Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.

I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All 
works just fine.

Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to 
work out some of the details.

FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the 
start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but 
as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to 
add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.

Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box 
for this inverter?

Thanks

Pete Harrison

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:53:21 +0100, Peter Harrison
 wrote:

>Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.
>
>I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All 
>works just fine.
>
>Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to 
>work out some of the details.
>
>FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the 
>start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but 
>as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to 
>add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.
>
>Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box 
>for this inverter?
>
>Thanks
>
>Pete Harrison
Suggest you take a look at the programming and connection options in
the manual. You need to look for "three wire control". Programmed in
this way the system should run as I am sure you expect.

--

Richard

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Richard Edwards wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:53:21 +0100, Peter Harrison
>  wrote:
> 
>> Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.
>>
>> I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All 
>> works just fine.
>>
>> Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to 
>> work out some of the details.
>>
>> FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the 
>> start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but 
>> as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to 
>> add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.
>>
>> Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box 
>> for this inverter?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pete Harrison
> Suggest you take a look at the programming and connection options in
> the manual. You need to look for "three wire control". Programmed in
> this way the system should run as I am sure you expect.
> 
> --
> 
> Richard
> 
> Email address is valid but remove burrs before sending!


I have had a good search of the manual and can only find one fleeting 
reference to 3-wire control. After reading it I am no wiser. It says 
that one of the control inputs can be configured as a HOLD function. I 
quote:

--8<----
Select 3-wire operation command--(HLD) (Function code data = 6)
Digital input signal (HLD) may self-hold the forward (FWD)/reverse (REV) 
run commands given at the external signal input terminals to enable 
3-wire inverter operation.
Shorting the circuit between the (HLD)-assigned terminal and terminal 
[CM] will self-hold the (FWD) or (REV) command. Opening the circuit will 
release the hold.
--8<----

Searching through Google, now I know the right term, has not really 
helped. There is stuff using relays. (Who on earth decided to use a 
capacitor symbol for relay contacts?).

I found your post here on June 5th and what you describe is exactly what 
I want.

Can you elaborate on your wiring setup?

Pete Harrison

On 3 Aug, 15:53, Peter Harrison  wrote:
> Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.
>
> I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All
> works just fine.
>
> Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to
> work out some of the details.
>
> FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the
> start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but
> as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to
> add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.
>
> Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box
> for this inverter?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete Harrison

Peter,
I have the wiring and setup for most Cub drives for 3 wire.
Do you have a link to the manual as I can't find a CUB3A listed

Look at this page and let me know which one it is and I can post
wiring and setup.

http://www.imopc.com/document_library.asp?cat=27&page=2

John S.

John S wrote:
> On 3 Aug, 15:53, Peter Harrison  wrote:
>> Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.
>>
>> I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All
>> works just fine.
>>
>> Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to
>> work out some of the details.
>>
>> FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the
>> start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but
>> as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to
>> add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.
>>
>> Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box
>> for this inverter?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pete Harrison
> 
> Peter,
> I have the wiring and setup for most Cub drives for 3 wire.
> Do you have a link to the manual as I can't find a CUB3A listed
> 
> Look at this page and let me know which one it is and I can post
> wiring and setup.
> 
> http://www.imopc.com/document_library.asp?cat=27&page=2
> 
> John S.

It is the first one on the list:

http://www.imopc.com/download/874/jaguar-drive-cub-mini-manual.html

This manual is identical to the one that came with the inverter.

