I have a Myford universal vertical slide ,the old type ,with the fixed 
micrometer dial .
I was wondering if there is a conversion that someone has done to make 
the dial adjustable like on the cross and top slides of the S7.
I haven't taken a look to see if it can be done easily yet ,the slide is 
packed away ,but I will be using it some time in the future.
Just thought that I woulkd take the easy way out first .

Or is the only option a replacement Myford screw and micrometer dial ?


Thanks.
Kev.
-- 
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."

bluey69@west.net.com.au

In message , "Kevin(Bluey)" 
 writes
>I have a Myford universal vertical slide ,the old type ,with the fixed 
>micrometer dial .
>I was wondering if there is a conversion that someone has done to make 
>the dial adjustable like on the cross and top slides of the S7.
>I haven't taken a look to see if it can be done easily yet ,the slide 
>is packed away ,but I will be using it some time in the future.
>Just thought that I woulkd take the easy way out first .
>
>Or is the only option a replacement Myford screw and micrometer dial ?
>

You shouldn't need a new screw - the adjustable dials are 
interchangeable.

The dials are available as spare parts from Myfords.


Regards,

-- 
Pat Martindale

Hang on, Bluey!

The Myford S7 might NOT fit.
Some time back, we did a thing about the ML7 and the Super7 slides and
they are not interchangeable- as such. Mine is a Zyto one( but looks
identical to the ordinary plain Myford one.) so I cannot check.

You have two options and that is to measure the distances in the holes
in the relevant castings or to make  a new one using one of the
suggested ines in Model Engineers Workshop Manual.

Somebody might do you a measuring job.
Meantime
Cheers

Norman

On 29 Jun, 20:41, ravensworth2674 
wrote:
> Hang on, Bluey!
>
> The Myford S7 might NOT fit.
> Some time back, we did a thing about the ML7 and the Super7 slides and
> they are not interchangeable- as such. Mine is a Zyto one( but looks
> identical to the ordinary plain Myford one.) so I cannot check.
>
> You have two options and that is to measure the distances in the holes
> in the relevant castings or to make  a new one using one of the
> suggested ines in Model Engineers Workshop Manual.
>
> Somebody might do you a measuring job.
> Meantime
> Cheers
>
> Norman



Norman, never managed to get up to Newcastle on Friday, problems with
a big broken motor shaft.

Trip now arranged for Wednesday or Thursday this week, you in then ?

John S.

ravensworth2674 wrote:
> Hang on, Bluey!
> 
> The Myford S7 might NOT fit.
> Some time back, we did a thing about the ML7 and the Super7 slides and
> they are not interchangeable- as such. Mine is a Zyto one( but looks
> identical to the ordinary plain Myford one.) so I cannot check.
> 
> You have two options and that is to measure the distances in the holes
> in the relevant castings or to make  a new one using one of the
> suggested ines in Model Engineers Workshop Manual.
> 
> Somebody might do you a measuring job.
> Meantime
> Cheers
> 
> 


Thanks for the replies,
But I think I may have confused some ,
I am talking about the vertical milling slide that bolts onto the cross 
slide .The micrometer dial is fixed and cannot be set back to zero like 
the cross and top slide dials with out winding the slide up or down.
Or am I reading you correctly that the vertical milling slide for the 
ML& and the Super7 different?

I read  on Chris Heapy's old website that he modified his ,but he 
dosen't say how the modification was done .

My Super 7 is the non cross slide power feed model ,and came with a lot 
of genuine Myford accessories ,millimg slide and vice , collets and 
chuck , dividing attachment etc.


I am a Fitter and Turner by trade ,but have been out of the trade for 
many years ,I got side lined into diesel engines and gas turbines and 
have done only basic turning for about 20 years .
I have re-learn all the forgotten stuff .

Thanks.

-- 
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."

bluey69@west.net.com.au

On 30-Jun-2008, "Kevin(Bluey)"  wrote:



> Thanks for the replies,
> But I think I may have confused some ,
> I am talking about the vertical milling slide that bolts onto the cross
> slide .The micrometer dial is fixed and cannot be set back to zero like
> the cross and top slide dials with out winding the slide up or down.
> Or am I reading you correctly that the vertical milling slide for the
> ML& and the Super7 different?
>

Kevin (Bluey)

I am not surprised that you got surprised, there have been several red herrings raised
in the replies.

The vertical slides came with the fixed "Mazak" (sh*it metal) dials which are essentially
a 1/4 BSF nut with
a dial integral with it. This has been replaced by a steel equivalent, but more
importantly a Re-Settable Micrometer
Dial Myford N0. 20/252 is now offered as a slightly more expensive alternative. The Myford
WEB site quotes:
Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.

