Pictures up at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/die...e2008Menu1.htm

ot:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/A...e2008Menu1.htm

2 pages, about 70 pictures on the thumbnail menus.

Peter
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:47:56 +0100, Peter A Forbes  wrote:

>Pictures up at:
>
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/die...e2008Menu1.htm
>
>ot:
>
>http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/A...e2008Menu1.htm
>
>2 pages, about 70 pictures on the thumbnail menus.
>
>Peter


I hate it when I copy things across and they've been truncated!

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/AstlePark2008/Astle2008Menu1.htm
or:
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/AstlePark2008/Astle2008Menu1.htm

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Impressed with the pictures, Peter, but after a break of 5 years can't help 
thinking that the rally ain't as good as it used to be. Personally my 
highlights were seeing one of my old engines in the line-up (Crossley 
1040),seeing my old  National AH1 at the museum and chatting to the 
Venerable Viking at the Museum. There were some very nice engines on the 
field but I think its probably a good time to change it's name to the 500 
engine Rally!! Nice to see that some people can still cart big machines to 
rallies despite the astronomical costs of fuel etc. Most impressed with the 
"Gaffer" ( The big Allan) and the 2 stroke Crossley gen set ( no mistaking 
when that beast was fired up!!!)
"Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:47:56 +0100, Peter A Forbes  
> wrote:
>
>>Pictures up at:
>>
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/die...e2008Menu1.htm
>>
>>ot:
>>
>>http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/A...e2008Menu1.htm
>>
>>2 pages, about 70 pictures on the thumbnail menus.
>>
>>Peter
>
>
> I hate it when I copy things across and they've been truncated!
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/AstlePark2008/Astle2008Menu1.htm
> or:
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/AstlePark2008/Astle2008Menu1.htm
>
> --
> Peter & Rita Forbes
> Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:09:18 +0100, "Charles Hamilton"
 wrote:

>Impressed with the pictures, Peter, but after a break of 5 years can't help 
>thinking that the rally ain't as good as it used to be. Personally my 
>highlights were seeing one of my old engines in the line-up (Crossley 
>1040),seeing my old  National AH1 at the museum and chatting to the 
>Venerable Viking at the Museum. There were some very nice engines on the 
>field but I think its probably a good time to change it's name to the 500 
>engine Rally!! Nice to see that some people can still cart big machines to 
>rallies despite the astronomical costs of fuel etc. Most impressed with the 
>"Gaffer" ( The big Allan) and the 2 stroke Crossley gen set ( no mistaking 
>when that beast was fired up!!!)

My own view was that it doesn't have the same 'punch' as it used to, but as
Martin P pointed out, the high cost of travelling now must impact on some
exhibitors, even though both you and David McCreath (and others) travelled far
longer distances than we did.

Peter
--
Peter A Forbes
Prepair Ltd, Rushden, UK
peterforbes@prepair.co.uk
http://www.prepair.co.uk
http://www.prepair.eu

Great pics, thanks. Particularly liked Webster inverted, S-T 'K', Kim's 
S-T flat twin, Farymann diesel. Nice to see a Curwen replica Hartop 
(they surely have their own history now and there's no need to 
'pretend') correctly identified and I hadn't realised what an attractive 
little engine the Alyn Foundry 'Colt' is.

Nick H

Almost seems not worth me putting my pics up :-((

Martin P
"Nick H"  wrote in message 
news:6c9jpfF3fnf49U1@mid.individual.net...
> Great pics, thanks. Particularly liked Webster inverted, S-T 'K', Kim's 
> S-T flat twin, Farymann diesel. Nice to see a Curwen replica Hartop (they 
> surely have their own history now and there's no need to 'pretend') 
> correctly identified and I hadn't realised what an attractive little 
> engine the Alyn Foundry 'Colt' is.
>
> Nick H