Pete Harrison

On 4 Aug, 08:05, Peter Harrison  wrote:
> John S wrote:
> > On 3 Aug, 15:53, Peter Harrison  wrote:
> >> Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.
>
> >> I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All
> >> works just fine.
>
> >> Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to
> >> work out some of the details.
>
> >> FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the
> >> start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but
> >> as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to
> >> add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.
>
> >> Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box
> >> for this inverter?
>
> >> Thanks
>
> >> Pete Harrison
>
> > Peter,
> > I have the wiring and setup for most Cub drives for 3 wire.
> > Do you have a link to the manual as I can't find a CUB3A listed
>
> > Look at this page and let me know which one it is and I can post
> > wiring and setup.
>
> >http://www.imopc.com/document_library.asp?cat=27&page=2
>
> > John S.
>
> It is the first one on the list:
>
> http://www.imopc.com/download/874/jaguar-drive-cub-mini-manual.html
>
> This manual is identical to the one that came with the inverter.
>
> Pete Harrison

OK will dig the sheets out later, have to go deliver a machine today
but it's not a problem.

John S.

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:17:55 +0100, Peter Harrison
 wrote:

>Richard Edwards wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:53:21 +0100, Peter Harrison
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.
>>>
>>> I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All 
>>> works just fine.
>>>
>>> Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to 
>>> work out some of the details.
>>>
>>> FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the 
>>> start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but 
>>> as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to 
>>> add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.
>>>
>>> Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box 
>>> for this inverter?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Pete Harrison
>> Suggest you take a look at the programming and connection options in
>> the manual. You need to look for "three wire control". Programmed in
>> this way the system should run as I am sure you expect.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Email address is valid but remove burrs before sending!
>
>
>I have had a good search of the manual and can only find one fleeting 
>reference to 3-wire control. After reading it I am no wiser. It says 
>that one of the control inputs can be configured as a HOLD function. I 
>quote:
>
>--8<----
>Select 3-wire operation command--(HLD) (Function code data = 6)
>Digital input signal (HLD) may self-hold the forward (FWD)/reverse (REV) 
>run commands given at the external signal input terminals to enable 
>3-wire inverter operation.
>Shorting the circuit between the (HLD)-assigned terminal and terminal 
>[CM] will self-hold the (FWD) or (REV) command. Opening the circuit will 
>release the hold.
>--8<----
>
>Searching through Google, now I know the right term, has not really 
>helped. There is stuff using relays. (Who on earth decided to use a 
>capacitor symbol for relay contacts?).
>
>I found your post here on June 5th and what you describe is exactly what 
>I want.
>
>Can you elaborate on your wiring setup?
>
>Pete Harrison
I have sent a mail direct with circuits, however having now read the
manual (what a pain in the A****!) you will need to do the following

1 Set the jumper to "Source"
2 Assign 1006 to E01 (this sets the X1 terminal as the HLD for three
wire)
3 Set F02 to 1 (Sets external control with no action from keypad
buttons)
4 Using my circuit rename the connections as follows 
My Terminal	Cub Terminal
   STOP		    X1
   START	    FWD
  REVERSE	    REV
  COMMON	    PLC

Thats how I read it from the PDF but may well be incorrect somewhere. 
Assuming that I have not missed something from a quick read, I would
lash up the control with fwd rev and stop buttons first to prove it
out before going to my circuit (assuming my option is what you want).
You do not even need buttons link PLC to X1 with a short flying wire
you can dab to Fwd or Rev Disconnect X1 to stop.


Best viewed in monotext
Quick lashup

PLC-----|/|--------| |----FWD
               |
               |
               ----| |----REV
               |
               |
               -----------X1

 |/| = Normally closed momentary contact (Stop button)
 | | = Normally open momentary contact

Ok they look like capacitors but you do better in ASCII art ;-)

Suggest that you actually set motor direction by swapping 2 motor
wires if FWD connection runs reverse for your application.
Best of luck

 
--

Richard

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On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:41:38 +0100, Richard Edwards
 wrote:

Something that he is still not sure about.


I am still not happy with the E01 setting, I have read and reread but
cannot be sure of what is being said. If a setting of 1006 allows a
continual run with a dab on FWD whilst X1 is connected to to PLC then
that is what you want. If dabbing FWD with no connection to X! causes
a run and a stop when X! connected to PLC then set E01 to 6.

