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date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:42:45 +0100,    group: uk.rec.models.engineering        back       
Elliot boring head problem   
I'm getting ready to do a boring job on the mill and I am trying to set up 
my boring head, Elliot 1/2 to 12" type, and the damn thing appears to be 
seized up. I've removed the large grub screw from the side that would appear 
to lock the slide and I've removed the large diameter 'plug' that threads 
into the slide to retain the boring bar but I can't see how to disassemble 
it further; it's been soaking in penetrating fluid for 2 days but it's still 
stuck; the adjuster turns about 0.008" on its scale but then it goes tight 
and the slide doesn't move.
The design is similar to the Excel one that G&M have at the moment 
http://www.gandmtools.co.uk/cat_leaf.php?id=4881, it doesn't have dovetails 
but instead it has a cylinder that slides within the head.
If anyone knows how do dismantle this or, better still, has a copy of the 
manual, I'd be most grateful.
TIA, Martin.
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martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com
date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:42:45 +0100   author:   Martin Whybrow

Re: Elliot boring head problem   
"Martin Whybrow"  wrote in message 
news:2DBuk.191237$LU4.77626@newsfe24.ams2...
> I'm getting ready to do a boring job on the mill and I am trying to set up 
> my boring head, Elliot 1/2 to 12" type, and the damn thing appears to be 
> seized up. I've removed the large grub screw from the side that would 
> appear to lock the slide and I've removed the large diameter 'plug' that 
> threads into the slide to retain the boring bar but I can't see how to 
> disassemble it further; it's been soaking in penetrating fluid for 2 days 
> but it's still stuck; the adjuster turns about 0.008" on its scale but 
> then it goes tight and the slide doesn't move.
> The design is similar to the Excel one that G&M have at the moment 
> http://www.gandmtools.co.uk/cat_leaf.php?id=4881, it doesn't have 
> dovetails but instead it has a cylinder that slides within the head.
> If anyone knows how do dismantle this or, better still, has a copy of the 
> manual, I'd be most grateful.
> TIA, Martin.
>
>There's an identical head on ebay except it's branded Excel: 
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Excel-Model-B-Adjustable-boring-head_W0QQitemZ190244425550QQihZ009QQcategoryZ12584QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262 
>if that rings any bells.
Martin
-- 
martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com
date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:00:17 +0100   author:   Martin Whybrow

Re: Elliot boring head problem   
"Martin Whybrow"  wrote in message 
news:2DBuk.191237$LU4.77626@newsfe24.ams2...
> I'm getting ready to do a boring job on the mill and I am trying to set up 
> my boring head, Elliot 1/2 to 12" type, and the damn thing appears to be 
> seized up. I've removed the large grub screw from the side that would 
> appear to lock the slide and I've removed the large diameter 'plug' that 
> threads into the slide to retain the boring bar but I can't see how to 
> disassemble it further; it's been soaking in penetrating fluid for 2 days 
> but it's still stuck; the adjuster turns about 0.008" on its scale but 
> then it goes tight and the slide doesn't move.
> The design is similar to the Excel one that G&M have at the moment 
> http://www.gandmtools.co.uk/cat_leaf.php?id=4881, it doesn't have 
> dovetails but instead it has a cylinder that slides within the head.
> If anyone knows how do dismantle this or, better still, has a copy of the 
> manual, I'd be most grateful.
> TIA, Martin.
>
Problem solved, almost! I tapped the protruding end of the slide with a 
copper mallet whilst holding the head in my hand so as not to apply to much 
force, the slide started to move until it was flush with the head; I then 
clamped a 5/8" dia rod in one of the tool positions and tapped that the 
opposite way, turning the adjuster as it moved, until it was free enough to 
move on the adjuster. Once it reached the end of travel, the adjuster was 
free to turn as it had come out of the end of the slide; I continued tapping 
until the slide came completely out. Theres nothing to hold the slide in, 
just a pad on one side running in a shallow slot to stop the slide from 
rotating.
Once it was apart, I could see signs of rust staining on the slide and in 
the bore, a little odd as the exterior was rust free, so I would imagine 
coolant had got inside and not escaped. I'll polish the slide and the bore 
with Autosol and reassemble it tomorrow.
Martin
-- 
martin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com
date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:02:24 +0100   author:   Martin Whybrow

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