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date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.rec.equestrian        back       
Colour Definition   
As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between

Tobiano
Overo
Sabino
Paint
Pinto

Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
in?
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> Tobiano
> Overo
> Sabino
> Paint
> Pinto
>
> Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> in?

Look in the archives of rec.equestrian
There are lots of really detailed conversations there that explain and 
confuse in equal quantity but they are much more into all the various 
genetic expressions of colour than here.
The other person who could tell you and know what they are talking about is 
someone you all drove from the group so she cannot help you.

-- 
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:15:32 +0100   author:   Jill

Re: Colour Definition   
" Jill"  wrote in message 
news:6es9evF8lfddU1@mid.individual.net...
> babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
>> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>>
>> Tobiano
>> Overo
>> Sabino

Sorry - pig ignorant about these - doesnt ClareB know?  Sure she has 
mentioned these colours
before.  Wouldnt they make nice horse names?! :-D

> Look in the archives of rec.equestrian
> There are lots of really detailed conversations there that explain and 
> confuse in equal quantity but they are much more into all the various 
> genetic expressions of colour than here.
> The other person who could tell you and know what they are talking about 
> is someone you all drove from the group so she cannot help you.
>
> -- 
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
............hey?   What she on about?  Who was driven from here?
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:08:59 +0100   author:   Jo

Re: Colour Definition   
babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
> 
> Tobiano
> Overo
> Sabino
> Paint
> Pinto
> 
> Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> in?


Try this site

http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/dreams/799/hc/horsecolors.htm

and see if that helps

LisaW
-- 
Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent. 
By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at 
hand."

Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."

Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez, 
Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."

Cobb: "I stand corrected."

Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."

"Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:46:50 -0400   author:   law et

Re: Colour Definition   
On 24 Jul, 22:15, " Jill"  wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> > Tobiano
> > Overo
> > Sabino
> > Paint
> > Pinto
>
> > Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> > in?
>
> Look in the archives of rec.equestrian
> There are lots of really detailed conversations there that explain and
> confuse in equal quantity but they are much more into all the various
> genetic expressions of colour than here.
> The other person who could tell you and know what they are talking about is
> someone you all drove from the group so she cannot help you.
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

Jill

Nobody drove anyone away, the past caught up with someone who was not
prepared to be honest about it.  End of story and there is plenty of
other places to get info I know, and that person who believed in their
own self importance is not the only person or place to ask

Thought I would start up a topic to liven the place up AGAIN, and you
bring that prat back into the conversation, only you could do that
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:58:06 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
On 24 Jul, 23:08, "Jo"  wrote:
> " Jill"  wrote in message
>
> news:6es9evF8lfddU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> >> Tobiano
> >> Overo
> >> Sabino
>
> Sorry - pig ignorant about these - doesnt ClareB know?  Sure she has
> mentioned these colours
> before.  Wouldnt they make nice horse names?! :-D
>
> > Look in the archives of rec.equestrian
> > There are lots of really detailed conversations there that explain and
> > confuse in equal quantity but they are much more into all the various
> > genetic expressions of colour than here.
> > The other person who could tell you and know what they are talking about
> > is someone you all drove from the group so she cannot help you.
>
> > --
> > regards
> > Jill Bowis
>
> ............hey?   What she on about?  Who was driven from here?

Hi Jo

Actually they would meake great names, never thought about that

By the way, keep an eye out in the post Jo, your bit is on its way
back and also a little thank you :-D
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:59:08 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
On 25 Jul, 06:46, law <lawiser...@att.Outnet> wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> > Tobiano
> > Overo
> > Sabino
> > Paint
> > Pinto
>
> > Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> > in?
>
> Try this site
>
> http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/dreams/799/hc/horsecolors.htm
>
> and see if that helps
>
> LisaW
> --
> Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent.
> By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at
> hand."
>
> Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."
>
> Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez,
> Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."
>
> Cobb: "I stand corrected."
>
> Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."
>
> "Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008

Thanks Lisa, found this too http://www.horsecolor.com/basics/starting_point.htm

Maybe a little light reading for me!
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:05:38 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:

only you could do that

Its very rarely me who mentions her, I do miss some of her, and the others, 
insightful, intelligent and interesting equine contributions -- and she was 
extremely knowledgeable.
Few people go through life in perfection.
Despite the mistakes some are still much more worthwhile.

