Dylan Smith  wrote

>Incidentally, Ronaldsway gives a pretty false picture of our weather,

I hope so

EGNS 271620Z 24013KT 5000 FEW002 BKN005 BKN012 14/14 Q1009 BECMG
SCT005=

:)

>it's subject to frequent fog that most of the rest of the island does
>not suffer from. They put the airport in a pretty silly place, quite
>honestly, they should have used Jurby for the commercial airport.
>Due to the geography, quite often there's four different weather 
>types simultaneously at any one time.
>
>> What is an MHK?
>
>Member of the House of Keys (member of parliament).
>
>As for 'EU passport holders', the Isle of Man is not part of the EU.
>Unless these EU regulations are going to affect EU citizens perhaps
>living in the United States or other non EU state, I don't see how it's
>going to affect Manx based pilots.

Do you have a IOM passport in that case? Doesn't this mean that you
have to queue up in the non-EU passport queue everywhere you travel in
Europe, and need visas for so many countries?

Back to that EASA proposal, it isn't going to affect loads of pilots,
but the devil will be in the detail.

One should draw attention to it

http://www.easa.europa.eu/ws_prod/r/doc/NPA/NPA%202008-17b.pdf

(relevant pages are 159-161 of the above PDF)

in America, because the French "own" EASA, Airbus, and would like to
sell Airbuses in the USA :) The proposal is basically a finger-up
salute to the FAA and America.

On 2008-06-27, Peter  wrote:
> Do you have a IOM passport in that case? Doesn't this mean that you
> have to queue up in the non-EU passport queue everywhere you travel in
> Europe, and need visas for so many countries?

Yes. But it carries the same weight as a British passport (i.e. works
for the visa waiver scheme in the US, etc.)

It'll be a very silly state of affairs if Manx residents aren't allowed
to fly aircraft registered in their own territory!

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Dylan Smith  wrote

>It'll be a very silly state of affairs if Manx residents aren't allowed
>to fly aircraft registered in their own territory!

It's not that, it's the license you are flying it under. The pilots of
Manx registered planes fly mostly under FAA licenses.

On 2008-06-30, Peter  wrote:
>
> Dylan Smith  wrote
>
>>It'll be a very silly state of affairs if Manx residents aren't allowed
>>to fly aircraft registered in their own territory!
>
> It's not that, it's the license you are flying it under. The pilots of
> Manx registered planes fly mostly under FAA licenses.

No, they fly under Manx licenses. These are issued on the strength of an
appropriate ICAO license which may be European, FAA, or any other ICAO
compliant license.

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 Dylan Smith  wrote:

> On 2008-06-30, Peter  wrote:
> >
> > Dylan Smith  wrote
> >
> >>It'll be a very silly state of affairs if Manx residents aren't allowed
> >>to fly aircraft registered in their own territory!
> >
> > It's not that, it's the license you are flying it under. The pilots of
> > Manx registered planes fly mostly under FAA licenses.
> 
> No, they fly under Manx licenses. These are issued on the strength of an
> appropriate ICAO license which may be European, FAA, or any other ICAO
> compliant license.

I am sure that they became more liberalized when Ian McFayden was 
Governor General.

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Dylan Smith  wrote

>No, they fly under Manx licenses. These are issued on the strength of an
>appropriate ICAO license which may be European, FAA, or any other ICAO
>compliant license.

In that case they should be OK, because they would be regarded as
foreign pilots under this EASA proposal.

I don't think EASA can stop foreign pilots flying into Europe.

Incidentally I have just heard that the page 159/160 proposal for
accepting an FAA PPL/IR (sitting four of the 14 JAA ATP exams, 1
checkride etc) is the same as the German "FAA IR to German IR"
conversion requirements pre-JAA. Interesting coincidence.