We have, by a roundabout way, got hold of the details of a guy in Lancashire who
apparently still has 10 ex-army BSA sets in good inhibited condition, with
exhaust, manual, toolkit, starting rope, charging lead etc.

He is asking £100 each for them.

We are not involved in any way, we were looking for spares.

Contact me for more details if you are interested..

Peter
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That's still very expensive for one but better than the £250 I found 
yesterday on the net.

Martin P
"Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
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> We have, by a roundabout way, got hold of the details of a guy in 
> Lancashire who
> apparently still has 10 ex-army BSA sets in good inhibited condition, with
> exhaust, manual, toolkit, starting rope, charging lead etc.
>
> He is asking £100 each for them.
>
> We are not involved in any way, we were looking for spares.
>
> Contact me for more details if you are interested..
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter & Rita Forbes
> Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk

Just for clarification, when we speak of "BSA charging sets", I take it we 
mean the inclined, air-cooled, all cast iron SV single cylinder engines 
originated  by Johnson in the USA before WW2?

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1050653668036810695KFxcPt

I have several & when others fail, this will always start on the button & 
run all day on a little ancient petrol.

Prices are slowly rising & between £50 & £70 is not unusual now for an 
example complete with it's wire frame. My life is now complete in that I 
have eventually found an example that generates 230volts AC - not sure if it 
actually does, mind!

regards,

Kim Siddorn

"campingstoveman" wrote
> That's still very expensive for one but better than the £250 I found 
> yesterday on the net.
>
> Martin P
> "Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
> news:olead4thpua9rbtbr5b4mfvk4p4b8pfhvq@4ax.com...
>> We have, by a roundabout way, got hold of the details of a guy in 
>> Lancashire who
>> apparently still has 10 ex-army BSA sets in good inhibited condition, 
>> with
>> exhaust, manual, toolkit, starting rope, charging lead etc.
>>
>> He is asking £100 each for them.
>>
>> We are not involved in any way, we were looking for spares.
>>
>> Contact me for more details if you are interested..
>>
>> Peter
>> --
>> Peter & Rita Forbes
>> Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
>> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk
>> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
>
>

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:19:29 +0100, "Kim Siddorn" 
wrote:

>Just for clarification, when we speak of "BSA charging sets", I take it we 
>mean the inclined, air-cooled, all cast iron SV single cylinder engines 
>originated  by Johnson in the USA before WW2?
>
>http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1050653668036810695KFxcPt
>
>I have several & when others fail, this will always start on the button & 
>run all day on a little ancient petrol.
>
>Prices are slowly rising & between £50 & £70 is not unusual now for an 
>example complete with it's wire frame. My life is now complete in that I 
>have eventually found an example that generates 230volts AC - not sure if it 
>actually does, mind!
>
>regards,
>
>Kim Siddorn

Yes, these are the 30V 10A versions, of which we now have 3 and Martin also has
one.

Pretty simple and robust little units.

Peter
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Peter A Forbes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, these are the 30V 10A versions, of which we now have 3 and Martin also has

I have the slightly more unusual 12v 20a canadian WW2 version here if you
want to make up the full set.
Handy for car batteries.

> I have the slightly more unusual 12v 20a canadian WW2 version here if you
> want to make up the full set.
> Handy for car batteries.

I'm very interested in finding a small, lightweight 12V charging set.
I suffer from sleep apnea so always have to bring my CPAP when
camping. It will run off a 12V battery and it would be nice to be able
to recharge in the field. My 230V genset is a bit overkill size and
weight wise. How big/heavy are these BSA sets?

Michael

> I'm very interested in finding a small, lightweight 12V charging set.....

I found a manual on the 'net. Nice and compact (15x15x14") but heavy -
100lbs. I'd still like to get my hands on one though and if it's a 30V
version then I guess a suitable dump load could be used to charge 12V
batteries. Kim, any idea where I find the £50 ones? ;-)

Michael

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT), michaelbrix wrote:

>> I'm very interested in finding a small, lightweight 12V charging 
>> set.....
> 
> I found a manual on the 'net. Nice and compact (15x15x14") but heavy -> 100lbs. 

A 750w two stroke genset will be smaller and lighter (40lbs or less). They 
all(?) have a 12v DC battery charging output of a few amps. Should be able 
to get one for £60 or so.

No where near as interesting though.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.

100lbs? Good Lord above, they don't weigh that much - I can lug one from 
garage to back of car with a bit of a grunt, negotiating doorways, steps and 
through the house. They are certainly on the heavy side, but I'd have said 
about 50-60lbs.

If they DO weigh that much, I'm a lot stronger than I thought!!

Modern two stroke Chinese gennies are about from time to time for as little 
as £49.99. The 750 watt versions have a 12 volt facility but it is an 
expensive way of charging a battery. Have you considered a solar panel - 
quieter too.

regards,

Kim Siddorn

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT), michaelbrix wrote:

>> I'm very interested in finding a small, lightweight 12V charging
>> set.....
>
> I found a manual on the 'net. Nice and compact (15x15x14") but heavy -
> 100lbs.