-- 
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:06:56 +0100   author:   Jill

Re: Colour Definition   
" Jill"  wrote in message 
news:6ettmaF82gvuU1@mid.individual.net...
> babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> only you could do that
>
> Its very rarely me who mentions her, I do miss some of her, and the 
> others, insightful, intelligent and interesting equine contributions --  
> and she was extremely knowledgeable.
> Few people go through life in perfection.
> Despite the mistakes some are still much more worthwhile.


>
I agree. I enjoy EVERYBODYS contributions.

Karen
> --
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:10:09 +0100   author:   catkins

Re: Colour Definition   
On Jul 24, 2:50 pm, "babypink2...@googlemail.com"
 wrote:
> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> Tobiano
> Overo
> Sabino
> Paint
> Pinto
>
> Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> in?

Hi Julie

Best link is APHA  http://www.apha.com/breed/index.html (gives
examples of all colours in RHS menu link)

most in UK are Tobiano - Pointer is Tobiano

Overo's are harder to breed as the gene is ressessive and if you breed
two Overos you run the ridk of getting a lethal white foal - a foal
orn pure white that dies within days due to digestive malnormality)

Skewbald and Piebald are Uk names for the different colourings of the
Tobiano colour patter. Tobiano and Overo are Spanish names

. Sabino - well best read the info - it confuses a lot of people
http://www.apha.com/breed/geneticeq4.html ,  including me.

Clare
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:44:49 -0700 (PDT)   author:   CB

Re: Colour Definition   
On 26 Jul, 05:44, CB  wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2:50 pm, "babypink2...@googlemail.com"
>
>  wrote:
> > As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> > Tobiano
> > Overo
> > Sabino
> > Paint
> > Pinto
>
> > Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> > in?
>
> Hi Julie
>
> Best link is APHA  http://www.apha.com/breed/index.html(gives
> examples of all colours in RHS menu link)
>
> most in UK are Tobiano - Pointer is Tobiano
>
> Overo's are harder to breed as the gene is ressessive and if you breed
> two Overos you run the ridk of getting a lethal white foal - a foal
> orn pure white that dies within days due to digestive malnormality)
>
> Skewbald and Piebald are Uk names for the different colourings of the
> Tobiano colour patter. Tobiano and Overo are Spanish names
>
> . Sabino - well best read the info - it confuses a lot of peoplehttp://www.apha.com/breed/geneticeq4.html,  including me.
>
> Clare

Brilliant thanks so much, thats clears a few things up.  Simple
explanation or reading is fine with me!
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:18:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
On Jul 24, 3:15 pm, " Jill"  wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> > Tobiano
> > Overo
> > Sabino
> > Paint
> > Pinto
>
> > Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> > in?
>
> Look in the archives of rec.equestrian
> There are lots of really detailed conversations there that explain and
> confuse in equal quantity but they are much more into all the various
> genetic expressions of colour than here.
> The other person who could tell you and know what they are talking about is
> someone you all drove from the group so she cannot help you.
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

Hi Jill

Before you jump into a thread with negative and off topic remarks best
get your facts right. The person, whom I shall refer to as P,  was not
hounded off this NG - she was not the sort of person to be bullied you
know that. She allegedley sold some horses to people on the NG that
were unsuitable or in some cases had vices, using her 'good'
reputation on the NG. We only heard one side of the story - that of
her 'victims' - she had every opportunity to redress that and give her
side but she just disappeared from the NG literally overnight - . Her
little band of 'merry 'men' soon followed suite which leads me to
believe they were in some way in on the con because they all got
'fantastic' horses through her...Its difficult to judge the whole
situation without two sides - but she decided to do a runner ( in more
ways than one cos she actually owed Mark money if I recall) from the
NG -speaks volumes : end of.

Clare
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT)   author:   CB

Re: Colour Definition   
On Jul 26, 1:18 am, "babypink2...@googlemail.com"
 wrote:
> On 26 Jul, 05:44, CB  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 24, 2:50 pm, "babypink2...@googlemail.com"
>
> >  wrote:
> > > As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>
> > > Tobiano
> > > Overo
> > > Sabino
> > > Paint
> > > Pinto
>
> > > Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> > > in?
>
> > Hi Julie
>
> > Best link is APHA  http://www.apha.com/breed/index.html(gives
> > examples of all colours in RHS menu link)
>
> > most in UK are Tobiano - Pointer is Tobiano
>
> > Overo's are harder to breed as the gene is ressessive and if you breed
> > two Overos you run the ridk of getting a lethal white foal - a foal
> > orn pure white that dies within days due to digestive malnormality)
>
> > Skewbald and Piebald are Uk names for the different colourings of the
> > Tobiano colour patter. Tobiano and Overo are Spanish names
>
> > . Sabino - well best read the info - it confuses a lot of peoplehttp://www.apha.com/breed/geneticeq4.html,  including me.
>
> > Clare
>
> Brilliant thanks so much, thats clears a few things up.  Simple
> explanation or reading is fine with me!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hi Julie

