Gary is riding him for the moment and we have only had one more
'Incident' when he had'nt been ridden for a few days -Gary started to
mount him and he bucked while Gary's leg was half-way over - then
continued. he with the velcro bum cocked his leg over and gave him a
good wack with the riding crop which resulted in Cody stopping,
thinking about it then thinking better of it. He was fantastic the
rest of the ride - we went on a short hack and he behaved impeccably.
I am shelving the Stubben saddle for the moment in favour of a
treeless saddle we have bought - see next post

Clare

"CB"  wrote in message 
news:c9f74137-2316-4ddf-8b6e-61de848a4f01@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Gary is riding him for the moment and we have only had one more
> 'Incident' when he had'nt been ridden for a few days -Gary started to
> mount him and he bucked while Gary's leg was half-way over - then
> continued. he with the velcro bum cocked his leg over and gave him a
> good wack with the riding crop which resulted in Cody stopping,
> thinking about it then thinking better of it. He was fantastic the
> rest of the ride - we went on a short hack and he behaved impeccably.
> I am shelving the Stubben saddle for the moment in favour of a
> treeless saddle we have bought - see next post
>

Hopefully it was just 'teenage tantrums' and he'll grow out of it.
SO useful to have a rider around with the old velcro bum, though!
Cheers
Alison.

On Sep 25, 1:16 pm, "Alison Coote"  wrote:
> "CB"  wrote in message
>
> news:c9f74137-2316-4ddf-8b6e-61de848a4f01@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Gary is riding him for the moment and we have only had one more
> > 'Incident' when he had'nt been ridden for a few days -Gary started to
> > mount him and he bucked while Gary's leg was half-way over - then
> > continued. he with the velcro bum cocked his leg over and gave him a
> > good wack with the riding crop which resulted in Cody stopping,
> > thinking about it then thinking better of it. He was fantastic the
> > rest of the ride - we went on a short hack and he behaved impeccably.
> > I am shelving the Stubben saddle for the moment in favour of a
> > treeless saddle we have bought - see next post
>
> Hopefully it was just 'teenage tantrums' and he'll grow out of it.
> SO useful to have a rider around with the old velcro bum, though!
> Cheers
> Alison.

Yes -lol! husbands (sometimes) have their uses lol!.  He just does
make me cringe when he rides cos he rides like an old farmer but is
vrey patient and suprisingly effective -which maybe starts a
discussion on whether it is better to be a correct (as in classical
positioned)  rider or an effective one.
clare

On Sep 25, 8:31 pm, CB  wrote:
> On Sep 25, 1:16 pm, "Alison Coote"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "CB"  wrote in message
>
> >news:c9f74137-2316-4ddf-8b6e-61de848a4f01@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Gary is riding him for the moment and we have only had one more
> > > 'Incident' when he had'nt been ridden for a few days -Gary started to
> > > mount him and he bucked while Gary's leg was half-way over - then
> > > continued. he with the velcro bum cocked his leg over and gave him a
> > > good wack with the riding crop which resulted in Cody stopping,
> > > thinking about it then thinking better of it. He was fantastic the
> > > rest of the ride - we went on a short hack and he behaved impeccably.
> > > I am shelving the Stubben saddle for the moment in favour of a
> > > treeless saddle we have bought - see next post
>
> > Hopefully it was just 'teenage tantrums' and he'll grow out of it.
> > SO useful to have a rider around with the old velcro bum, though!
> > Cheers
> > Alison.
>
> Yes -lol! husbands (sometimes) have their uses lol!.  He just does
> make me cringe when he rides cos he rides like an old farmer but is
> vrey patient and suprisingly effective -which maybe starts a
> discussion on whether it is better to be a correct (as in classical
> positioned)  rider or an effective one.
> clare- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Effective, definitely :)

