All,
    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
it at:
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example fits 
nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Enjoy,
Harold

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> All,
>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .  

Just slightly worn, Harold!

> This particular example fits 
> nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Are you trying to corner the market?

I do like the proof one.

-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

Tony,

    This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
freely go to other collectors .

    As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

Harold




"Tony Clayton"  wrote in message 
news:c471dbfe4e%tony@tclayton.demon.co.uk...
> In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can 
>> see
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .
>
> Just slightly worn, Harold!
>
>> This particular example fits
>> nicely in my  collection of 3/- (
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not
>> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Are you trying to corner the market?
>
> I do like the proof one.
>
> -- 
> Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
> Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
> Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
> ... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
> All,
>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Were these all struck from the same die pair?

James

There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 'O' 
in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
differences on the denomination side.

You can learn more about these tokens at: 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/mint_1813/Mint_1813.htm .

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6p3o20iig@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> All,
>>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
>> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Were these all struck from the same die pair?
>
> James
>

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
> differences on the denomination side.

Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut lettering 
on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on the animals 
appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period after JERSEY 
will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of that, either.  I 
was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have been made from the 
same dies.

James

James,
    You are correct that only one die is known to exist.  Somewhere along 
the time line, some of the letters were repunched into the working matrix or 
die causing these differences.  It has been reported, that on some 
specimens, striations are also visible.  Some numismatic fanatics try to get 
all varieties.

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6pann02sv2@enews5.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
>> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
>> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
>> differences on the denomination side.
>
> Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut 
> lettering on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on 
> the animals appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period 
> after JERSEY will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of 
> that, either.  I was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have 
> been made from the same dies.
>
> James
>
>

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> Tony,
> 
>     This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
> not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
> freely go to other collectors .

I was only jesting!

> 
>     As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
> much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
> bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

And a nicer coin, IMHO.


-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Starkle Starkle Little Twink What the hell you are I think?

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> All,
>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .  

Just slightly worn, Harold!

> This particular example fits 
> nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Are you trying to corner the market?

I do like the proof one.

-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

Tony,

    This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
freely go to other collectors .

    As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

Harold




"Tony Clayton"  wrote in message 
news:c471dbfe4e%tony@tclayton.demon.co.uk...
> In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can 
>> see
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .
>
> Just slightly worn, Harold!
>
>> This particular example fits
>> nicely in my  collection of 3/- (
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not
>> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Are you trying to corner the market?
>
> I do like the proof one.
>
> -- 
> Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
> Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
> Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
> ... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
> All,
>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Were these all struck from the same die pair?

James

There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 'O' 
in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
differences on the denomination side.

You can learn more about these tokens at: 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/mint_1813/Mint_1813.htm .

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6p3o20iig@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> All,
>>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
>> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Were these all struck from the same die pair?
>
> James
>

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
> differences on the denomination side.

Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut lettering 
on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on the animals 
appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period after JERSEY 
will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of that, either.  I 
was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have been made from the 
same dies.

James

James,
    You are correct that only one die is known to exist.  Somewhere along 
the time line, some of the letters were repunched into the working matrix or 
die causing these differences.  It has been reported, that on some 
specimens, striations are also visible.  Some numismatic fanatics try to get 
all varieties.

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6pann02sv2@enews5.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
>> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
>> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
>> differences on the denomination side.
>
> Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut 
> lettering on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on 
> the animals appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period 
> after JERSEY will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of 
> that, either.  I was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have 
> been made from the same dies.
>
> James
>
>

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> Tony,
> 
>     This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
> not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
> freely go to other collectors .

I was only jesting!

> 
>     As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
> much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
> bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

And a nicer coin, IMHO.


-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Starkle Starkle Little Twink What the hell you are I think?

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> All,
>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .  

Just slightly worn, Harold!

> This particular example fits 
> nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Are you trying to corner the market?

I do like the proof one.

-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

Tony,

    This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
freely go to other collectors .

    As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

Harold




"Tony Clayton"  wrote in message 
news:c471dbfe4e%tony@tclayton.demon.co.uk...
> In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can 
>> see
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .
>
> Just slightly worn, Harold!
>
>> This particular example fits
>> nicely in my  collection of 3/- (
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not
>> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Are you trying to corner the market?
>
> I do like the proof one.
>
> -- 
> Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
> Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
> Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
> ... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
> All,
>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Were these all struck from the same die pair?

James

There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 'O' 
in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
differences on the denomination side.

You can learn more about these tokens at: 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/mint_1813/Mint_1813.htm .

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6p3o20iig@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> All,
>>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
>> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Were these all struck from the same die pair?
>
> James
>

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
> differences on the denomination side.

Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut lettering 
on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on the animals 
appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period after JERSEY 
will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of that, either.  I 
was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have been made from the 
same dies.

James

James,
    You are correct that only one die is known to exist.  Somewhere along 
the time line, some of the letters were repunched into the working matrix or 
die causing these differences.  It has been reported, that on some 
specimens, striations are also visible.  Some numismatic fanatics try to get 
all varieties.

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6pann02sv2@enews5.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
>> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
>> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
>> differences on the denomination side.
>
> Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut 
> lettering on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on 
> the animals appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period 
> after JERSEY will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of 
> that, either.  I was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have 
> been made from the same dies.
>
> James
>
>

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> Tony,
> 
>     This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
> not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
> freely go to other collectors .