These dials were also use on the ML7 & ML7 cross/top slides, I have fitted one to my
vertical slide - it is 2 minute
job!

http://www.myford.com/index.htm

http://www.myford.com/pricelist/ML7%20Spare%20Parts.pdf
(Bottom of page 5)

Regards
Brian

On 29-Jun-2008, ravensworth2674  wrote:

> Some time back, we did a thing about the ML7 and the Super7 slides and
> they are not interchangeable- as such. Mine is a Zyto one( but looks
> identical to the ordinary plain Myford one.) so I cannot check.

Norman

The Zyto vertical slide was indeed a Myford one but with the Tee bolt heads
faced off somewhat to accommodate Tee slots in the less substantial cross slide.

Regards
Brian

On Jun 30, 8:35 am, br...@brian-james.demon.co.uk wrote:
> On 29-Jun-2008, ravensworth2674  wrote:
>
> > Some time back, we did a thing about the ML7 and the Super7 slides and
> > they are not interchangeable- as such. Mine is a Zyto one( but looks
> > identical to the ordinary plain Myford one.) so I cannot check.
>
> Norman
>
> The Zyto vertical slide was indeed a Myford one but with the Tee bolt heads
> faced off somewhat to accommodate Tee slots in the less substantial cross slide.
>
> Regards
> Brian

Thanks and I am simply mentioning the possible confusion- and cost
which could arise. The castings on the ML7 and the Super 7 for the
feed screws are definitely different. I have both machines and the
Zyto was mentioned to say that I couldn't say which fitted what.
( Meanwhile- back at the ranch)

Norman

brian@brian-james.demon.co.uk wrote:
> On 30-Jun-2008, "Kevin(Bluey)"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kevin (Bluey)
> 
> I am not surprised that you got surprised, there have been several red herrings raised
> in the replies.
> 
> The vertical slides came with the fixed "Mazak" (sh*it metal) dials which are essentially
> a 1/4 BSF nut with
> a dial integral with it. This has been replaced by a steel equivalent, but more
> importantly a Re-Settable Micrometer
> Dial Myford N0. 20/252 is now offered as a slightly more expensive alternative. The Myford
> WEB site quotes:
> Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.
> 
> These dials were also use on the ML7 & ML7 cross/top slides, I have fitted one to my
> vertical slide - it is 2 minute
> job!
> 
> http://www.myford.com/index.htm
> 
> http://www.myford.com/pricelist/ML7%20Spare%20Parts.pdf
> (Bottom of page 5)
> 
> Regards
> Brian

Brian ,
Thanks for clarifying the info .
It's the "mazak" dial that I have on my slide .
I did check the Myford website but failed to find the correct part .
I will definetly replace it with the resettable job.
-- 
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."

bluey69@west.net.com.au

In message 
, 
ravensworth2674  writes
>Hang on, Bluey!
>
>The Myford S7 might NOT fit.

I had the fixed dial on my Myford vert slide.

I changed it for a Myford adjustable dial as fitted to the super 7.

They do fit.. the fixed and adjustable dials are interchangeable whether 
they are to be used on the cross / topslide or the vertical slide.


Regards,
-- 
Pat Martindale

On Jun 30, 6:55 pm, Pat Martindale  wrote:
> In message
> ,
> ravensworth2674  writes
>
> >Hang on, Bluey!
>
> >The Myford S7 might NOT fit.
>
> I had the fixed dial on my Myford vert slide.
>
> I changed it for a Myford adjustable dial as fitted to the super 7.
>
> They do fit.. the fixed and adjustable dials are interchangeable whether
> they are to be used on the cross / topslide or the vertical slide.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Pat Martindale

If the replacement involves the 'front casting' it IS different. I
recall a bit of difficulty in the older S7 assemblies listed by GHT.
They were glued- or so he said. Hence words of caution earlier

Again, Radford had a go at changing things on his S7  and Cleeve did
on his ML7

Chacun a son gout

Norm

Kevin(Bluey) wrote:
> brian@brian-james.demon.co.uk wrote:
>> On 30-Jun-2008, "Kevin(Bluey)"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Kevin (Bluey)
>>
>> I am not surprised that you got surprised, there have been several red 
>> herrings raised
>> in the replies.
>>
>> The vertical slides came with the fixed "Mazak" (sh*it metal) dials 
>> which are essentially
>> a 1/4 BSF nut with
>> a dial integral with it. This has been replaced by a steel equivalent, 
>> but more
>> importantly a Re-Settable Micrometer
>> Dial Myford N0. 20/252 is now offered as a slightly more expensive 
>> alternative. The Myford
>> WEB site quotes:
>> Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.
>>
>> These dials were also use on the ML7 & ML7 cross/top slides, I have 
>> fitted one to my
>> vertical slide - it is 2 minute
>> job!
>>
>> http://www.myford.com/index.htm
>>
>> http://www.myford.com/pricelist/ML7%20Spare%20Parts.pdf
>> (Bottom of page 5)
>>
>> Regards
>> Brian
> 
> Brian ,
> Thanks for clarifying the info .
> It's the "mazak" dial that I have on my slide .
> I did check the Myford website but failed to find the correct part .
> I will definetly replace it with the resettable job.