I think that the "Wild and Wooly Woolseley" man came a bit further than 
either Me or David McC. I also spotted Craig Morrison and his parents, they 
come from near Turriff which is 30 miles north of Aberdeen!!(Not far short 
of 400 miles by my reckoning)I would say it's a bit of a hike for Andy 
Pethick too all the way from Liskeard!.(300+ miles I would guess.) Would be 
cheating to count the Dutchmen, they will have actually driven less than me! 
( A measly 140 miles.) I suppose The "Furthest from Home" award should go to 
Wayne Timms, but he didn't actually travel from Home!! Personally my  award 
would go to Mark Drake.( I hope you're reading this lad.) I sincerely hope 
he doesn't mind me saying this but the adversity he deals with to pursue his 
hobby makes ours pale into insignificance.
"Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
news:cjvu5497ua748ljj3d5qis2f1o288k39lr@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:09:18 +0100, "Charles Hamilton"
>  wrote:
>
>>Impressed with the pictures, Peter, but after a break of 5 years can't 
>>help
>>thinking that the rally ain't as good as it used to be. Personally my
>>highlights were seeing one of my old engines in the line-up (Crossley
>>1040),seeing my old  National AH1 at the museum and chatting to the
>>Venerable Viking at the Museum. There were some very nice engines on the
>>field but I think its probably a good time to change it's name to the 500
>>engine Rally!! Nice to see that some people can still cart big machines to
>>rallies despite the astronomical costs of fuel etc. Most impressed with 
>>the
>>"Gaffer" ( The big Allan) and the 2 stroke Crossley gen set ( no mistaking
>>when that beast was fired up!!!)
>
> My own view was that it doesn't have the same 'punch' as it used to, but 
> as
> Martin P pointed out, the high cost of travelling now must impact on some
> exhibitors, even though both you and David McCreath (and others) travelled 
> far
> longer distances than we did.
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter A Forbes
> Prepair Ltd, Rushden, UK
> peterforbes@prepair.co.uk
> http://www.prepair.co.uk
> http://www.prepair.eu

I agree about the unusual. You can be sure of a cognoscenti audience at 
Astle Park.

I missed a Johnson/Marvil missing link by a few minutes. Seized but only 
£20.

regards,

Kim Siddorn

Teach a child to be polite and courteous and you create an adult that can't 
merge a car into faster traffic.


"campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
news:HuOdnQ_8-5fXWMLVnZ2dnUVZ8qLinZ2d@bt.com...
> Almost seems not worth me putting my pics up :-((
>
> Martin P
> "Nick H"  wrote in message 
> news:6c9jpfF3fnf49U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Great pics, thanks. Particularly liked Webster inverted, S-T 'K', Kim's 
>> S-T flat twin, Farymann diesel. Nice to see a Curwen replica Hartop (they 
>> surely have their own history now and there's no need to 'pretend') 
>> correctly identified and I hadn't realised what an attractive little 
>> engine the Alyn Foundry 'Colt' is.
>>
>> Nick H
>
>

My pics of Astle at following.

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/home

martin p
"Kim Siddorn"  wrote in message 
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>I agree about the unusual. You can be sure of a cognoscenti audience at 
>Astle Park.
>
> I missed a Johnson/Marvil missing link by a few minutes. Seized but only 
> £20.
>
> regards,
>
> Kim Siddorn
>
> Teach a child to be polite and courteous and you create an adult that 
> can't merge a car into faster traffic.
>
>
> "campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
> news:HuOdnQ_8-5fXWMLVnZ2dnUVZ8qLinZ2d@bt.com...
>> Almost seems not worth me putting my pics up :-((
>>
>> Martin P
>> "Nick H"  wrote in message 
>> news:6c9jpfF3fnf49U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Great pics, thanks. Particularly liked Webster inverted, S-T 'K', Kim's 
>>> S-T flat twin, Farymann diesel. Nice to see a Curwen replica Hartop 
>>> (they surely have their own history now and there's no need to 
>>> 'pretend') correctly identified and I hadn't realised what an attractive 
>>> little engine the Alyn Foundry 'Colt' is.
>>>
>>> Nick H
>>
>>
>
>

Try this one instead, its late and I'm tired.