I was only jesting!

> 
>     As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
> much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
> bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

And a nicer coin, IMHO.


-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Starkle Starkle Little Twink What the hell you are I think?

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> All,
>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .  

Just slightly worn, Harold!

> This particular example fits 
> nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Are you trying to corner the market?

I do like the proof one.

-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

Tony,

    This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
freely go to other collectors .

    As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

Harold




"Tony Clayton"  wrote in message 
news:c471dbfe4e%tony@tclayton.demon.co.uk...
> In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can 
>> see
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .
>
> Just slightly worn, Harold!
>
>> This particular example fits
>> nicely in my  collection of 3/- (
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not
>> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Are you trying to corner the market?
>
> I do like the proof one.
>
> -- 
> Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
> Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
> Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
> ... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
> All,
>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Were these all struck from the same die pair?

James

There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 'O' 
in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
differences on the denomination side.

You can learn more about these tokens at: 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/mint_1813/Mint_1813.htm .

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6p3o20iig@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> All,
>>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
>> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Were these all struck from the same die pair?
>
> James
>

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
> differences on the denomination side.

Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut lettering 
on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on the animals 
appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period after JERSEY 
will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of that, either.  I 
was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have been made from the 
same dies.

James

James,
    You are correct that only one die is known to exist.  Somewhere along 
the time line, some of the letters were repunched into the working matrix or 
die causing these differences.  It has been reported, that on some 
specimens, striations are also visible.  Some numismatic fanatics try to get 
all varieties.

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6pann02sv2@enews5.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
>> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
>> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
>> differences on the denomination side.
>
> Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut 
> lettering on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on 
> the animals appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period 
> after JERSEY will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of 
> that, either.  I was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have 
> been made from the same dies.
>
> James
>
>

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> Tony,
> 
>     This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
> not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
> freely go to other collectors .

I was only jesting!

> 
>     As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
> much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
> bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

And a nicer coin, IMHO.


-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Starkle Starkle Little Twink What the hell you are I think?

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> All,
>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .  

Just slightly worn, Harold!

> This particular example fits 
> nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Are you trying to corner the market?

I do like the proof one.

-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

Tony,

    This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
freely go to other collectors .

    As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

Harold




"Tony Clayton"  wrote in message 
news:c471dbfe4e%tony@tclayton.demon.co.uk...
> In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>     I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can 
>> see
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .
>
> Just slightly worn, Harold!
>
>> This particular example fits
>> nicely in my  collection of 3/- (
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not
>> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Are you trying to corner the market?
>
> I do like the proof one.
>
> -- 
> Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
> Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
> Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
> ... Govt investigations contribute more to amusement than knowledge.

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
> All,
>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
> it at:
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do not 
> own the proof example, but the rest is mine.

Were these all struck from the same die pair?

James

There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 'O' 
in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
differences on the denomination side.

You can learn more about these tokens at: 
http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/mint_1813/Mint_1813.htm .

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
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>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:bb876$468ffae2$18d670e2$18674@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> All,
>>    I just acquire another Jersey 1813 three shillings token.  You can see 
>> it at:
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shxi.htm .   This particular example 
>> fits nicely in my  collection of 3/- ( 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/tokens_1.htm ).  Unfortunately, I do 
>> not own the proof example, but the rest is mine.
>
> Were these all struck from the same die pair?
>
> James
>

"Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
> differences on the denomination side.

Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut lettering 
on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on the animals 
appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period after JERSEY 
will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of that, either.  I 
was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have been made from the 
same dies.

James

James,
    You are correct that only one die is known to exist.  Somewhere along 
the time line, some of the letters were repunched into the working matrix or 
die causing these differences.  It has been reported, that on some 
specimens, striations are also visible.  Some numismatic fanatics try to get 
all varieties.

Harold


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message 
news:f6pann02sv2@enews5.newsguy.com...
>
> "Harold Fears"  wrote in message 
> news:d4acd$46902bb4$18d670e2$8687@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> There are a couple of differences on the shield side.  Take a look at the 
>> lettering on http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlProof.htm .  Note the 
>> 'O' in 'OF' and the 'J' in 'JERSEY'.  Then take a look at 
>> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/3shlix.htm .  I don't recall seeing any 
>> differences on the denomination side.
>
> Thanks.  I am just not seeing any difference, save the double-cut 
> lettering on the non-proof.  The F in OF is high on both, and the spots on 
> the animals appear identical as well.  Usually things such as the period 
> after JERSEY will move around die to die, but I don't see evidence of 
> that, either.  I was just curious, as all the coins appeared to me to have 
> been made from the same dies.
>
> James
>
>

In a recent message "Harold Fears"  wrote:

> Tony,
> 
>     This worn example was too good of a price -- only $13.50 post paid -- to 
> not acquire it.  As far as trying to corner the market, recently I let two 
> freely go to other collectors .

I was only jesting!

> 
>     As far as the proof 3/-, I did try to get that one, but there is only so 
> much money in the wallet.  However at the same auction, I was the only 
> bidder for its companion, a very nice 1/6 proof  token.  It's own display at 
> http://jerseycoins.com/jer_tokens/18mProof.htm .

And a nicer coin, IMHO.


-- 
Tony Clayton           tony.clayton.1962@pem.cam.ac.uk
Coins of the UK      : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Starkle Starkle Little Twink What the hell you are I think?