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date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:29:50 -0600 (MDT),    group: uk.rec.collecting.coins        back       
1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
eBay: http://easyurl.net/Victoria_sovereign
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:29:50 -0600 (MDT)   author:   Ned Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
"Ned" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message 
news:5245ab7b5aaf821e4aefad185e943e4b@pseudo.borked.net...
> eBay: http://easyurl.net/Victoria_sovereign
>

This seller is, IMHO, one of the worst overgraders on ebay and I've thought 
so for some time.

I noticed this coin a few days ago as I have one of the same date, they say 
EF.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Scarce-1858-7-GB-Victoria-Penny-EF_W0QQitemZ180133858612

I say fine at best as it has numerous knocks.

I bought this coin from Spink many years ago and it was graded as almost EF,

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/4/5/5/8/7/webimg/53332794_o.jpg

There is no comparison between the seller's EF and a Spink almost EF.

They claim not be grading experts, they are 100% correct in that claim, even 
allowing for the differences between UK and USA grading they are way out on 
every coin I've looked at.

I'm not a grading expert so it's just my opinion, just like the seller's non 
expert opinion.  Billy
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:05:03 GMT   author:   note.boy

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
"note.boy"  wrote in message 
news:3A4li.30599$_14.9687@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Ned" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message 
> news:5245ab7b5aaf821e4aefad185e943e4b@pseudo.borked.net...
>> eBay: http://easyurl.net/Victoria_sovereign
>>
>
> This seller is, IMHO, one of the worst overgraders on ebay and I've 
> thought so for some time.
>
> I noticed this coin a few days ago as I have one of the same date, they 
> say EF.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Scarce-1858-7-GB-Victoria-Penny-EF_W0QQitemZ180133858612
>
> I say fine at best as it has numerous knocks.
>
> I bought this coin from Spink many years ago and it was graded as almost 
> EF,
>
> http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/4/5/5/8/7/webimg/53332794_o.jpg
>
> There is no comparison between the seller's EF and a Spink almost EF.
>
> They claim not be grading experts, they are 100% correct in that claim, 
> even allowing for the differences between UK and USA grading they are way 
> out on every coin I've looked at.
>
> I'm not a grading expert so it's just my opinion, just like the seller's 
> non expert opinion.  Billy

It always irks me when sellers say they are not grading experts, or know 
nothing about coins, yet feel compelled to give a grade.  I believe it's 
called "leading the witness."

James
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:23:10 -0500   author:   Mr. Jaggers lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
On Jul 11, 12:29 pm, Ned <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>
wrote:
> eBay:http://easyurl.net/Victoria_sovereign

Try these two for size, and see which you'd rather buy for your
money.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Mozambique-8-Coins-Complete-set-Rare-UNC_W0QQitemZ190103788381QQihZ009QQcategoryZ533QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Mozambique-1-Centimo-Aluminium-Extremely-Rare_W0QQitemZ160060451183QQihZ006QQcategoryZ533QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

I bought the 1 centimo UNC for about £12 a couple of years back and
managed to amass the whole set for about £270.

Tola.
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:18:26 -0700   author:   DoomHarvester

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
"DoomHarvester"  wrote in message 
news:1184185106.231204.9890@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 11, 12:29 pm, Ned <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>
wrote:
> eBay:http://easyurl.net/Victoria_sovereign

Try these two for size, and see which you'd rather buy for your
money.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Mozambique-8-Coins-Complete-set-Rare-UNC_W0QQitemZ190103788381QQihZ009QQcategoryZ533QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Mozambique-1-Centimo-Aluminium-Extremely-Rare_W0QQitemZ160060451183QQihZ006QQcategoryZ533QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

I bought the 1 centimo UNC for about £12 a couple of years back and
managed to amass the whole set for about £270.

Tola.

Although it's a rare coin, going by the description, the demand will not be 
all that high.

