortunate part of the technique is that it also concentrates the
flavourings, colourings, other hydrocarbons, etc. etc. in with the
alcohol, so while it is high in alcohol it is also very high in all
the other things that conspire to fry your brain. So my guess is that
it would be not so much "hic" as "sick"...

Regards,
Tony

.Now Tony tells me. But I was in Villa Nova de Gaia which is rather
like Gateshead to Newcastle and what I recall of the port process was
that they were doing something similar to my suggestion with freezing.

As there was sampling involved, I am still somewhat hazy of what
happened later.
I merely suggested all this in the interest of science being of an
absinthian(Sp?) nature.

Ah well?

ravensworth2674 wrote:
> ..Now Tony tells me. But I was in Villa Nova de Gaia which is rather
> like Gateshead to Newcastle and what I recall of the port process was
> that they were doing something similar to my suggestion with freezing.
> 
> As there was sampling involved, I am still somewhat hazy of what
> happened later.
> I merely suggested all this in the interest of science being of an
> absinthian(Sp?) nature.
> 
> Ah 

The freezing technique is apparently in widespread use in Alaska, where 
freezing is cheap, and to a lesser extent in some other parts of the 
Northern US and Canada as well.

However if you really want a killer headache, try putting scrumpy in a 
freezer.


No, I didn't say that,

-- Peter Fairbrother

Tony Jeffree wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674
>  wrote:
> 
>> Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol.
> 
> The unfortunate part of the technique is that it also concentrates the
> flavourings, colourings, other hydrocarbons, etc. etc. in with the
> alcohol, so while it is high in alcohol it is also very high in all
> the other things that conspire to fry your brain. So my guess is that
> it would be not so much "hic" as "sick"...

Indeed, but - you get the same amount of flavourings, colourings, other 
hydrocarbons, etc. etc. if you drink it straight.

Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> Tony Jeffree wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol.
>>
>> The unfortunate part of the technique is that it also concentrates the
>> flavourings, colourings, other hydrocarbons, etc. etc. in with the
>> alcohol, so while it is high in alcohol it is also very high in all
>> the other things that conspire to fry your brain. So my guess is that
>> it would be not so much "hic" as "sick"...
> 
> Indeed, but - you get the same amount of flavourings, colourings, other 
> hydrocarbons, etc. etc. if you drink it straight.


Apropos nothing much, I'm a single malt Scotch man, blended malt if ever 
  I can afford it. Lived in Ireland for a bit, and appreciate the poteen 
as well, some of which is hoarded and matured and lovely, but ...

There is a tale that the Irish are, well to put it bluntly, thick (or 
perhaps stoned) because of the peat smoke from the open fires. This may 
apply to a lesser extent to the Scots as well (I am a Scot).

However, the magic smoke from the peat, when distilled into fine Scotch 
whisky, seems to have a slightly different effect - the inexperienced 
may want to fight, but the experienced grow. Or glow.


I have wondered whether this might be why Ireland is called the land of 
ire (anger), but      I don't know the chemistry


   and don't get me talking about salads, the opioids in them, and the 
English rich


-- Peter Fairbrother

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:27:38 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674
 wrote:

>...and what I recall of the port process was
>that they were doing something similar to my suggestion with freezing.

Er...not even close...Port is a wine, fermented in the usual way, that
is then fortified by adding "grape spirit" or sometimes brandy -
around 70% alcohol distileld from fermented grapes in the conventional
way (heat it up, pass the vapour through some kind of fractionating
column, select the fraction that you want to keep). If the distiller
knows his job, the fraction that is retained is pretty much pure
Ethanol.


Regards,
Tony

..
Just been watching a repeat( oh yes) of Have I got News For You on
Dave and John Prescott's reports on Hydrocardigans.
Another case of pulling the wool over the rest of us?

On 25 Sep, 21:54, ravensworth2674 
wrote:
> ..
> Just been watching a repeat( oh yes) of Have I got News For You on
> Dave and John Prescott's reports on Hydrocardigans.
> Another case of pulling the wool over the rest of us?

Oddly, Tony you missed the pint -point.
It was found that leaving port in freezing conditions in Sweden
improved the stuff.
Well, that was what the Portugeyers claimed. Frankly, I cannot imagine
how any booze would be left unconsumed in Sweden. Again, they bring
the booze down the Douro in boats and the boatmen are allowed to drink
as much as they wish but!!!!! The quantity at the end ie in Villa Nova
de whatsit is exactly the same as when they started! Funny, eh?

