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date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:35:37 +0100,    group: uk.rec.engines.stationary        back       
OT: assistance needed   
Gentlemen,

I use AVG Free as my anti virus, this morning it wont allow me to load 
updates because A .Bin file is missing, anybody got any ideas what a .Bin 
file is!

Martin P

-- 
martin.perman@btopenworld.com

Semper in Excrementem Altitudo Solus Varius

My Photo's :- 
http://internalfire.com/modules.php?set_albumName=campingstoveman&op=modload&name=PubGallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Also you will find some here http://picasaweb.google.com/campingstoveman
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:35:37 +0100   author:   campingstoveman

Re: assistance needed   
Hi Martin, I have exactly the same problem. It must be something they have done wrong!
I wonder how we can ask them?
-- 
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv

"campingstoveman"  wrote in message news:Oq-dndbDku5AfzrVnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@bt.com...
> Gentlemen,
>
> I use AVG Free as my anti virus, this morning it wont allow me to load updates because A .Bin file is missing, anybody got any 
> ideas what a .Bin file is!
>
> Martin P
>
> -- 
> martin.perman@btopenworld.com
>
> Semper in Excrementem Altitudo Solus Varius
>
> My Photo's :- 
> http://internalfire.com/modules.php?set_albumName=campingstoveman&op=modload&name=PubGallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
>
> Also you will find some here http://picasaweb.google.com/campingstoveman
>
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:58:09 +0100   author:   Dave Croft

Re: assistance needed   
> "campingstoveman"  wrote in message news:Oq-dndbDku5AfzrVnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@bt.com...
>> Gentlemen,
>> I use AVG Free as my anti virus, this morning it wont allow me to load updates because A .Bin file is missing, anybody got any 
>> ideas what a .Bin file is!
>> Martin P

"Dave Croft"  wrote in message news:6gq7h9Fh2hvkU1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Martin, I have exactly the same problem. It must be something they have done wrong!
> I wonder how we can ask them?
> Dave Croft

 information at http://freeforum.avg.com/list.php?12
The third entry down & a couple of other mentions lower down..
-- 
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:17:18 +0100   author:   Dave Croft

Re: OT: assistance needed   
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:35:37 +0100, campingstoveman wrote:

> I use AVG Free as my anti virus, 

I dumped AVG free after a short play with v8. You do know that when you do 
a search it wanders of to the internet and downloads *all* the returned 
search results to make sure they are "safe" just in case you click on one. 
This action added about 500MB to my downloads in the month it was active. 
You can turn it off but you have to jump through hoops to do it if you 
don't want nagging "you are not fully protected" messages. I also found 
that AVG was really slowing down the loading of files into applications.

I now use Avast! also free for home use, does the business(*) and if you 
have multiple machines you can get it to email you when it finds a nasty. 
I don't think AVG can do that. Avast! doesn't appreciably slow down the 
loading of files either. The one thing I haven't found is scheduler to set 
up a regular complete system scan, but as pretty much everything passing 
through or on the machine is checked that probably isn't required once 
you've done an initial complete scan.

(*) Picked up the Funweb Products adware/malware that AVG hadn't.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:58:44 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: assistance needed   
"Dave Croft"  wrote in message news:6gq8l7Fgt49hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "campingstoveman"  wrote in message news:Oq-dndbDku5AfzrVnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@bt.com...
>>> Gentlemen,
>>> I use AVG Free as my anti virus, this morning it wont allow me to load updates because A .Bin file is missing, anybody got any 
>>> ideas what a .Bin file is!
>>> Martin P
>
> "Dave Croft"  wrote in message news:6gq7h9Fh2hvkU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi Martin, I have exactly the same problem. It must be something they have done wrong!
>> I wonder how we can ask them?
>> Dave Croft
>
> information at http://freeforum.avg.com/list.php?12
> The third entry down & a couple of other mentions lower down..
> Dave Croft

They seem to have fixed it!! If you go to the AVG site and upgrade the fault will be cleared.
-- 
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:53:36 +0100   author:   Dave Croft

Re: OT: assistance needed   
Gentlemen,

Like Dave I found a fix via a Yahoo forum and now running ok again.
Thanks for thoughts.