A 750w two stroke genset will be smaller and lighter (40lbs or less). They
all(?) have a 12v DC battery charging output of a few amps. Should be able
to get one for £60 or so.

No where near as interesting though.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:31:46 퍝, Kim Siddorn wrote:

> 100lbs? Good Lord above, they don't weigh that much - I can lug one from 
> garage to back of car with a bit of a grunt, 
<snip>
> If they DO weigh that much, I'm a lot stronger than I thought!!

110lbs is best part of 1cwt. Cement etc comes in 25kg (50lb 1/2 cwt ish)bags these days how does one of those compare?

> Modern two stroke Chinese gennies are about from time to time for as 
> little as £49.99. The 750 watt versions have a 12 volt facility but it 
> is an expensive way of charging a battery. 

Chinese 2 stroke expensive way of charging a battery? More so than a BSAset? Assuming roughly equal capital costs. The 2 stroke will have 230v as 
well...

> Have you considered a solar panel - quieter too.

Needs to be big (aka expensive) and have good light to get a decent charge 
current. A small £20 ish panel is OK for keeping a lead acid battery 
topped up but it would take for ever to actually charge one.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.

> Chinese 2 stroke expensive way of charging a battery?

I have one of those. Mine only has 230V output so I would need to
bring a charger as well. Noisy beast and not very interesting.

> > Have you considered a solar panel - quieter too.

Ha, with the amount of sunshine we get in this country I would
suffocate in my sleep due to a flat battery. I do have a 40VA panel
but they are not easy to transport. A portable waterwheel would be
more appropriate ;-)

Michael

On 21 Sep, 17:16, michaelbrix  wrote:
> > I have the slightly more unusual 12v 20a canadian WW2 version here if you
> > want to make up the full set.
> > Handy for car batteries.
>
> I'm very interested in finding a small, lightweight 12V charging set.
> I suffer from sleep apnea so always have to bring my CPAP when
> camping. It will run off a 12V battery and it would be nice to be able
> to recharge in the field. My 230V genset is a bit overkill size and
> weight wise. How big/heavy are these BSA sets?
>
> Michael

Wasn't there a lightweight 12V charger using the JAP 2A engine? I seem
to remember one directly coupled to a 12V generator with a built in
control panel. About 18inches long, 12 inches wide and 18inches high.
Easily lifted by the young (12ish) lad who was displaying it.

Fred

Fred

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:31:46 +0100, "Kim Siddorn" 
wrote:

>100lbs? Good Lord above, they don't weigh that much - I can lug one from 
>garage to back of car with a bit of a grunt, negotiating doorways, steps and 
>through the house. They are certainly on the heavy side, but I'd have said 
>about 50-60lbs.

They are a bit uncomfortable to pick up and carry, but manageable for short
distances. That frame is solid steel bar, not tube, and the fuel tank/base is
all cast as well.

Peter
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Affectionately known as a "Trolley Acc." IIRC. Nice little machine,ran like 
a clock but not exactly lightweight! I had one which would have filled the 
bill. It was a Sachs 2 stroke close coupled to a "Conyers" 12v  genny, in a 
little tubular frame. Real lightweight. One hand job, but it was a noisy 
little bugger!! Sadly it's one I didn't keep a photo of.
"g6zru"  wrote in message 
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> On 21 Sep, 17:16, michaelbrix  wrote:
>> > I have the slightly more unusual 12v 20a canadian WW2 version here if 
>> > you
>> > want to make up the full set.
>> > Handy for car batteries.
>>
>> I'm very interested in finding a small, lightweight 12V charging set.
>> I suffer from sleep apnea so always have to bring my CPAP when
>> camping. It will run off a 12V battery and it would be nice to be able
>> to recharge in the field. My 230V genset is a bit overkill size and
>> weight wise. How big/heavy are these BSA sets?
>>
>> Michael
>
> Wasn't there a lightweight 12V charger using the JAP 2A engine? I seem
> to remember one directly coupled to a 12V generator with a built in
> control panel. About 18inches long, 12 inches wide and 18inches high.
> Easily lifted by the young (12ish) lad who was displaying it.
>
> Fred
>
> Fred

There is also the ALCO Featherweight which is a tall, rangy beast, noisy and 
far bigger about than it needs to be. Light enough to stagger about with 
though.

regards,

Kim Siddorn

"g6zru" < wrote

> Wasn't there a lightweight 12V charger using the JAP 2A engine? I seem  to 
> remember one directly coupled to a 12V generator with a built in
> control panel. About 18inches long, 12 inches wide and 18inches high. 
> Easily lifted by the young (12ish) lad who was displaying it.
>
> Fred