So onto sherry- the unfortified stuff. Oh, yes- it is still sold. I am
a Spanish Don and I have escrituras- but I am getting better slowly! I
also live in a place which was once occupied by a one eyed deaf Arab
who abducted a local Spanish maiden and they lived quite happily on a
sea cliff until it snowed.But that is another story! Surprisingly,
they are now growing grapes again quite near to where Lord Nelson
bought a villa after he lost an arm and an eye in the Battle of the
Nile. The purchase was on the proceeds of his holiday insurance
claim.And apparently when the Brits buried him he was still pickled.

Life in Peninsular is never quite what the Brits with their Kiss Me
Quick hats and furry plastic donkeys under their tatooed arms imagine.

Buenos noches

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:44:32 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674
 wrote:

>Oddly, Tony you missed the pint -point.
>It was found that leaving port in freezing conditions in Sweden
>improved the stuff.

Not surprising, as that point was not in your message, either to get
or to miss. If you want someone to "get" something in a message it
often helps to write it down, I find, rather than trusting their
psychic ability.

Perhaps if you wrote just a little more obscurely we could recognize
it was just random scribbling and not try to make sense of your posts
at all...

Regards,
Tony

On 26 Sep, 11:28, Tony Jeffree  wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:44:32 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674
>
>  wrote:
> >Oddly, Tony you missed the pint -point.
> >It was found that leaving port in freezing conditions in Sweden
> >improved the stuff.
>
> Not surprising, as that point was not in your message, either to get
> or to miss. If you want someone to "get" something in a message it
> often helps to write it down, I find, rather than trusting their
> psychic ability.
>
> Perhaps if you wrote just a little more obscurely we could recognize
> it was just random scribbling and not try to make sense of your posts
> at all...
>
> Regards,
> Tony


Don't be a spoil sport Tony, how else could we go from getting rid of
4 gallons of smelly coolant to "drinking frozen stuff". Such mad
adventures are rare in today's boring H&S PC world - thankfully.

Regards

Keith

.To be boring, the first cup of coffee should have suggested one
possible answer.
In all probability it came from something called AFD or Accelerated
freeze drying. Hence the oblique references to Alaska and Sweden. I
avoided reference to Antarctica as we all know that it is the driest
desert in the World. We do, don't we?
Oh, well never mind.

So, I know that oil and water do not mix. I hoped that it was all so
patently obviously that a good romp could be had by all
Ah, well?

On or around Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:42:45 +0100, "Martin Whybrow"
 enlightened us thusly:

>I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need to 
>dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's out.
>I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a small 
>volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I could use 
>to do this (short of boiling off the water).
>Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil 
>from the water?
>Martin

My lathe manages to dispose of it all by itself, damned if I know where
though - it doesn't, for example, sit in a puddle of the stuff.
-- 
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In article ,  
 "Ben"   in uk.rec.models.engineering wrote:

>
>"Martin Whybrow"  wrote in message 
>news:JnzCk.84323$bB4.66013@newsfe14.ams2...
>>I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need 
>>to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's 
>>out.
>> I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a 
>> small volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I 
>> could use to do this (short of boiling off the water).
>> Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil 
>> from the water?
>> Martin
>> -- 
>> martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com
>
>Pour it down the drain like eveyone else does.

I have an infinite capacity ash tray in the van for such jobs.  Park
in the Town Hall car park on a cold, dark, wet, winter's night.  If
they won't take a few 25l drums of what is obviously domestic waste
produced in my workshop then the buggers can do it the hard way.

Regards,

David P.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:53:45 +0100, David Powell 
wrote:

>In article ,  
> "Ben"   in uk.rec.models.engineering wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin Whybrow"  wrote in message 
>>news:JnzCk.84323$bB4.66013@newsfe14.ams2...
>>>I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need 
>>>to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's 
>>>out.
>>> I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a 
>>> small volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I 
>>> could use to do this (short of boiling off the water).
>>> Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil 
>>> from the water?
>>> Martin
>>> -- 
>>> martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com
>>
>>Pour it down the drain like eveyone else does.
>
>I have an infinite capacity ash tray in the van for such jobs.  Park
>in the Town Hall car park on a cold, dark, wet, winter's night.  If
>they won't take a few 25l drums of what is obviously domestic waste
>produced in my workshop then the buggers can do it the hard way.
>
>Regards,
>
>David P.


