Bought a bundle of engine manuals lately, including one for Coborn
engines C3 and C6, apparently printed by K&L Steelfounders and
Engineers Ltd, Letchworth.

Anyone enlighten me ? Or should I just file it in the bin ?

Steve

The engines are quiet rare as air-cooled engines go and they were built in 
Letchworth, not a bad looking engine.

Martin P
"Steve"  wrote in message 
news:d62d38a9-de16-4172-8a67-f4fe6fa6e8b0@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Bought a bundle of engine manuals lately, including one for Coborn
> engines C3 and C6, apparently printed by K&L Steelfounders and
> Engineers Ltd, Letchworth.
>
> Anyone enlighten me ? Or should I just file it in the bin ?
>
> Steve

On 25 Jan, 23:25, "campingstoveman" 
wrote:
> The engines are quiet rare as air-cooled engines go and they were built in
> Letchworth, not a bad looking engine.
>
> Martin P"Steve"  wrote in message
>
> news:d62d38a9-de16-4172-8a67-f4fe6fa6e8b0@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Bought a bundle of engine manuals lately, including one for Coborn
> > engines C3 and C6, apparently printed by K&L Steelfounders and
> > Engineers Ltd, Letchworth.
>
> > Anyone enlighten me ? Or should I just file it in the bin ?
>
> > Steve

Thanks, maybe I should look for an engine to go with the operating
instructions! There is no date on the guff, no mention of power
output, capacity or history. In fact they have managed to write a
perfect operating manual/parts list without mentioning anything else -
though they do refer to it as the Browett-Coborn engine at one point -
and using that as a web search term has at least turned up one hit.
Would this be fairly recent, 60s or 70s ?

Steve

Steve,

The C3 is 3.8 hp and the C6 is 6.1 hp, the engines were built between the 
30s and 60s, usual colour is red, K&L steelfounders took over the Browett 
and Lindley and carried on making the engines. Production ceased in 1963.

Martin P
"Steve"  wrote in message 
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> On 25 Jan, 23:25, "campingstoveman" 
> wrote:
>> The engines are quiet rare as air-cooled engines go and they were built 
>> in
>> Letchworth, not a bad looking engine.
>>
>> Martin P"Steve"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:d62d38a9-de16-4172-8a67-f4fe6fa6e8b0@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Bought a bundle of engine manuals lately, including one for Coborn
>> > engines C3 and C6, apparently printed by K&L Steelfounders and
>> > Engineers Ltd, Letchworth.
>>
>> > Anyone enlighten me ? Or should I just file it in the bin ?
>>
>> > Steve
>
> Thanks, maybe I should look for an engine to go with the operating
> instructions! There is no date on the guff, no mention of power
> output, capacity or history. In fact they have managed to write a
> perfect operating manual/parts list without mentioning anything else -
> though they do refer to it as the Browett-Coborn engine at one point -
> and using that as a web search term has at least turned up one hit.
> Would this be fairly recent, 60s or 70s ?
>
> Steve

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:41:03 -0000, "campingstoveman"
 wrote:

>Steve,
>
>The C3 is 3.8 hp and the C6 is 6.1 hp, the engines were built between the 
>30s and 60s, usual colour is red, K&L steelfounders took over the Browett 
>and Lindley and carried on making the engines. Production ceased in 1963.
>
>Martin P

K&L were part of the 600 group of companies, Kryn & Lahy was the original
company name. They were also involved in the Jones Cranes business on the same
site.

The foundry sub-station was still around in the 1980's, but the Jones Cranes
business went under and the site was sold for the new Post Office centre.

Peter
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"Peter A Forbes"  wrote (snip):-
>
> K&L were part of the 600 group of companies

Originally I believe of No. 600 commercial Road, east London. ISTR reading 
that one George Cohen started out by buying up defunct companies for the 
scrap value of their plant and ended up running a substantial manufacturing 
group which included the Colchester and Harrison machine tool companies - is 
that correct?

Back to the plot - the Coborn/Browett Linley/KL engines are rather 
uninspiring looking fully cowled air-cooled side valve singles, but they 
good deal less common than (say) similar JAP models and I would imagine that 
literature is correspondingly scarce so definitely not a bin job.

Nick H

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:26:42 -0000, "Nick H"  wrote:

>
>"Peter A Forbes"  wrote (snip):-
>>
>> K&L were part of the 600 group of companies
>
>Originally I believe of No. 600 commercial Road, east London. ISTR reading 
>that one George Cohen started out by buying up defunct companies for the 
>scrap value of their plant and ended up running a substantial manufacturing 
>group which included the Colchester and Harrison machine tool companies - is 
>that correct?

Pretty much as I understand it, they were very big in the 1950's and 1960's.

>Back to the plot - the Coborn/Browett Linley/KL engines are rather 
>uninspiring looking fully cowled air-cooled side valve singles, but they 
>good deal less common than (say) similar JAP models and I would imagine that 
>literature is correspondingly scarce so definitely not a bin job.

Yes, they are a fairly typical air-cooled single, but rare enough these days to
be kept in preservation.

>Nick H 
>

Peter
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On 26 Jan, 16:40, Peter A Forbes  wrote:

> The foundry sub-station was still around in the 1980's, but the Jones Cranes
> business went under and the site was sold for the new Post Office centre.

 Ah!  Jones Cranes:  Rust Into Pieces.

http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/Boulton-Paul/?action=view¤t=90ftup.jpg

Regards, Dave Carter.

On Jan 25, 10:43 pm, Steve  wrote:
> Bought a bundle of engine manuals lately, including one for Coborn
> engines C3 and C6, apparently printed by K&L Steelfounders and
> Engineers Ltd, Letchworth.
>
> Anyone enlighten me ? Or should I just file it in the bin ?
>
> Steve

Internal Fire may appreciate a scaned copy for their site. They don't
list anything from Coborn.

John

I've a Coborn C6 for sale on eBay at the moment,
see: 


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COBORN-C6-STATIONARY-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ300194723342QQihZ020QQcategoryZ58177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Phil

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:43:00 -0800 (PST), Steve
 wrote:

>Bought a bundle of engine manuals lately, including one for Coborn
>engines C3 and C6, apparently printed by K&L Steelfounders and
>Engineers Ltd, Letchworth.
>
>Anyone enlighten me ? Or should I just file it in the bin ?
>
>Steve

Hi

I've got a couple of these engines in my collection, both a Coburn and the 
later Browett & Lindley example.

Cheers Paul Visit www.fensvintage.co.uk for show reports & pictures of the 
East Anglian Rally scene

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"Phil"  wrote in message 
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> I've a Coborn C6 for sale on eBay at the moment,
> see:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COBORN-C6-STATIONARY-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ300194723342QQihZ020QQcategoryZ58177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Phil
>

Expected that to sell - though I thought the starting price was pretty much 
all the money. Suppose it just goes to show that its comparitive rarity 
doesn't necessarily mean it will command a premium over the equivalent JAP 
or Villiers.

Nick H

On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:18:33 -0000, "Nick H"  wrote:


>
>Expected that to sell - though I thought the starting price was pretty much 
>all the money. Suppose it just goes to show that its comparitive rarity 
>doesn't necessarily mean it will command a premium over the equivalent JAP 
>or Villiers.
>
>Nick H 
>

Lack of spares availability is probably the reason nobody bid. 

Peter
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"Peter A Forbes"  wrote

>
> Lack of spares availability is probably the reason nobody bid.
>
> Peter

Clearly didn't bother the buyer of the Allan which went for over 8 1/2 K ;-)

Nick H