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A bit pricey at nearly £50k, but there, new ones are uncommon fifty years 
after the end of production.

Wonder who'll end up with it?

regards,

Kim Siddorn

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:24:33 +0100, "Kim Siddorn" 
wrote:

>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280251492389
>
>A bit pricey at nearly £50k, but there, new ones are uncommon fifty years 
>after the end of production.
>
>Wonder who'll end up with it?
>
>regards,
>
>Kim Siddorn
>
>

Presumably whoever does buy it will have to spend the same sort of money again
getting it zero timed, it cannot fly as it is without a CofA.

Peter
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peterforbes@prepair.co.uk
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Peter A Forbes wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:24:33 +0100, "Kim Siddorn" 
> wrote:
> 
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280251492389
>>
>> A bit pricey at nearly £50k, but there, new ones are uncommon fifty years 
>> after the end of production.
>>
>> Wonder who'll end up with it?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Kim Siddorn
>>
>>
> 
> Presumably whoever does buy it will have to spend the same sort of money again
> getting it zero timed, it cannot fly as it is without a CofA.
> 
> Peter


We locate the odd bearing for vintage aircraft restorers, many of which 
are old surplus stock well out of grease life and with no paperwork. I'm 
told these can be accepted as the aircraft are operated under a CAA 
'permit to fly' rather than full certificate of airworthiness. I presume 
this arrangement would equally relax the requirements for an engine. I 
still don't imagine it would be a trivial or inexpensive matter to 
recommission such a thing, but perhaps not quite as daunting as it might 
first appear.

BTW. I believe the Merlin 134 is a bit specialised being fitted only to 
D-H Sea Hornet - don't know if it's the left or right hand rotation one 
though.

NHH

Nick H wrote:
> Peter A Forbes wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:24:33 +0100, "Kim Siddorn" 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280251492389
>>>
>>> A bit pricey at nearly £50k, but there, new ones are uncommon fifty 
>>> years after the end of production.
>>>
>>> Wonder who'll end up with it?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Kim Siddorn
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Presumably whoever does buy it will have to spend the same sort of 
>> money again
>> getting it zero timed, it cannot fly as it is without a CofA.
>>
>> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> We locate the odd bearing for vintage aircraft restorers, many of which 
> are old surplus stock well out of grease life and with no paperwork. I'm 
> told these can be accepted as the aircraft are operated under a CAA 
> 'permit to fly' rather than full certificate of airworthiness. I presume 
> this arrangement would equally relax the requirements for an engine. I 
> still don't imagine it would be a trivial or inexpensive matter to 
> recommission such a thing, but perhaps not quite as daunting as it might 
> first appear.
> 
> BTW. I believe the Merlin 134 is a bit specialised being fitted only to 
> D-H Sea Hornet - don't know if it's the left or right hand rotation one 
> though.
> 
> NHH
Turning to "British Piston Aero-engines and Their Aircraft" (Alec 
Lumsden, Airlife Publishing, 1994) it seems the mark 134 was the RH 
rotation version. It was manufactured c.1950 specifically for the 
Hornet/ Sea Hornet. The 130-135 series Merlins for the Hornet had a 
variety of differences from the usual Merlins such as reversed coolant 
flow, down-draught air intake and a more streamlined profile.
I wonder what "Brand new condition" actually means. The engine in the 
photographs seems to be partly dismantled.
Regards
Peter

I reckon he's found it in a crate & took the lids off for a looksee before 
actually believing his good fortune! I'd have thought the BoB F would have 
grabbed it if it could be flown in one of their aircraft.

regards,

Kim Siddorn

"Nick H"  wrote in message 
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>
> We locate the odd bearing for vintage aircraft restorers, many of which 
> are old surplus stock well out of grease life and with no paperwork. I'm 
> told these can be accepted as the aircraft are operated under a CAA 
> 'permit to fly' rather than full certificate of airworthiness. I presume 
> this arrangement would equally relax the requirements for an engine. I 
> still don't imagine it would be a trivial or inexpensive matter to 
> recommission such a thing, but perhaps not quite as daunting as it might 
> first appear.

The 'permit to fly' scheme is administered by the Popular Flying 
Association. (now called the Light Aircraft Association) I was one of their 
inspectors a few years ago.

P to F aircraft eligibility was controlled and mainly concerned homebuilt 
aircraft, limitations on weight and engine power also apply, it was about 
200BHP IIRC - clearly a Merlin wouldn't qualify! The warbirds come under the 
wing of the CAA and 'special category' certificates of airworthiness.

One of the problems associated with an engine like this on the e-bay could 
be a lack paperwork for traceability of components - it could prove very 
troublesome convincing the CAA that the engine is fit for flight, even after 
rebuild.

I suspect it'll end up in a tractor pull machine :-(

Julian.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:24:33 +0100, "Kim Siddorn"
 wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280251492389
>
>A bit pricey at nearly £50k, but there, new ones are uncommon fifty years 
>after the end of production.

It was up there a week ago, same price, and didn't sell.

The bloke down past Weston way has shedfuls of the things. Merlins
aren't that uncommon. AFAIK, this is 20k of engine tops, as it's in need
of overhaul and isn't a popular mark. Amongst the three or four racing
warbird engine shops in Leftpondia, there's still a good trade in the
things.

Kim,

The ironic thing about B o B Merlin engines is that they are rebuilt and 
serviced in America but the last flying Me 109G Daimler Benz engine was 
rebuilt by Rolls Royce.

Martin P

"Kim Siddorn"  wrote in message 
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>I reckon he's found it in a crate & took the lids off for a looksee before 
>actually believing his good fortune! I'd have thought the BoB F would have 
>grabbed it if it could be flown in one of their aircraft.
>
> regards,
>
> Kim Siddorn
>