On a very serious note:- fines for businesses polluting waterways with oil run
at £25,000 per event DAMHIKT! (The oil didn't get as far as the cooling ponds,
but got far too close for comfort)


Mark Rand
RTFM

Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings
and dispose of it bagged at your local skips.

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501
 wrote:

>Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings
>and dispose of it bagged at your local skips.

Cat litter would do the trick.

Regards,
Tony

"Tony Jeffree"  wrote in message 
news:ja8rf45c7vin9qs78aaahpehabrar789pr@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501
>  wrote:
>
>>Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings
>>and dispose of it bagged at your local skips.
>
> Cat litter would do the trick.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
I'll have a play and see how much a bag of Tesco's el-cheapo cat litter 
absorbs. Thanks for the suggestion.
Martin
-- 
martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com

On 21 Oct, 10:31, Tony Jeffree  wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501
>
>  wrote:
> >Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings
> >and dispose of it bagged at your local skips.
>
> Cat litter would do the trick.
>
> Regards,
> Tony

But make sure the cat litter is unused.

1501 wrote:
> On 21 Oct, 10:31, Tony Jeffree  wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501
>>
>>  wrote:
>>> Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings
>>> and dispose of it bagged at your local skips.

>> Cat litter would do the trick.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony
> 
> But make sure the cat litter is unused.

Why so?

Does catpiss and old coolant somehow form perhaps an especially 
dangerous, explosive or toxic mixture, more so than the sum of its 
already-noxious parts?

If so, how do we make the extra dangerous stuff??

We want to know.


-- Peter Fairbrother

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:43:52 +0100, Peter Fairbrother
 wrote:

>>> Cat litter would do the trick.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tony
>> 
>> But make sure the cat litter is unused.
>
>Why so?
>
>Does catpiss and old coolant somehow form perhaps an especially 
>dangerous, explosive or toxic mixture, more so than the sum of its 
>already-noxious parts?
>
>If so, how do we make the extra dangerous stuff??
>
>We want to know.

Taking the piss by any chance? 

Regards,
Tony

On 24 Oct, 23:43, Peter Fairbrother  wrote:
> 1501 wrote:
> > On 21 Oct, 10:31, Tony Jeffree  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501
>
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings
> >>> and dispose of it bagged at your local skips.
> >> Cat litter would do the trick.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tony
>
> > But make sure the cat litter is unused.
>
> Why so?
>
> Does catpiss and old coolant somehow form perhaps an especially
> dangerous, explosive or toxic mixture, more so than the sum of its
> already-noxious parts?
>
> If so, how do we make the extra dangerous stuff??
>
> We want to know.
>
> -- Peter Fairbrother

Number one or even number two mixed with stale coolant is going to be
a pretty nasty combination either way.

On 24 Oct, 22:43, Peter Fairbrother  wrote:
> 1501 wrote:
> > On 21 Oct, 10:31, Tony Jeffree  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501
>
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings
> >>> and dispose of it bagged at your local skips.
> >> Cat litter would do the trick.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tony
>
> > But make sure the cat litter is unused.
>
> Why so?
>
> Does catpiss and old coolant somehow form perhaps an especially
> dangerous, explosive or toxic mixture, more so than the sum of its
> already-noxious parts?
>
> If so, how do we make the extra dangerous stuff??
>
> We want to know.
>
> -- Peter Fairbrother

It's probably more toxic if the cat litter contains some number 2s as
well.

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:39:42 -0700 (PDT), 1501
 wrote:

>> > But make sure the cat litter is unused.
>>
>> Why so?
>>
>> Does catpiss and old coolant somehow form perhaps an especially
>> dangerous, explosive or toxic mixture, more so than the sum of its
>> already-noxious parts?
>>
>> If so, how do we make the extra dangerous stuff??
>>
>> We want to know.
>>
>> -- Peter Fairbrother
>
>It's probably more toxic if the cat litter contains some number 2s as
>well.

Crap.

Regards,
Tony