I am looking for a source for two pistons with conrods for a Gardner
2LW. At the moment I don't have any dimensions or numbers for the
engine. This is my first port of call looking for the parts.
SEM is on my list if nothing materialises.
The 2LW is not mine but the parts are a trade (hopefully!) for an
incomplete engine.
Thanks in advance.
   Regards,
     Dave Carter.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:58:48 -0700 (PDT), "D.J.Carter"
 wrote:

>I am looking for a source for two pistons with conrods for a Gardner
>2LW. At the moment I don't have any dimensions or numbers for the
>engine. This is my first port of call looking for the parts.
>SEM is on my list if nothing materialises.
>The 2LW is not mine but the parts are a trade (hopefully!) for an
>incomplete engine.
>Thanks in advance.
>   Regards,
>     Dave Carter.

I've got some L2 rods <g>

Actually, I think I have one new piston. I wouldn't have thought there
was much problem sourcing pistons (other than paying for them)

Also have a rather rusty 2-cyl LW head looking for a home. I don't
think there's much wrong with it that an electrolytic bath wouldn't
put right.

Tim

On 30 Aug, 21:18, Tim Leech  wrote:

>
> I've got some L2 rods <g>
>
> Actually, I think I have one new piston. I wouldn't have thought there
> was much problem sourcing pistons (other than paying for them)
>
> Also have a rather rusty 2-cyl LW head looking for a home. I don't
> think there's much wrong with it that an electrolytic bath wouldn't
> put right.
>
> Tim

Tim,
   Would I be right in thinking an LW2 is the water cooled version of
an L2?
{ My Gardner ignorance is quite substantial!  :))  }

If they are the same,  would you temporarily reserve them and I'll get
in touch with the owner and ask about bore sizes.
The only other problem being is that he is on the west
coast ...............of Canada!

Regards,
  Dave Carter.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT), "D.J.Carter"
 wrote:


>Tim,
>   Would I be right in thinking an LW2 is the water cooled version of
>an L2?
>{ My Gardner ignorance is quite substantial!  :))  }
>

No, they're both watercooled.
The LW was the 'LightWeight' version of the L2 developed for road
vehicles.
The L2 is a marine/stationary type engine with separate bedplate,
crankcase (with crankcase doors) and cylinder block. The LW has a
one-piece crankcase, with separate cylinder block.
The L2 has individual cylinder heads, the LW has heads in groups of 2
or 3 cylinders.

They share the same bore and stroke, pistons are more or less
interchangeable as are exhaust valves & a few other bits.
Sorry, my rods would be of no use to you.

Tim

On 30 Aug, 20:58, "D.J.Carter"  wrote:
> I am looking for a source for two pistons with conrods for a Gardner
> 2LW. At the moment I don't have any dimensions or numbers for the
> engine. This is my first port of call looking for the parts.

I can help with LW pistons, but they are +.030 oversize.  I can also
help with con rods.

Please ring me on 07802572441 or email snark .at. benburb . demon .
co . uk

Joe

On 31 Aug, 08:25, snark  wrote:

>
> I can help with LW pistons, but they are .030 oversize.  I can also
> help with con rods.
>
> Please ring me on 07802572441 or email snark .at. benburb . demon .
> co . uk

Joe,
  I've sent an email.

  Regards,
  Dave Carter.

I have received a reply from the owner about the Gardner ID plate info
and the actual bore size of the engine.

Dave,
Can't find a spec plate but cast on the cylinder is a large L2. The s/
n is;  No 42937 with a small 1s below and to the left of the s/n. The
bore is 4.25" with a .002 taper and .002 out of round both cylinders
suggesting little wear. There is a brass plate that says;
               MANUFACTURED BY
        L. GARDNER & SONS LTD.
                PATRICROFT
                MANCHESTER
INCORPORATING SOME OF OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
PATENTS -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  L2 L3 LW

I don't know what the engine was used for. It does not have a marine
transmission so I expect it was a stationary power supply. Can the s/n
help out at all?


Having re-checked his original email to me, it definately says 2LW.
However, my apologies.

Anyone know of a Gardner register or similar?   Nothing in SEM
Helpline.