Similar to the Isle Of Man coins with a mintage figure of 1,000 but a low 
value.  Billy
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:09:05 GMT   author:   note.boy

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
note.boy wrote:
> Similar to the Isle Of Man coins with a mintage figure of 1,000 but a
> low value.  Billy


I wouldn't give $650.00 for the whole country of Mozambique.  :-)

-- 
 ©¿©¬
   ~
Ed Hendricks
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:23:48 -0700   author:   Ed Hendricks

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:23:48 -0700, Ed Hendricks  wrote:
> note.boy wrote:
>> Similar to the Isle Of Man coins with a mintage figure of 1,000 but a
>> low value.  Billy
>
> I wouldn't give $650.00 for the whole country of Mozambique.  :-)

Serious question to those in the know - which sovereigns are worth more
than a pittance more than melt value?  I've got a page for 'em and am
filling them in, but as bullion more than anything.  Any cherry-picking
opportunities out there?

Dave Hinz
date: 12 Jul 2007 03:51:31 GMT   author:   Dave Hinz

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
The message 
from Dave Hinz  contains these words:


> Serious question to those in the know - which sovereigns are worth more
> than a pittance more than melt value?  I've got a page for 'em and am
> filling them in, but as bullion more than anything.  Any cherry-picking
> opportunities out there

1916C?        :-)

-- 
Rod
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:41:06 +0100   author:   Rodney Wakefield

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
In a recent message Dave Hinz  wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:23:48 -0700, Ed Hendricks  wrote:
> > note.boy wrote:
> >> Similar to the Isle Of Man coins with a mintage figure of 1,000 but a
> >> low value.  Billy
> >
> > I wouldn't give $650.00 for the whole country of Mozambique.  :-)
> 
> Serious question to those in the know - which sovereigns are worth more
> than a pittance more than melt value?  I've got a page for 'em and am
> filling them in, but as bullion more than anything.  Any cherry-picking
> opportunities out there?

Try looking at http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/values/sov.html 

-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Children: Pure love contained in soft packages.
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:52:55 +0100   author:   Tony Clayton

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
In article 
Ned <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

Sold for $182.55 (90 GBP)
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:45:30 -0600 (MDT)   author:   Ned Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:52:55 +0100, Tony Clayton  wrote:
> In a recent message Dave Hinz  wrote:
>
>> Serious question to those in the know - which sovereigns are worth more
>> than a pittance more than melt value?  I've got a page for 'em and am
>> filling them in, but as bullion more than anything.  Any cherry-picking
>> opportunities out there?
>
> Try looking at http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/values/sov.html 

Ah, very nice, thanks Tony!  (also - ping me by email about your ebay
thing, I have a theory)

Dave
date: 13 Jul 2007 00:44:08 GMT   author:   Dave Hinz

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:23:48 -0700, Ed Hendricks
>  wrote:
>> note.boy wrote:
>>> Similar to the Isle Of Man coins with a mintage figure of 1,000 but
>>> a low value.  Billy
>>
>> I wouldn't give $650.00 for the whole country of Mozambique.  :-)
>
> Serious question to those in the know - which sovereigns are worth
> more
> than a pittance more than melt value?  I've got a page for 'em and am
> filling them in, but as bullion more than anything.  Any
> cherry-picking
> opportunities out there?
>
> Dave Hinz

Haven't bought any lately, but I do have a 1913 British sovereign (Mint 
State) and a 1965 Isle of Man sovereign (Proof commem) that I only paid a 
pittance more than melt for.  Of course "melt" was only $300 per troy ounce 
when I acquired them.  :-)  Perhaps current pricing for those dates are 
comparable?

-- 
 ©¿©¬
   ~
Ed Hendricks
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:45:49 -0700   author:   Ed Hendricks

Re: 1900M Victoria full gold sovereign   
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:45:49 -0700, Ed Hendricks  wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:

>> Serious question to those in the know - which sovereigns are worth
>> more
>> than a pittance more than melt value?  I've got a page for 'em and am
>> filling them in, but as bullion more than anything.  Any
>> cherry-picking
>> opportunities out there?

> Haven't bought any lately, but I do have a 1913 British sovereign (Mint 
> State) and a 1965 Isle of Man sovereign (Proof commem) that I only paid a 
> pittance more than melt for.  Of course "melt" was only $300 per troy ounce 
> when I acquired them.  :-)  Perhaps current pricing for those dates are 
> comparable?

I'd be happy to double your money, friend.  My email is real ;)

Dave "One new sovereign per paycheck, I think, is a good plan" Hinz
date: 13 Jul 2007 03:14:57 GMT   author:   Dave Hinz

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