I have been introducing Georgie to the yard and today was our big
day.  tacked up Pointer and off we went down the bridle path, georgie
was running at the side.  We did about 3/4 mile and then headed off
into the big field which is about 20 acres.  We walked round it and
Pointer and Georgie were just incredible.  Got to the other side and
Pointer did a wonderful canter, really collected and Georgie to my
amazement kept up.  She looked up at me and me and pointer just kept
going it was truely amazing.  Its something i have always pictured in
my head.  the field was lush green, the sun was beaming, the field was
topped off with thousands of yellow dandilion flowers and we just
cantered all the way back.  We headed back down the bridlepath,
Georgie stopped for a pit stop drink and off we set again.  Pointer
was a delight and very aware of Georgie and he never put a foot
wrong.  great!

babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
> I have been introducing Georgie to the yard and today was our big
> day.  tacked up Pointer and off we went down the bridle path, georgie
> was running at the side.  We did about 3/4 mile and then headed off
> into the big field which is about 20 acres.  We walked round it and
> Pointer and Georgie were just incredible.  Got to the other side and
> Pointer did a wonderful canter, really collected and Georgie to my
> amazement kept up.  She looked up at me and me and pointer just kept
> going it was truely amazing.  Its something i have always pictured in
> my head.  the field was lush green, the sun was beaming, the field was
> topped off with thousands of yellow dandilion flowers and we just
> cantered all the way back.  We headed back down the bridlepath,
> Georgie stopped for a pit stop drink and off we set again.  Pointer
> was a delight and very aware of Georgie and he never put a foot
> wrong.  great!

Some days just make it all worth while dont they.
Sounds like a great time was had by all. I have been wondering how your 
new dog was as I have a staffie, probably cross bred bitch and she has 
been good out riding with me too. Even my labrador is good out on a 
ride. I think as long as I am moving they dont get too distracted and 
are happy to keep up and stay close by. The lab is quite good at getting 
pheasants out of the way before I arrive so they arent flying up right 
in front of me and horse.

On 20 Apr, 00:28, Lynz <l...@extra.co.invalid> wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > I have been introducing Georgie to the yard and today was our big
> > day.  tacked up Pointer and off we went down the bridle path, georgie
> > was running at the side.  We did about 3/4 mile and then headed off
> > into the big field which is about 20 acres.  We walked round it and
> > Pointer and Georgie were just incredible.  Got to the other side and
> > Pointer did a wonderful canter, really collected and Georgie to my
> > amazement kept up.  She looked up at me and me and pointer just kept
> > going it was truely amazing.  Its something i have always pictured in
> > my head.  the field was lush green, the sun was beaming, the field was
> > topped off with thousands of yellow dandilion flowers and we just
> > cantered all the way back.  We headed back down the bridlepath,
> > Georgie stopped for a pit stop drink and off we set again.  Pointer
> > was a delight and very aware of Georgie and he never put a foot
> > wrong.  great!
>
> Some days just make it all worth while dont they.
> Sounds like a great time was had by all. I have been wondering how your
> new dog was as I have a staffie, probably cross bred bitch and she has
> been good out riding with me too. Even my labrador is good out on a
> ride. I think as long as I am moving they dont get too distracted and
> are happy to keep up and stay close by. The lab is quite good at getting
> pheasants out of the way before I arrive so they arent flying up right
> in front of me and horse.

Hi Lynz

You are totally right, if I am moving at a pace the dog concentrates
on me.  Staffies need to be occupied and I have found it very hard
work with her.  If I saw someone or something that may distract her, i
would pop Pointer in to trot and she would keep up and concentrate on
us and we managed to get by the distraction.  I did miss the one and
she shot over to the couple with their dog and took me a while to get
her back.  After that I knew I had to keep up a pace which is easy on
pointer.  for me on foot its just no way

I am well pleased, hope it was not  a fluke!

babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Lynz
>
> You are totally right, if I am moving at a pace the dog concentrates
> on me.  Staffies need to be occupied and I have found it very hard
> work with her.  If I saw someone or something that may distract her, i
> would pop Pointer in to trot and she would keep up and concentrate on
> us and we managed to get by the distraction.  I did miss the one and
> she shot over to the couple with their dog and took me a while to get
> her back.  After that I knew I had to keep up a pace which is easy on
> pointer.  for me on foot its just no way
>
> I am well pleased, hope it was not  a fluke!

You might be wise to have a lot more ground control over her before doing 
this more.
A staffie that is not in control is not wise, and with such a young dog and 
you on board means you have no control.
What works in the first ride or two, will quickly pale with her, once she 
realises she can ignore you with impunity.

Once you have the basics firmly in place, its a great way to exercise both 
and enjoy them.
But you need to have an instant and absolute recall before you make a habit 
of this.
The other danger is that you undo good ground work by not being able to 
effect an suitable response, so you are on top shouting at her, but she 
learns she can go deaf because you cannot get to her.

At less than 6 months old, she needs more work. Also beware of over running 
her at this age, she has soft bones yet.