Martin P
"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.k5r2xw0.pminews@srv1.howhill.net...
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:35:37 +0100, campingstoveman wrote:
>
>> I use AVG Free as my anti virus,
>
> I dumped AVG free after a short play with v8. You do know that when you do
> a search it wanders of to the internet and downloads *all* the returned
> search results to make sure they are "safe" just in case you click on one.
> This action added about 500MB to my downloads in the month it was active.
> You can turn it off but you have to jump through hoops to do it if you
> don't want nagging "you are not fully protected" messages. I also found
> that AVG was really slowing down the loading of files into applications.
>
> I now use Avast! also free for home use, does the business(*) and if you
> have multiple machines you can get it to email you when it finds a nasty.
> I don't think AVG can do that. Avast! doesn't appreciably slow down the
> loading of files either. The one thing I haven't found is scheduler to set
> up a regular complete system scan, but as pretty much everything passing
> through or on the machine is checked that probably isn't required once
> you've done an initial complete scan.
>
> (*) Picked up the Funweb Products adware/malware that AVG hadn't.
>
> -- 
> Cheers
> Dave.
>
>
>
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:51:52 +0100   author:   campingstoveman

Re: assistance needed   
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:53:36 +0100, "Dave  Croft"
 finished tucking into their plate of
fish, chips and mushy peas. Wiping their mouths, they swiggged the
last of their cup of tea, paid the bill and wrote::

>
>"Dave Croft"  wrote in message news:6gq8l7Fgt49hU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "campingstoveman"  wrote in message news:Oq-dndbDku5AfzrVnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@bt.com...
>>>> Gentlemen,
>>>> I use AVG Free as my anti virus, this morning it wont allow me to load updates because A .Bin file is missing, anybody got any 
>>>> ideas what a .Bin file is!
>>>> Martin P
>>
>> "Dave Croft"  wrote in message news:6gq7h9Fh2hvkU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Hi Martin, I have exactly the same problem. It must be something they have done wrong!
>>> I wonder how we can ask them?
>>> Dave Croft
>>
>> information at http://freeforum.avg.com/list.php?12
>> The third entry down & a couple of other mentions lower down..
>> Dave Croft
>
>They seem to have fixed it!! If you go to the AVG site and upgrade the fault will be cleared.

I did a restart last night - that cleared it, too!

Brian L Dominic

Web Site: http://www.brianscanalpages.co.uk

Newsgroup readers should note that the reply-to address is NOT read:
To email me, please send to brian(dot)dominic(at)tiscali(dot)co(dot)uk
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:57:44 +0100   author:   Brian Dominic

Re: assistance needed   
short for binary?
sam


"campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
news:Oq-dndbDku5AfzrVnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@bt.com...
> Gentlemen,
>
> I use AVG Free as my anti virus, this morning it wont allow me to load 
> updates because A .Bin file is missing, anybody got any ideas what a .Bin 
> file is!
>
> Martin P
>
> -- 
> martin.perman@btopenworld.com
>
> Semper in Excrementem Altitudo Solus Varius
>
> My Photo's :- 
> http://internalfire.com/modules.php?set_albumName=campingstoveman&op=modload&name=PubGallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
>
> Also you will find some here http://picasaweb.google.com/campingstoveman
>
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:49:34 -0400   author:   SAMMMM

Re: OT: assistance needed   
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:51:52 +0100, campingstoveman wrote:

>> I dumped AVG free after a short play with v8. You do know that when you 
>> do a search it wanders of to the internet and downloads *all* the 
>> returned search results to make sure they are "safe" just in case you 
>> click on one. This action added about 500MB to my downloads in the 
>> month it was active.
>
> Like Dave I found a fix via a Yahoo forum and now running ok again.

Fix for what? The broken auto update or for this stupid internet bandwidth 
and server resource wasting "feature" of AVG on search results pages?

This "i'll check every link on a serach results page just in case" really 
isn't very net friendly. Popular sites that are high up on results pages 
get clobbered by millions of AVG users checking for nasties "just in 
case". By all means down load and check a page when the user asks to look 
at it but not before. I guess AVG has got so slow now that users wouldn't 
accept the delay that would be caused.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:31:56 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: OT: assistance needed   
Not wishing to start a major discussion on the subject, AVG Free does 
exactly what I want it to do for nothing and certainly does not slow up my 
computer and as to the "fix" its a generic term to describe that I had 
sorted the problem.

