What software do people use these days, if any, for producing their plogs 
between UK and France?  Its easily done on the GPS of course (I use a 296c) 
but do people tend to make paper ones too?

david

Hi,

In article ,
           D wrote:
> What software do people use these days, if any, for producing their plogs 
> between UK and France?  Its easily done on the GPS of course (I use a 296c) 
> but do people tend to make paper ones too?

I don't use it to create a full PLOG, but I have the CAA charts on my PC in
Memory Map. I use the software to mark out the route and get the headings
and distances for each leg. I then transfer these to a blank plog by hand,
and calculate for wind using the Whizz Wheel.

I'd estimate the actual writing of the plog only takes me about 10 or 15
minutes once the actual route proper is planned.

Andy

I use the flight planning software which comes free with the RANT tutor.  I 
have Navbox Proplan but prefer the RANT software as it produces a much better 
plog.  Once I have planned the route I am able to upload it to my GPS, which 
is much easier that inputting the various legs directly.
I can input the wind velocity into RANT and it automatically calculates drift 
and also allows for variation and deviation.

Ed.

D wrote:
> What software do people use these days, if any, for producing their plogs 
> between UK and France?  Its easily done on the GPS of course (I use a 296c) 
> but do people tend to make paper ones too?
> 
> david

"D"  wrote

>What software do people use these days, if any, for producing their plogs 
>between UK and France?  Its easily done on the GPS of course (I use a 296c) 
>but do people tend to make paper ones too?
>
>david 
>

For VFR around UK and Europe, I always use Navbox Pro.

For IFR/airways, Flitestar is the only option.

The plog, an overall routemap, approach plates for destination and
alternate (even if VFR), and route sections for a long trip, are all
always printed out.

D schreef:
> What software do people use these days, if any, for producing their plogs 
> between UK and France?  Its easily done on the GPS of course (I use a 296c) 
> but do people tend to make paper ones too?

Silly question I suppose, but what's a plog?

Thanks all.

I flew to LFRT / Saint Brieuc today to collect my daughter...I hadnt 
appreciated how easy flying in France actually is! (at least, without a full 
ops department behind me!).  I'll certainly be going back....such beautiful 
scenery too.

david

Hi,
In article <488b4d8e$0$2861$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>,
           jan olieslagers wrote:
> Silly question I suppose, but what's a plog?

Pilots Log (I think). Basically the bit of paper with your route, headings,
times, altitude, comms frequencies etc. on it.

Andy

>> Silly question I suppose, but what's a plog?
>
> Pilots Log (I think). Basically the bit of paper with your route, 
> headings,
> times, altitude, comms frequencies etc. on it.
>
> Andy

Thats right. Its your paper life line if the GPS screens go down!

D

D schreef:
>>> Silly question I suppose, but what's a plog?
>> Pilots Log (I think). Basically the bit of paper with your route, 
>> headings,
>> times, altitude, comms frequencies etc. on it.
>>
>> Andy
> 
> Thats right. Its your paper life line if the GPS screens go down!

Thank you, gentlemen, you keep me learning!

"D"  wrote:

>
>>> Silly question I suppose, but what's a plog?
>>
>> Pilots Log (I think). Basically the bit of paper with your route, 
>> headings,
>> times, altitude, comms frequencies etc. on it.
>>
>> Andy
>
>Thats right. Its your paper life line if the GPS screens go down!
>

One should always have a printed plog, but I would suggest that the
last thing one would do upon losing the GPS is to pull out the
stopwatch and dead reckon one's way about. 

The smart thing to do is to use the backup GPS :)

On the scale of human error probability, DR is a long way down the
list.

And in case of say GPS jamming (I have had something like that for a
couple of minutes in 900 hours of flying exclusively on the GPS) one
should use VOR/DME as the backup.

For DR to be a useful backup for radio nav (GPS or VOR/DME) one needs
to run DR continuously, timing each leg from the starting waypoint,
and this jacks up the cockpit workload so much (as any PPL student
will know) there isn't much point in using a GPS.
x----------x

> One should always have a printed plog, but I would suggest that the
> last thing one would do upon losing the GPS is to pull out the
> stopwatch and dead reckon one's way about.
>
> The smart thing to do is to use the backup GPS :)
>
> On the scale of human error probability, DR is a long way down the
> list.
>
> And in case of say GPS jamming (I have had something like that for a
> couple of minutes in 900 hours of flying exclusively on the GPS) one
> should use VOR/DME as the backup.
>
> For DR to be a useful backup for radio nav (GPS or VOR/DME) one needs
> to run DR continuously, timing each leg from the starting waypoint,
> and this jacks up the cockpit workload so much (as any PPL student
> will know) there isn't much point in using a GPS.
> x----------x


Peter, I couldnt agree MORE.

I had an argument with a guy on the microlight site about this  (question 
posed by a new pilot, what should be the first five things after 
qualifying,?> and I said buy a GPS). The other chap said, no, as a member of 
the master guild of air navigators he thought GPS bad, map reading good etc. 
Si I said sure, thats why we use maaps and watches in airliners now rather 
than GPS.

The truth is as you know that GPS reduces work load hugely and improves 
situational awareness no end.

I recently took a warrior to SBK in france and the 296 made it so easy it 
was untrue.

david