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/campingstoveman/AstlePark1000EngineRally2008

Martin P

"campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
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> My pics of Astle at following.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/home
>
> martin p
> "Kim Siddorn"  wrote in message 
> news:6cala7F3f0jupU1@mid.individual.net...
>>I agree about the unusual. You can be sure of a cognoscenti audience at 
>>Astle Park.
>>
>> I missed a Johnson/Marvil missing link by a few minutes. Seized but only 
>> £20.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Kim Siddorn
>>
>> Teach a child to be polite and courteous and you create an adult that 
>> can't merge a car into faster traffic.
>>
>>
>> "campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
>> news:HuOdnQ_8-5fXWMLVnZ2dnUVZ8qLinZ2d@bt.com...
>>> Almost seems not worth me putting my pics up :-((
>>>
>>> Martin P
>>> "Nick H"  wrote in message 
>>> news:6c9jpfF3fnf49U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Great pics, thanks. Particularly liked Webster inverted, S-T 'K', Kim's 
>>>> S-T flat twin, Farymann diesel. Nice to see a Curwen replica Hartop 
>>>> (they surely have their own history now and there's no need to 
>>>> 'pretend') correctly identified and I hadn't realised what an 
>>>> attractive little engine the Alyn Foundry 'Colt' is.
>>>>
>>>> Nick H
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks Martin, it is appreciated by those of us who weren't there.

A couple of questions:- do you know what the rather incomplete 
air-cooled open crank engine in picture 9 is and likewise the inverted 
vertical in 10 and 11? Is the latter perhaps another home made job - I 
could really have put my foot in it there if it is some ultra rare original!

Nick H

I'm sure 10 and 11 was labelled a Crossley as for 9 I am very annoyed with 
myself as I spent a lot of time discussing this with the owner as I have one 
very similar and I know it is a Carrette but mine is water cooled but 
otherwise the same, his was labelled as I think something like a schroener!

Martin P

"Nick H"  wrote in message 
news:6cbq0vF3fm756U1@mid.individual.net...
> Thanks Martin, it is appreciated by those of us who weren't there.
>
> A couple of questions:- do you know what the rather incomplete air-cooled 
> open crank engine in picture 9 is and likewise the inverted vertical in 10 
> and 11? Is the latter perhaps another home made job - I could really have 
> put my foot in it there if it is some ultra rare original!
>
> Nick H
>

campingstoveman wrote:
> I'm sure 10 and 11 was labelled a Crossley as for 9 I am very annoyed with 
> myself as I spent a lot of time discussing this with the owner as I have one 
> very similar and I know it is a Carrette but mine is water cooled but 
> otherwise the same, his was labelled as I think something like a schroener!
> 
> Martin P
>

I think I know the company you mean, I believe Schoener was the German 
toy manufacturer responsible for the engine upon which the Polly 
models/Bruce Engineering 'AGE'is based:-
http://www.pollymodelengineering.co.uk/sections/stationary-engines/our-own-engines/index.asp

As for the inverted vertical - that flywheel has a very Petter M look 
about it and I'm sure I can see a Lister D carb nestling above the fuel 
tank! It rather reminded me of this fine confection built around an old 
pedestal grinder base which appeared at last year's show:-
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2740035670050338362ViiFga

Nick H

Nick H wrote (snip):
> 
> 
> 
> campingstoveman wrote:
>> I'm sure 10 and 11 was labelled a Crossley as for 9 I am very annoyed 
>> with myself as I spent a lot of time discussing this with the owner as 
>> I have one very similar and I know it is a Carrette but mine is water 
>> cooled but otherwise the same, his was labelled as I think something 
>> like a schroener!
>>
>> Martin P
>>
> 
> I think I know the company you mean, I believe Schoener was the German 
> toy manufacturer responsible for the engine upon which the Polly 
> models/Bruce Engineering 'AGE'is based:-
> http://www.pollymodelengineering.co.uk/sections/stationary-engines/our-own-engines/index.asp 
> 
> 

Just noticed I photographed the very same engine last year - memory, 
what memory!?
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2611699570050338362Zvpedp