On 25 Sep, 20:31, CB  wrote:
> On Sep 25, 1:16 pm, "Alison Coote"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "CB"  wrote in message
>
> >news:c9f74137-2316-4ddf-8b6e-61de848a4f01@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Gary is riding him for the moment and we have only had one more
> > > 'Incident' when he had'nt been ridden for a few days -Gary started to
> > > mount him and he bucked while Gary's leg was half-way over - then
> > > continued. he with the velcro bum cocked his leg over and gave him a
> > > good wack with the riding crop which resulted in Cody stopping,
> > > thinking about it then thinking better of it. He was fantastic the
> > > rest of the ride - we went on a short hack and he behaved impeccably.
> > > I am shelving the Stubben saddle for the moment in favour of a
> > > treeless saddle we have bought - see next post
>
> > Hopefully it was just 'teenage tantrums' and he'll grow out of it.
> > SO useful to have a rider around with the old velcro bum, though!
> > Cheers
> > Alison.
>
> Yes -lol! husbands (sometimes) have their uses lol!.  He just does
> make me cringe when he rides cos he rides like an old farmer but is
> vrey patient and suprisingly effective -which maybe starts a
> discussion on whether it is better to be a correct (as in classical
> positioned)  rider or an effective one.
> clare- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Must be the weight distribution.....lol

>"CB"  wrote
>
>which maybe starts a
>discussion on whether it is better to be a correct (as in classical
>positioned)  rider or an effective one.

Going to play Devil's Advocate here, but IMHO if you're the former, and not 
being the latter, then you're not doing the former correctly....

Which is not to say that you can't be the latter without being the former. 
;oP

On Sep 26, 9:00 am, "caroline"  wrote:
> >"CB"  wrote
>
> >which maybe starts a
> >discussion on whether it is better to be a correct (as in classical
> >positioned)  rider or an effective one.
>
> Going to play Devil's Advocate here, but IMHO if you're the former, and not
> being the latter, then you're not doing the former correctly....
>
> Which is not to say that you can't be the latter without being the former> ;oP

Hi Caroline

When I was doing my A.I. at Markington years ago (1978)  there were a
lot of classically trainied riders that could'nt sit on a fresh horse
out in a field. They were very effective at getting trained or in the
process of training horses to do movements in the School - but given
problems ,some seemed to be unable to cope with  sudden shifts in the
horses balance or speed ( ie getting carted across a 40 acre field by
a horse stabled 24/7 given only indoor arena work) When I got to
Markington ( on a scholarship - we were not rich) I rode with a
'defensive' seat LOL! meaning ready for all emergencies-having spend
the previous two years schooling young P.-To Pointers with the Zetland
Hunt. I got that energency position knocked out of me to enable me to
pass exams, but when I went to France they seemed unbothered abut the
riders position, and concentrated on how the horses were going . Pat
Parellii has, for once, the right attitude about rider position - he
reckons the riders role is to make sure they have the best possible
chance of not falling off LOL! In some cases that could be to never
get on a horse again LOL!

Clare

Flippancy aside, here's where I stand on this:
A rider's job is to assist the horse to carry itself and the rider.
On a balanced horse, the rider can sit very still, upright and pretty,
because the horse's centre of gravity will stay under the rider. On a
young, or unbalanced, or misbehaving horse, the rider has to change
their position if they're to stay with the horse. Therefore, an
effective person on an unschooled animal is probably not going to look
terribly pretty.
Carol

On 27 Sep, 02:04, Babbling  wrote:
> Flippancy aside, here's where I stand on this:
> A rider's job is to assist the horse to carry itself and the rider.
> On a balanced horse, the rider can sit very still, upright and pretty,
> because the horse's centre of gravity will stay under the rider. On a
> young, or unbalanced, or misbehaving horse, the rider has to change
> their position if they're to stay with the horse. Therefore, an
> effective person on an unschooled animal is probably not going to look
> terribly pretty.
> Carol

I understand where you are coming from, my position leaves something
to be desired, my boy is not really schooled, from driving at 2 years
of age until he came to me at 3 and I took the plunge stuck a saddle
on him and hoped for the best.  Nothing has changed that much.  we do
trot and we do canter (in a fashion) he is a horse with 9 legs, does
not look good but I managed to sit with him and still and quiet and we
usually have a good time.  We wont win any dressage or equitation
competitions, but for all his misgivings I do manage to keep myself in
the seat given everything in my boys world goes at 100mph.

I maybe wrong but I am of the opinion each horse in individual,
personality, conformation, makeup and capability and same applies to
rider, and if you find that common ground that makes riding for both
parties comfortable and happy then even if it does loook strange its
not such a bad thing - IMHO