Kevin, as you're in my part of the world, try Minitech for Myford stuff locally 
- they are the Australian agents. 
http://wic020u.server-secure.com/vs4487_secure/dept.asp?id=132
I've purchased quite a bit of stuff from them over the years for my ML7T.

-- 
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.' 
Catherine Aird

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:34:32 +0930, "Kevin(Bluey)"
 wrote:

>> Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.

Ye gods! 15 squid for a slice of steel bar threaded 1/4 BSF and marked
with a few graduations?? That is outrageous!

Regards,
Tony

On Jul 1, 8:02 am, Tony Jeffree  wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:34:32 폝, "Kevin(Bluey)"
>
>  wrote:
> >> Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.
>
> Ye gods! 15 squid for a slice of steel bar threaded 1/4 BSF and marked
> with a few graduations?? That is outrageous!
>
> Regards,
> Tony

Tony,
          I was trying somewhat futilely to point the guy to making
the bits himself.
You can't win 'em all!

Cheers

Norm

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:02:50 +0100, Tony Jeffree  wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:34:32 +0930, "Kevin(Bluey)"
> wrote:
>
>>> Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.
>
>Ye gods! 15 squid for a slice of steel bar threaded 1/4 BSF and marked
>with a few graduations?? That is outrageous!
>
>Regards,
>Tony



Feel free to try making them for less! I'd say that the price is not
unreasonable for less than several hundred at a time.


Mark Rand
RTFM

Duracell Bunny wrote:
Duracell Bunny wrote:
> Kevin(Bluey) wrote:
>> brian@brian-james.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> On 30-Jun-2008, "Kevin(Bluey)"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin (Bluey)
>>>
>>> I am not surprised that you got surprised, there have been several 
>>> red herrings raised
>>> in the replies.
>>>
>>> The vertical slides came with the fixed "Mazak" (sh*it metal) dials 
>>> which are essentially
>>> a 1/4 BSF nut with
>>> a dial integral with it. This has been replaced by a steel 
>>> equivalent, but more
>>> importantly a Re-Settable Micrometer
>>> Dial Myford N0. 20/252 is now offered as a slightly more expensive 
>>> alternative. The Myford
>>> WEB site quotes:
>>> Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.
>>>
>>> These dials were also use on the ML7 & ML7 cross/top slides, I have 
>>> fitted one to my
>>> vertical slide - it is 2 minute
>>> job!
>>>
>>> http://www.myford.com/index.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.myford.com/pricelist/ML7%20Spare%20Parts.pdf
>>> (Bottom of page 5)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Brian
>>
>> Brian ,
>> Thanks for clarifying the info .
>> It's the "mazak" dial that I have on my slide .
>> I did check the Myford website but failed to find the correct part .
>> I will definetly replace it with the resettable job.
> 
> Kevin, as you're in my part of the world, try Minitech for Myford stuff 
> locally - they are the Australian agents. 
> http://wic020u.server-secure.com/vs4487_secure/dept.asp?id=132
> I've purchased quite a bit of stuff from them over the years for my ML7T.
> 


-- 
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."

bluey69@west.net.com.au> Kevin(Bluey) wrote:
>> brian@brian-james.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> On 30-Jun-2008, "Kevin(Bluey)"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin (Bluey)
>>>
>>> I am not surprised that you got surprised, there have been several 
>>> red herrings raised
>>> in the replies.
>>>
>>> The vertical slides came with the fixed "Mazak" (sh*it metal) dials 
>>> which are essentially
>>> a 1/4 BSF nut with
>>> a dial integral with it. This has been replaced by a steel 
>>> equivalent, but more
>>> importantly a Re-Settable Micrometer
>>> Dial Myford N0. 20/252 is now offered as a slightly more expensive 
>>> alternative. The Myford
>>> WEB site quotes:
>>> Steel Dial GBPDs 15.09 and Resettable Dial GBPDs 22.88.
>>>
>>> These dials were also use on the ML7 & ML7 cross/top slides, I have 
>>> fitted one to my
>>> vertical slide - it is 2 minute
>>> job!
>>>
>>> http://www.myford.com/index.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.myford.com/pricelist/ML7%20Spare%20Parts.pdf
>>> (Bottom of page 5)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Brian
>>
>> Brian ,
>> Thanks for clarifying the info .
>> It's the "mazak" dial that I have on my slide .
>> I did check the Myford website but failed to find the correct part .
>> I will definetly replace it with the resettable job.
> 
> Kevin, as you're in my part of the world, try Minitech for Myford stuff 
> locally - they are the Australian agents. 
> http://wic020u.server-secure.com/vs4487_secure/dept.asp?id=132
> I've purchased quite a bit of stuff from them over the years for my ML7T.
> 


Thanks ,
I'm aware of Minitech ,I have bought Myford parts from them before.

-- 
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."

bluey69@west.net.com.au