Nick H

Gentlemen,

If you go to this site you will see Bolnhurst Rally where I went on Sunday.
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/campingstoveman/BolnhurstRally2008
Martin P
"campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
news:QdGdnRmZT5hcvv3VnZ2dnUVZ8uydnZ2d@bt.com...
> Try this one instead, its late and I'm tired.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/campingstoveman/AstlePark1000EngineRally2008
>
> Martin P
>
> "campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
> news:8uednbZe9Kcbv_3VnZ2dnUVZ8qPinZ2d@bt.com...
>> My pics of Astle at following.
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/home
>>
>> martin p
>> "Kim Siddorn"  wrote in message 
>> news:6cala7F3f0jupU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>I agree about the unusual. You can be sure of a cognoscenti audience at 
>>>Astle Park.
>>>
>>> I missed a Johnson/Marvil missing link by a few minutes. Seized but only 
>>> £20.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Kim Siddorn
>>>
>>> Teach a child to be polite and courteous and you create an adult that 
>>> can't merge a car into faster traffic.
>>>
>>>
>>> "campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
>>> news:HuOdnQ_8-5fXWMLVnZ2dnUVZ8qLinZ2d@bt.com...
>>>> Almost seems not worth me putting my pics up :-((
>>>>
>>>> Martin P
>>>> "Nick H"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:6c9jpfF3fnf49U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Great pics, thanks. Particularly liked Webster inverted, S-T 'K', 
>>>>> Kim's S-T flat twin, Farymann diesel. Nice to see a Curwen replica 
>>>>> Hartop (they surely have their own history now and there's no need to 
>>>>> 'pretend') correctly identified and I hadn't realised what an 
>>>>> attractive little engine the Alyn Foundry 'Colt' is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick H
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:15:37 +0100, "campingstoveman"
 wrote:

>Gentlemen,
>
>If you go to this site you will see Bolnhurst Rally where I went on Sunday.
>http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/campingstoveman/BolnhurstRally2008
>Martin P

Lister D generators pull at the wallet somewhat don't they? :-))

Peter
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Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
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http://www.oldengine.co.uk

Will have to get my digit out and get my Lister D Bruston set up and 
running.

Martin P

"Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:15:37 +0100, "campingstoveman"
>  wrote:
>
>>Gentlemen,
>>
>>If you go to this site you will see Bolnhurst Rally where I went on 
>>Sunday.
>>http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/campingstoveman/BolnhurstRally2008
>>Martin P
>
> Lister D generators pull at the wallet somewhat don't they? :-))
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter & Rita Forbes
> Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:45:58 +0100, "campingstoveman"
 wrote:

>Will have to get my digit out and get my Lister D Bruston set up and 
>running.
>
>Martin P

Tell me more.... :-))

Peter
--
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Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
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Lister D with inline Bruston Genny with radiator on top just like the one at 
Astle Park except mine has option rectangular tank for longer running plus 
starter solenoid (I think). Complete except for supply board but then not 
all had them as some fitted to wall instead of engine.
Just needs some magic and time from me, when I finish M it will be next 
project.

Martin P
"Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:45:58 +0100, "campingstoveman"
>  wrote:
>
>>Will have to get my digit out and get my Lister D Bruston set up and
>>running.
>>
>>Martin P
>
> Tell me more.... :-))
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter & Rita Forbes
> Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk

"campingstoveman"  wrote in message 
news:ca6dneQGj_IfmPzVnZ2dnUVZ8rOdnZ2d@bt.com...
> I'm sure 10 and 11 was labelled a Crossley as for 9 I am very annoyed with 
> myself as I spent a lot of time discussing this with the owner as I have 
> one very similar and I know it is a Carrette but mine is water cooled but 
> otherwise the same, his was labelled as I think something like a 
> schroener!
>
> Martin P
>
Picture 10 & 11 were definatley NOT a Crossley, they are of a BITSA circa 
2007. The carb, clearly seen in pic 10 is off a Lister D (though you would 
have spotted that Martin, southern dementure showing again). The flywheel is 
from a Fairbanks and there are also other bits on there as well. The base is 
welded to the vertical cylinder.

(though you would
> have spotted that Martin, southern dementure showing again)

Now come on Andy Humorous southern dementia please.:-))
As for the details of the engine as it did not look like a Lister I did not 
take much interest in it, I only reported what I thought I saw :-))


Martin P

andyengine wrote:

> Picture 10 & 11 were definatley NOT a Crossley, they are of a BITSA circa 
> 2007. The carb, clearly seen in pic 10 is off a Lister D (though you would 
> have spotted that Martin, southern dementure showing again). The flywheel is 
> from a Fairbanks and there are also other bits on there as well. The base is 
> welded to the vertical cylinder. 
> 

Anyone got a picture of the other side?

I like this trend for DIY engines, here's another good one from last 
year (though one might perhaps question the hacking up of a none too 
common Lister VA)
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/33512/2301097510050338362S600x600Q85.jpg



Nick H