Forgot to mention the Pinto question. Pinto means 'Paint' in Spanish
and all broken coloured horses used to be called Pinto until the Paint
Horse society decided to introduce rules on what types of horses could
be allowed on the Stud Register - they have to have at least one  Reg
Paint horse parent and only Quarter Horses or TB are allowed on the
register.  They were trying to develop the paint horse into a good,
working ranch type - which worked in theory but now they are going the
ridiculous route the QH halter showing is going with oversized huge
bodies and thin spindly legs. This breed restriction caused the Pinto
society to  develop and the Pinto soc. is a colour register, a bit
like the Palomino Soc. Any breed is acceptable, and they tend to have
a finer type of animal as a lot of Arab gets into the Gene Pool.
Pinto's are usually Tobiano. In North America, Pointer would be Pinto,
though he had the conformation of a really good solid American paint
horse.

Clare
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:51:06 -0700 (PDT)   author:   CB

Re: Colour Definition   
CB wrote:
>
> Hi Jill
>
> Before you jump into a thread with negative and off topic remarks best
> get your facts right.

My facts were right -- she has more interest and knowledge in this topic 
[colour genetics as in the OP] than most others.
Unfortunately she was made unwelcome here, due to her mistakes I grant, but 
I am allowed to hold and express the opinion that she, and the many others 
that left due to the lynch mob that raged here at the time, were more 
interesting, more experienced, more knowledgeable, and created a group that 
was far more enjoyable to lurk and participate in, than it has been since.

I do not have the luxury of spending time in Saddle-Up and other such 
places, there is too much going on there, and this has to be but a passing 
interest these days.
If I had I would. I often wonder about how those others, and their equines, 
are getting on.

I adore the likes of Sue and Alisons adventures, and hearing about Louise 
and Babblings herds, but this is a much depleted community.
While there are snide silly comments about "merry men" and objections like 
this, to someone expressing their opinion that differs from yours, then 
anyone else, passing through of their calibre, will dismiss this place as 
far too much like a primary school playground.

This is Usenet, its not Clarenet, so you cannot inform me what I can or 
cannot say, nor tell me what my impression of events were. I respect your 
opinion, please respect mine.

-- 
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:24:15 +0100   author:   Jill

Re: Colour Definition   
babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 26 Jul, 05:44, CB  wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 2:50 pm, "babypink2...@googlemail.com"
>>
>>  wrote:
>>> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>>> Tobiano
>>> Overo
>>> Sabino
>>> Paint
>>> Pinto
>>> Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
>>> in?
>> Hi Julie
>>
>> Best link is APHA  http://www.apha.com/breed/index.html(gives
>> examples of all colours in RHS menu link)
>>
>> most in UK are Tobiano - Pointer is Tobiano
>>
>> Overo's are harder to breed as the gene is ressessive and if you breed
>> two Overos you run the ridk of getting a lethal white foal - a foal
>> orn pure white that dies within days due to digestive malnormality)
>>
>> Skewbald and Piebald are Uk names for the different colourings of the
>> Tobiano colour patter. Tobiano and Overo are Spanish names
>>
>> . Sabino - well best read the info - it confuses a lot of peoplehttp://www.apha.com/breed/geneticeq4.html,  including me.
>>
>> Clare
> 
> Brilliant thanks so much, thats clears a few things up.  Simple
> explanation or reading is fine with me!

http://pets.webshots.com/album/65672580hdC

I'm hoping that is a working link to the Webshots of my Sabino --- just 
as a little contrast to the Sabino picture on the webshot. Taz is a very 
coppery red chestnut/sorrel with a redish hued flaxen mane and tail. 
When you look closely, he has roaning on his body as well as the splashy 
white.


LisaW
-- 
Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent. 
By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at 
hand."

Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."

Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez, 
Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."

Cobb: "I stand corrected."

Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."

"Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:32:31 -0400   author:   law et

Re: Colour Definition   
"law" <lawiserNot@att.Outnet> wrote in message 
news:t93jk.8592$vn7.6527@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...
> babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
>> On 26 Jul, 05:44, CB  wrote:
>>> On Jul 24, 2:50 pm, "babypink2...@googlemail.com"
>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>>> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
>>>> Tobiano
>>>> Overo
>>>> Sabino
>>>> Paint
>>>> Pinto
>>>> Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
>>>> in?
>>> Hi Julie
>>>
>>> Best link is APHA  http://www.apha.com/breed/index.html(gives
>>> examples of all colours in RHS menu link)
>>>
>>> most in UK are Tobiano - Pointer is Tobiano
>>>
>>> Overo's are harder to breed as the gene is ressessive and if you breed
>>> two Overos you run the ridk of getting a lethal white foal - a foal
>>> orn pure white that dies within days due to digestive malnormality)
>>>
>>> Skewbald and Piebald are Uk names for the different colourings of the
>>> Tobiano colour patter. Tobiano and Overo are Spanish names
>>>
>>> . Sabino - well best read the info - it confuses a lot of 
>>> peoplehttp://www.apha.com/breed/geneticeq4.html,  including me.
>>>
>>> Clare
>>
>> Brilliant thanks so much, thats clears a few things up.  Simple
>> explanation or reading is fine with me!
>
> http://pets.webshots.com/album/65672580hdC
>
> I'm hoping that is a working link to the Webshots of my Sabino --- just as 
> a little contrast to the Sabino picture on the webshot. Taz is a very 
> coppery red chestnut/sorrel with a redish hued flaxen mane and tail. When 
> you look closely, he has roaning on his body as well as the splashy white.
>
>
> LisaW

Sorry Lisa, I can't get this website at the mo for some reason - pity - will 
try again later
Jo
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:19:15 +0100   author:   Jo

Re: Colour Definition   
On 27 Jul, 13:24, " Jill"  wrote:
> CB wrote:
>
> > Hi Jill
>
> > Before you jump into a thread with negative and off topic remarks best
> > get your facts right.
>
> My facts were right -- she has more interest and knowledge in this topic
> [colour genetics as in the OP] than most others.
> Unfortunately she was made unwelcome here, due to her mistakes I grant, but
> I am allowed to hold and express the opinion that she, and the many others
> that left due to the lynch mob that raged here at the time, were more
> interesting, more experienced, more knowledgeable, and created a group that
> was far more enjoyable to lurk and participate in, than it has been since.
>
> I do not have the luxury of spending time in Saddle-Up and other such
> places, there is too much going on there, and this has to be but a passing
> interest these days.
> If I had I would. I often wonder about how those others, and their equines,
> are getting on.
>
> I adore the likes of Sue and Alisons adventures, and hearing about Louise
> and Babblings herds, but this is a much depleted community.
> While there are snide silly comments about "merry men" and objections like
> this, to someone expressing their opinion that differs from yours, then
> anyone else, passing through of their calibre, will dismiss this place as
> far too much like a primary school playground.
>
> This is Usenet, its not Clarenet, so you cannot inform me what I can or
> cannot say, nor tell me what my impression of events were. I respect your
> opinion, please respect mine.
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

The whole point was Jill, that P is NOT the fountain of all knowledge,
and that all I was asking was a few colour genetic questions and you
brought this person in the fold and that she was hounded off.  What
the hell has that got to do with the initial question at all?

I would have liked a reasonable discussion or held with links that
would assist, not an opportunity to drag up the flippin past!