-- 
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk

On 20 Apr, 08:04, " Jill"  wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi Lynz
>
> > You are totally right, if I am moving at a pace the dog concentrates
> > on me.  Staffies need to be occupied and I have found it very hard
> > work with her.  If I saw someone or something that may distract her, i
> > would pop Pointer in to trot and she would keep up and concentrate on
> > us and we managed to get by the distraction.  I did miss the one and
> > she shot over to the couple with their dog and took me a while to get
> > her back.  After that I knew I had to keep up a pace which is easy on
> > pointer.  for me on foot its just no way
>
> > I am well pleased, hope it was not  a fluke!
>
> You might be wise to have a lot more ground control over her before doing
> this more.
> A staffie that is not in control is not wise, and with such a young dog and
> you on board means you have no control.
> What works in the first ride or two, will quickly pale with her, once she
> realises she can ignore you with impunity.
>
> Once you have the basics firmly in place, its a great way to exercise both
> and enjoy them.
> But you need to have an instant and absolute recall before you make a habit
> of this.
> The other danger is that you undo good ground work by not being able to
> effect an suitable response, so you are on top shouting at her, but she
> learns she can go deaf because you cannot get to her.
>
> At less than 6 months old, she needs more work. Also beware of over running
> her at this age, she has soft bones yet.
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

Thanks for this Jill, can always rely on your good self to put a
downer on it.

Not sure if you are aware, I have been training  the dog since she was
10 weeks old, and yes I am well aware of the length of time she needs
due to her age.  I have exposed her to short bursts so concentration
is high rather than the distraction pups tend to adopt.  I purposely
picked a certain time of day when it was quiet so she would listen to
me.  Which worked.

Staffies have high level of energy and low level of concentration, so
its difficult.  But given the right training and short bursts, often
and reward and play it works, the length of walks are now half hour
morning and night.  Weekends slightly longer, otherwise I would end up
with a dog climbing the walls.

If she is not exposed to this she will never learn, I know my dog and
I know what works.  If I thought for one minute it would cause issues
I would not do it.

In any event, all went well, we enjoyed and thats what counts

Thanks

wrote
On 20 Apr, 08:04, " Jill"  wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi Lynz
>
> > You are totally right, if I am moving at a pace the dog concentrates
> > on me. Staffies need to be occupied and I have found it very hard
> > work with her. If I saw someone or something that may distract her, i
> > would pop Pointer in to trot and she would keep up and concentrate on
> > us and we managed to get by the distraction. I did miss the one and
> > she shot over to the couple with their dog and took me a while to get
> > her back. After that I knew I had to keep up a pace which is easy on
> > pointer. for me on foot its just no way
>
> > I am well pleased, hope it was not a fluke!
>
> You might be wise to have a lot more ground control over her before doing
> this more.
> A staffie that is not in control is not wise, and with such a young dog 
> and
> you on board means you have no control.
> What works in the first ride or two, will quickly pale with her, once she
> realises she can ignore you with impunity.
>
> Once you have the basics firmly in place, its a great way to exercise both
> and enjoy them.
> But you need to have an instant and absolute recall before you make a 
> habit
> of this.
> The other danger is that you undo good ground work by not being able to
> effect an suitable response, so you are on top shouting at her, but she
> learns she can go deaf because you cannot get to her.
>
> At less than 6 months old, she needs more work. Also beware of over 
> running
> her at this age, she has soft bones yet.
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

Thanks for this Jill, can always rely on your good self to put a
downer on it.

------------------------------------

Sorry, have to delurk and say that I think all that Jill gave you is good, 
honest advice, from someone with a wealth of dog experience.
If you choose to perceive it as a 'downer' then so be it.

On 20 Apr, 18:58, "caroline"  wrote:
>  wrote
> On 20 Apr, 08:04, " Jill"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > > Hi Lynz
>
> > > You are totally right, if I am moving at a pace the dog concentrates
> > > on me. Staffies need to be occupied and I have found it very hard
> > > work with her. If I saw someone or something that may distract her, i
> > > would pop Pointer in to trot and she would keep up and concentrate on
> > > us and we managed to get by the distraction. I did miss the one and
> > > she shot over to the couple with their dog and took me a while to get
> > > her back. After that I knew I had to keep up a pace which is easy on
> > > pointer. for me on foot its just no way
>
> > > I am well pleased, hope it was not a fluke!
>
> > You might be wise to have a lot more ground control over her before doing
> > this more.
> > A staffie that is not in control is not wise, and with such a young dog
> > and
> > you on board means you have no control.
> > What works in the first ride or two, will quickly pale with her, once she
> > realises she can ignore you with impunity.
>
> > Once you have the basics firmly in place, its a great way to exercise both
> > and enjoy them.
> > But you need to have an instant and absolute recall before you make a
> > habit
> > of this.
> > The other danger is that you undo good ground work by not being able to
> > effect an suitable response, so you are on top shouting at her, but she
> > learns she can go deaf because you cannot get to her.
>
> > At less than 6 months old, she needs more work. Also beware of over
> > running
> > her at this age, she has soft bones yet.
>
> > --
> > regards
> > Jill Bowis
>
> > Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> > Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> > Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk
>
> Thanks for this Jill, can always rely on your good self to put a
> downer on it.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Sorry, have to delurk and say that I think all that Jill gave you is good,
> honest advice, from someone with a wealth of dog experience.
> If you choose to perceive it as a 'downer' then so be it.

I do, and my post was about having a good day and what i did was part
of the training and the exposure she needs, I did not ask for advice
about training the dog, I admit for once and will blow my own trumpet
here.  I surprisingly enough do very well training my dogs that i have
owned.

I am not saying Jills advice was bad i just did not need it, was un
necessary as i am more than capable of handling the dog.  As usual it
was assumed i didnt know or fell short of knowlege, when in fact its
the opposite

hope that clears it up