IMHO not the best manual!

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Richard

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Richard Edwards wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:41:38 +0100, Richard Edwards
>  wrote:
> 
> Something that he is still not sure about.
> 
> 
> I am still not happy with the E01 setting, I have read and reread but
> cannot be sure of what is being said. If a setting of 1006 allows a
> continual run with a dab on FWD whilst X1 is connected to to PLC then
> that is what you want. If dabbing FWD with no connection to X! causes
> a run and a stop when X! connected to PLC then set E01 to 6.
> 
> IMHO not the best manual!
> 
> --
> 
> Richard
> 
> Email address is valid but remove burrs before sending!

I shall await John's cntribution and then give them both a try tonught.

I don't have a n/c switch at the moment so I will have to order one.

Thanks very much for taking the time to look at the manual. Glad it is 
not just me that finds it confusing.

Pete

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:16:41 +0100, Peter Harrison
 wrote:

>Richard Edwards wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:41:38 +0100, Richard Edwards
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Something that he is still not sure about.
>> 
>> 
>> I am still not happy with the E01 setting, I have read and reread but
>> cannot be sure of what is being said. If a setting of 1006 allows a
>> continual run with a dab on FWD whilst X1 is connected to to PLC then
>> that is what you want. If dabbing FWD with no connection to X! causes
>> a run and a stop when X! connected to PLC then set E01 to 6.
>> 
>> IMHO not the best manual!
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Email address is valid but remove burrs before sending!
>
>I shall await John's cntribution and then give them both a try tonught.
>
>I don't have a n/c switch at the moment so I will have to order one.
>
>Thanks very much for taking the time to look at the manual. Glad it is 
>not just me that finds it confusing.
>
>Pete
Ok good luck, hope to hear a succesful outcome.
BTW for info the three position switch that I used was RS 219-5778
plus the start and stop buttons and contacts from the same range.

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Richard

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I'll go with what Richard says except you enter 6 for the value E1
Entering 1006 enters a negative value.

Spreadsheet is here

http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/Cub%20STV%20guide.xls

Only concern yourself with the values in the Actual Setting column
which is the ones you need to change.
F03, F15 and F16 you may have to change to suit your speed range. This
is a crib sheet for an actual machine.

The values P02, P03 and P14 need the values taking off the motor plate
and entering. P14 isn't critical. P03 acts as the thermal overload.

John S.

John S wrote:
> I'll go with what Richard says except you enter 6 for the value E1
> Entering 1006 enters a negative value.
> 
> Spreadsheet is here
> 
> http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/Cub%20STV%20guide.xls
> 
> Only concern yourself with the values in the Actual Setting column
> which is the ones you need to change.
> F03, F15 and F16 you may have to change to suit your speed range. This
> is a crib sheet for an actual machine.
> 
> The values P02, P03 and P14 need the values taking off the motor plate
> and entering. P14 isn't critical. P03 acts as the thermal overload.
> 
> John S.
> 

Many thanks.

I will order some buttons and give it a go. Once it is sorted, I shall 
put up a description of exactly what was needed.

Pete Harrison

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:53:21 +0100, Peter Harrison
 wrote:

>Some time back, I bought a Jaguar Cub inverter. Model CUB3A.
>
>I have that connected up to drive a three phase motor on my lathe. All 
>works just fine.
>
>Now I want to make an external control box for it but I can't seem to 
>work out some of the details.
>
>FWD/REV and speed are simple enough but I am not sure how to get the 
>start/stop connected. There is a stop input available on termnal X2 but 
>as soon as that is released, the motor will start again. I would like to 
>add an emergency stop function that latches on, like an NVR switch.
>
>Has anyone got, or can point me to, wiring details for an external box 
>for this inverter?
>
>Thanks
>
>Pete Harrison
Peter
I have seen no further comment from you! Did you get this going or has
life got in the way!

--

Richard

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