How difficult is that?
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:37:26 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
On 27 Jul, 19:32, law <lawiser...@att.Outnet> wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > On 26 Jul, 05:44, CB  wrote:
> >> On Jul 24, 2:50 pm, "babypink2...@googlemail.com"
>
> >>  wrote:
> >>> As much as I try I cannot understand the difference between
> >>> Tobiano
> >>> Overo
> >>> Sabino
> >>> Paint
> >>> Pinto
> >>> Then of course the is Skewbald/Piebald, where on earth does that come
> >>> in?
> >> Hi Julie
>
> >> Best link is APHA  http://www.apha.com/breed/index.html(gives
> >> examples of all colours in RHS menu link)
>
> >> most in UK are Tobiano - Pointer is Tobiano
>
> >> Overo's are harder to breed as the gene is ressessive and if you breed
> >> two Overos you run the ridk of getting a lethal white foal - a foal
> >> orn pure white that dies within days due to digestive malnormality)
>
> >> Skewbald and Piebald are Uk names for the different colourings of the
> >> Tobiano colour patter. Tobiano and Overo are Spanish names
>
> >> . Sabino - well best read the info - it confuses a lot of peoplehttp://www.apha.com/breed/geneticeq4.html,  including me.
>
> >> Clare
>
> > Brilliant thanks so much, thats clears a few things up.  Simple
> > explanation or reading is fine with me!
>
> http://pets.webshots.com/album/65672580hdC
>
> I'm hoping that is a working link to the Webshots of my Sabino --- just
> as a little contrast to the Sabino picture on the webshot. Taz is a very
> coppery red chestnut/sorrel with a redish hued flaxen mane and tail.
> When you look closely, he has roaning on his body as well as the splashy
> white.
>
> LisaW
> --
> Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent.
> By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at
> hand."
>
> Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."
>
> Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez,
> Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."
>
> Cobb: "I stand corrected."
>
> Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."
>
> "Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry the link does not work :-(
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:38:21 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:
> The whole point was Jill, that P is NOT the fountain of all knowledge,

Don't be silly, I did not suggest this.
She was, however, very knowledgeable about Colour genetics, it was clearly a 
real interest of hers, if you look in the archives you will see.

and I am allowed to express a view about the past, its not up to a few to 
determine how the rest of us might think.
I just don't have the vapours every time any of the past community is 
mentioned.
Why should you?

-- 
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:48:34 +0100   author:   Jill

Re: Colour Definition   
On 28 Jul, 10:48, " Jill"  wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > The whole point was Jill, that P is NOT the fountain of all knowledge,
>
> Don't be silly, I did not suggest this.
> She was, however, very knowledgeable about Colour genetics, it was clearly a
> real interest of hers, if you look in the archives you will see.
>
> and I am allowed to express a view about the past, its not up to a few to
> determine how the rest of us might think.
> I just don't have the vapours every time any of the past community is
> mentioned.
> Why should you?
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

Well try sticking to the subject Jill then, thats the whole point of
which again you are completely missing?
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:36:52 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Colour Definition   
On Jul 27, 6:24 am, " Jill"  wrote:
> CB wrote:
>
> > Hi Jill
>
> > Before you jump into a thread with negative and off topic remarks best
> > get your facts right.
>
> My facts were right -- she has more interest and knowledge in this topic
> [colour genetics as in the OP] than most others.
> Unfortunately she was made unwelcome here, due to her mistakes I grant, but
> I am allowed to hold and express the opinion that she, and the many others
> that left due to the lynch mob that raged here at the time, were more
> interesting, more experienced, more knowledgeable, and created a group that
> was far more enjoyable to lurk and participate in, than it has been since> I do not have the luxury of spending time in Saddle-Up and other such
> places, there is too much going on there, and this has to be but a passing
> interest these days.
> If I had I would. I often wonder about how those others, and their equines,
> are getting on.
>
> I adore the likes of Sue and Alisons adventures, and hearing about Louise
> and Babblings herds, but this is a much depleted community.
> While there are snide silly comments about "merry men" and objections like
> this, to someone expressing their opinion that differs from yours, then
> anyone else, passing through of their calibre, will dismiss this place as
> far too much like a primary school playground.
>
> This is Usenet, its not Clarenet, so you cannot inform me what I can or
> cannot say, nor tell me what my impression of events were. I respect your
> opinion, please respect mine.
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

My respect for your opinion is not the issue - you stated someone was
hounded off here - she was not - anyone who ever read her threads
would know she was not the type of person to be bullied off an NG.

As for your contributions Jill - they are most welcome though a little
sparse on content - that is until you get your teeth into someone or
something , then all of a sudden you find the time to write four
paragraphs.....

Clare
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:20:44 -0700 (PDT)   author:   CB

Re: Colour Definition   
On Jul 28, 3:48 am, " Jill"  wrote:
> babypink2...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > The whole point was Jill, that P is NOT the fountain of all knowledge,
>
> Don't be silly, I did not suggest this.
> She was, however, very knowledgeable about Colour genetics, it was clearly a
> real interest of hers, if you look in the archives you will see.
>
> and I am allowed to express a view about the past, its not up to a few to
> determine how the rest of us might think.
> I just don't have the vapours every time any of the past community is
> mentioned.
> Why should you?
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis
>
> Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
> Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
> Seasonal Farm Foodhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

Jill

To be pedantic, the question was NOT about colour genetics, which
include the genetic probabilities of solid coloured horses as well as
broken coloured horses . The question was asking about the various
colour PATTERNS of broken coloured horses.