As Tim said :-
 "They share the same bore and stroke, pistons are more or less
interchangeable ...." ,
   may I ask, how much "more or less"? Any idea of the difference?

Just toying with a possible combination,  would Joe's o/size pistons
(machined down to fit) fit Tim's conrods?

Regards,
         Dave.

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:13:09 -0700 (PDT), "D.J.Carter"
 wrote:

>I have received a reply from the owner about the Gardner ID plate info
>and the actual bore size of the engine.
>
>Dave,
>Can't find a spec plate but cast on the cylinder is a large L2. The s/
>n is;  No 42937 with a small 1s below and to the left of the s/n. The
>bore is 4.25" with a .002 taper and .002 out of round both cylinders
>suggesting little wear. There is a brass plate that says;
>               MANUFACTURED BY
>        L. GARDNER & SONS LTD.
>                PATRICROFT
>                MANCHESTER
>INCORPORATING SOME OF OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
>PATENTS -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  L2 L3 LW
>
>I don't know what the engine was used for. It does not have a marine
>transmission so I expect it was a stationary power supply. Can the s/n
>help out at all?
>
>
>Having re-checked his original email to me, it definately says 2LW.
>However, my apologies.
>
>Anyone know of a Gardner register or similar?   Nothing in SEM
>Helpline.
>
>As Tim said :-
> "They share the same bore and stroke, pistons are more or less
>interchangeable ...." ,
>   may I ask, how much "more or less"? Any idea of the difference?
>
>Just toying with a possible combination,  would Joe's o/size pistons
>(machined down to fit) fit Tim's conrods?
>

Some LW pistons were not supposed to be fitted to L2s, I never got to
the bottom of why though it may have something to do with offset
gudgeon pins.

I've got two pistons here ('new', standard size) marked something like
'LW, HLW, 2-6L2' as they often were. The 1L2 used a different piston
as the camshaft was at 90 degrees to the crankshaft.
The pistons are not identical, one is an older style than the other,
and one is short of a couple of rings. I might be able to find some
rings, they ought to be available anyway from the likes of Gardner
Spares
http://www.gardnerspares.com/

Tim

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:48:13 +0100, Tim Leech
 wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:13:09 -0700 (PDT), "D.J.Carter"
> wrote:
>
>>I have received a reply from the owner about the Gardner ID plate info
>>and the actual bore size of the engine.
>>
>>Dave,
>>Can't find a spec plate but cast on the cylinder is a large L2. The s/
>>n is;  No 42937 with a small 1s below and to the left of the s/n. The
>>bore is 4.25" with a .002 taper and .002 out of round both cylinders
>>suggesting little wear. There is a brass plate that says;
>>               MANUFACTURED BY
>>        L. GARDNER & SONS LTD.
>>                PATRICROFT
>>                MANCHESTER
>>INCORPORATING SOME OF OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
>>PATENTS -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  L2 L3 LW
>>
>>I don't know what the engine was used for. It does not have a marine
>>transmission so I expect it was a stationary power supply. Can the s/n
>>help out at all?
>>
>>

I should have suggested before - as a certain check whether it's an L2
or LW, the L2 always has individual cylinder heads, one per cylinder.
It also has crankcase doors.
The LW has one head for two or three cylinders, and no crankcase
doors.

Tim

On 5 Sep, 22:53, Tim Leech  wrote:

> I should have suggested before - as a certain check whether it's an L2
> or LW, the L2 always has individual cylinder heads, one per cylinder.
> It also has crankcase doors.
> The LW has one head for two or three cylinders, and no crankcase
> doors.
>


 Thank you, Tim. I'll email him again to make sure.

Regards, Dave.

On 6 Sep, 20:14, "D.J.Carter"  wrote:
> On 5 Sep, 22:53, Tim Leech  wrote:
>
> > I should have suggested before - as a certain check whether it's an L2
> > or LW, the L2 always has individual cylinder heads, one per cylinder.
> > It also has crankcase doors.
> > The LW has one head for two or three cylinders, and no crankcase
> > doors.
>
>  Thank you, Tim. I'll email him again to make sure.
>
> Regards, Dave.

Tim,
 Separate heads and crankcase doors, so definately 2L.
 As your posts have expired, could you email me?

Regards, Dave Carter.