Martin P
"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.k5rz183.pminews@srv1.howhill.net...
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:51:52 +0100, campingstoveman wrote:
>
>>> I dumped AVG free after a short play with v8. You do know that when you
>>> do a search it wanders of to the internet and downloads *all* the
>>> returned search results to make sure they are "safe" just in case you
>>> click on one. This action added about 500MB to my downloads in the
>>> month it was active.
>>
>> Like Dave I found a fix via a Yahoo forum and now running ok again.
>
> Fix for what? The broken auto update or for this stupid internet bandwidth
> and server resource wasting "feature" of AVG on search results pages?
>
> This "i'll check every link on a serach results page just in case" really
> isn't very net friendly. Popular sites that are high up on results pages
> get clobbered by millions of AVG users checking for nasties "just in
> case". By all means down load and check a page when the user asks to look
> at it but not before. I guess AVG has got so slow now that users wouldn't
> accept the delay that would be caused.
>
> -- 
> Cheers
> Dave.
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:26:35 +0100   author:   campingstoveman

Re: OT: assistance needed   
I've used AVG free on every computer I've had except the latest one which 
had Norton 360 "bundled" in the package from P*- *orld. When it's 
subscription runs out in November I will go back to AVG. I have never had a 
problem with it. Unlike Norton, which urges me to download the latest 
version free, which I have done 3 times now and every time it tells me that 
the files are corrupt. Roll on November!!!
"campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
news:87Odnf3Kf92WdDTVnZ2dnUVZ8j2dnZ2d@bt.com...
> Not wishing to start a major discussion on the subject, AVG Free does 
> exactly what I want it to do for nothing and certainly does not slow up my 
> computer and as to the "fix" its a generic term to describe that I had 
> sorted the problem.
>
> Martin P
> "Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
> news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.k5rz183.pminews@srv1.howhill.net...
>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:51:52 +0100, campingstoveman wrote:
>>
>>>> I dumped AVG free after a short play with v8. You do know that when you
>>>> do a search it wanders of to the internet and downloads *all* the
>>>> returned search results to make sure they are "safe" just in case you
>>>> click on one. This action added about 500MB to my downloads in the
>>>> month it was active.
>>>
>>> Like Dave I found a fix via a Yahoo forum and now running ok again.
>>
>> Fix for what? The broken auto update or for this stupid internet 
>> bandwidth
>> and server resource wasting "feature" of AVG on search results pages?
>>
>> This "i'll check every link on a serach results page just in case" really
>> isn't very net friendly. Popular sites that are high up on results pages
>> get clobbered by millions of AVG users checking for nasties "just in
>> case". By all means down load and check a page when the user asks to look
>> at it but not before. I guess AVG has got so slow now that users wouldn't
>> accept the delay that would be caused.
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:30:56 +0100   author:   Charles Hamilton

Re: OT: assistance needed   
On 19 Aug, 08:30, "Charles Hamilton"  wrote:
> I've used AVG free on every computer I've had except the latest one which
> had Norton 360 "bundled" in the package from P*- *orld. When it's
> subscription runs out in November I will go back to AVG. I have never had a
> problem with it. Unlike Norton, which urges me to download the latest
> version free, which I have done 3 times now and every time it tells me that
> the files are corrupt. Roll on November!!!"campingstoveman"  wrote in message
>
> news:87Odnf3Kf92WdDTVnZ2dnUVZ8j2dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > Not wishing to start a major discussion on the subject, AVG Free does
> > exactly what I want it to do for nothing and certainly does not slow up my
> > computer and as to the "fix" its a generic term to describe that I had
> > sorted the problem.
>
> > Martin P
> > "Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
> >news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.k5rz183.pminews@srv1.howhill.net...
> >> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:51:52 +0100, campingstoveman wrote:
>
> >>>> I dumped AVG free after a short play with v8. You do know that when you
> >>>> do a search it wanders of to the internet and downloads *all* the
> >>>> returned search results to make sure they are "safe" just in case you
> >>>> click on one. This action added about 500MB to my downloads in the
> >>>> month it was active.
>
> >>> Like Dave I found a fix via a Yahoo forum and now running ok again.
>
> >> Fix for what? The broken auto update or for this stupid internet
> >> bandwidth
> >> and server resource wasting "feature" of AVG on search results pages?
>
> >> This "i'll check every link on a serach results page just in case" really
> >> isn't very net friendly. Popular sites that are high up on results pages
> >> get clobbered by millions of AVG users checking for nasties "just in
> >> case". By all means down load and check a page when the user asks to look
> >> at it but not before. I guess AVG has got so slow now that users wouldn't
> >> accept the delay that would be caused.
>
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Dave.