Clare
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:31:44 -0700 (PDT)   author:   CB

Re: Colour Definition   
Jo wrote:

>>
>> I'm hoping that is a working link to the Webshots of my Sabino --- just as 
>> a little contrast to the Sabino picture on the webshot. Taz is a very 
>> coppery red chestnut/sorrel with a redish hued flaxen mane and tail. When 
>> you look closely, he has roaning on his body as well as the splashy white.
>>
>>
>> LisaW
> 
> Sorry Lisa, I can't get this website at the mo for some reason - pity - will 
> try again later
> Jo 
> 
> 

Somehow, I've missed the lesson on "how to access pages on Webshots" -- 
others haven't, I see there are views all the time. Anyone know the secret?

Or, I'll be glad to send you directly pictures of my boy --- they are 
from about 10 years ago, but he's still beautiful!

LisaW
-- 
Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent. 
By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at 
hand."

Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."

Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez, 
Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."

Cobb: "I stand corrected."

Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."

"Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:33:30 -0400   author:   law et

Re: Colour Definition   
babypink2807@googlemail.com wrote:

> Sorry the link does not work :-(

Heh -- I've never figured out how to do the url so anyone can list. But 
I tried doing a search and got

http://www.webshots.com/search?query=taz+delangley&new=1&source=search_results_top

see if this let's you look.


LisaW
-- 
Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent. 
By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at 
hand."

Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."

Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez, 
Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."

Cobb: "I stand corrected."

Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."

"Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:36:50 -0400   author:   law et

Re: Colour Definition   
"law" <lawiserNot@att.Outnet> wrote in message 
news:Phojk.15618$xZ.10038@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> Somehow, I've missed the lesson on "how to access pages on Webshots" -- 
> others haven't, I see there are views all the time. Anyone know the 
> secret?

have you set the album up as a private one?

oh - just looked and even though I have webshots albums I cannot see it 
either.

the error I got was
We're sorry... ...due to a high volume of page requests, this Webshots page 
is not available right now.

If you are looking for a photo, it is possible that the photo has moved or 
no longer exists.

If you are in the process of creating an album, please be assured that your 
data has been sent to our site. You may try refreshing the browser window or 
reloading the page in a few moments.

-- 
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:44:31 +0100   author:   Jill

Re: Colour Definition   
Jill wrote:

> oh - just looked and even though I have webshots albums I cannot see it 
> either.
> 
> the error I got was
> We're sorry... ...due to a high volume of page requests, this Webshots page 
> is not available right now.
> 
> If you are looking for a photo, it is possible that the photo has moved or 
> no longer exists.
> 
> If you are in the process of creating an album, please be assured that your 
> data has been sent to our site. You may try refreshing the browser window or 
> reloading the page in a few moments.
> 

Nope -- albums there, get reports OTHER people are able to llok at it, 
I'm just not sure what URL I'm supposed to use to share it with people 
I'd like to see it ....


LisaW
-- 
Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent. 
By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at 
hand."

Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."

Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez, 
Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."

Cobb: "I stand corrected."

Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."

"Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:41:02 -0400   author:   law et

Re: Colour Definition   
I just managed to get on. Saw 3 photos, is that right Lisa?
Very nice, I must say :)
Carol
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:31:10 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Babbling

Re: Colour Definition   
Babbling wrote:
> I just managed to get on. Saw 3 photos, is that right Lisa?
> Very nice, I must say :)
> Carol

That sounds like the one ... Taz alone, grazing, then Taz with Dixie. 
Taz is the copper red sabino.  He sure looks pretty in the sunlight! 
And, since his time being buddies with a halter quarter horse mare, he 
generally manages to keep his white parts pretty white -- the mare was 
very persnickity about getting dirty.

LisaW
-- 
Mamet: "The secret to winning any debate is to marginalize your oponent. 
By painting them as a glue-sniffing moron, you easily win the issue at 
hand."

Cobb: "WRONG. Don't listen to a word he says, Tucker."

Mamet (gyrating madly): "Dah Dah Dah. Don't wisten to a word he sez, 
Tuckah. Doh Doh Dah."

Cobb: "I stand corrected."

Mamet: "They charge 20 Grand for this stuff at Univeristy."

"Deflocked" -- July, 10, 2008
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:28:28 -0400   author:   law et

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