You might be advised to use the time until November researching how to
get rid of Norton!  It is the most invidious piece of software I have
ever come across. It seems to put hooks all over and as fast as you
remove one another comes to light.
date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:00:11 -0700 (PDT)   author:   g6zru

Re: OT: assistance needed   
"g6zru"  wrote in message 
news:16ec9cb6-6fce-4ef2-9a58-b0e4d5de9731@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> You might be advised to use the time until November researching how to
> get rid of Norton!  It is the most invidious piece of software I have
> ever come across. It seems to put hooks all over and as fast as you
> remove one another comes to light.

  You'll have to download the Norton removal tool from

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/norton2008.nsf/docid/2007082908475279?Open&docid=2003022510471206

 because add and remove programs won't get it all

    Tom
date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:07:26 +0100   author:   Tom

Re: OT: assistance needed   
On Aug 20, 9:07 am, "Tom"  wrote:>   You'll have to
download the Norton removal tool from
>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/norton2008.nsf/docid/20070829084...
>
>  because add and remove programs won't get it all
>
>     Tom

Even that tool doesn't get rid of everything, you have to delete both
Symantec and Norton folders in "Program Files", and there are also
items in the Registry that need removal.

AVG paid-for is OK, but a pain in the bum to use.

Peter
date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Listerdiesel

Re: OT: assistance needed   
Dave Liquorice wrote (snip):

> 
> I dumped AVG free after a short play with v8. You do know that when you do 
> a search it wanders of to the internet and downloads *all* the returned 
> search results to make sure they are "safe" just in case you click on one. 
> This action added about 500MB to my downloads in the month it was active. 



Noted this with interest, I hadn't realised that's what it was doing - 
not only is it a ridiculous waste of bandwidth, but even the most 
innocent of google searches can throw up sites which you wouldn't want 
to click on but will now presumably be logged as having visited.

I have used AVG on several machines for some years after getting fed up 
with Norton's increasingly bloated offerings and I am loth to change, so 
I was pleased to see what appears to be a simple way of disabling this 
unwelcome 'feature'

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=2226.0

Haven't tried it myself yet but it sounds promising.

Nick H
date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:31:57 +0100   author:   Nick H

Re: OT: assistance needed   
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:31:57 +0100, Nick H wrote:

> Noted this with interest, I hadn't realised that's what it was doing - 
> not only is it a ridiculous waste of bandwidth, but even the most 
> innocent of google searches can throw up sites which you wouldn't want 
> to click on but will now presumably be logged as having visited.

The latter could be interesting if some one looked through you cache. AIUI 
it only loads the base page it doesn't follow any links or graphics etc 
but all the same.

> I was pleased to see what appears to be a simple way of disabling this 
> unwelcome 'feature'

There are several ways of disabling it, the obvious one in AVG produces a 
nag screen and unhappy icon in the system tray. You can turn off the 
helper in your browser but why should you have to mess with a different 
programs settings to correct a failing in another? You can 
uninstall/reinstall or apply a magic incantation from the command line 
without uninstalling I think. What ever far to many hoops for an ordinary 
punter to have to jump through.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:49:06 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: OT: assistance needed   
"Nick H"  wrote in message 
news:6i7ovdFpdk16U1@mid.individual.net...

> I was pleased to see what appears to be a simple way of disabling this 
> unwelcome 'feature'
>
> http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=2226.0
>
> Haven't tried it myself yet but it sounds promising.
>

I have been annoyed by this "feature" too. I followed the instructions (took 
10 seconds) and it's sorted now, so thanks for posting
date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:39:47 +0100   author:   Tom

Re: OT: assistance needed   
Dave Liquorice wrote (snip):-
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:31:57 +0100, Nick H wrote:
> 
>> Noted this with interest, I hadn't realised that's what it was doing - 
>> not only is it a ridiculous waste of bandwidth, but even the most 
>> innocent of google searches can throw up sites which you wouldn't want 
>> to click on but will now presumably be logged as having visited.
> 
> The latter could be interesting if some one looked through you cache. AIUI 
> it only loads the base page it doesn't follow any links or graphics etc 
> but all the same.
> 


Perhaps I am being excessively paranoid, but I was thinking more of 
one's IP address appearing on server logs - I don't particularly relish 
the thought of special branch arriving at the front door enquiring as to 
why I visited a site (probably set up by themselves) concerning the 
explosive properties of chapati flour and H2O2 when all I was doing was 
googling Indian cookery!

Of course the government's web crawlers will now pick up on that comment 
so I'm probably due a visit anyway.

Nick H
date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:47:48 +0100   author:   Nick H

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