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date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:41:30 -0700,    group: uk.rec.audio.car        back       
Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
I have recently got a 1996 405 GLX Auto Estate and I wanted to replace
the stereo.  I worked out how to remove the stereo from this excellent
site http://www.carstereohelp.org/stereoremoval/Peugeot405UKStr.htm

However, the radio only comes out about half way and then no more.  At
this point, the power goes off, so I would image the wires are being
pulled tight/out.  No matter how hard I pull on the unit (and I mean
hard), it will not come out.  Does anyone have any ideas how to remove
it?

I don't have the security code, so now if I push it back in, I can't
get it to work anyway. So I'm now wishing I hadn't touched it!
date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:41:30 -0700   author:   Matt

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
On 10 Jul, 21:41, Matt  wrote:
> I have recently got a 1996 405 GLX Auto Estate and I wanted to replace
> the stereo.  I worked out how to remove the stereo from this excellent
> sitehttp://www.carstereohelp.org/stereoremoval/Peugeot405UKStr.htm
>
> However, the radio only comes out about half way and then no more.  At
> this point, the power goes off, so I would image the wires are being
> pulled tight/out.  No matter how hard I pull on the unit (and I mean
> hard), it will not come out.  Does anyone have any ideas how to remove
> it?
>
> I don't have the security code, so now if I push it back in, I can't
> get it to work anyway. So I'm now wishing I hadn't touched it!

My radio is this type http://www.ox11.net/temp/Pug405radio.JPG if
anyone knows a security code that works.
date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:46:28 -0700   author:   Matt

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
On 10 Jul, 21:41, Matt  wrote:
> I have recently got a 1996 405 GLX Auto Estate and I wanted to replace
> the stereo.  I worked out how to remove the stereo from this excellent
> sitehttp://www.carstereohelp.org/stereoremoval/Peugeot405UKStr.htm
>
> However, the radio only comes out about half way and then no more.  At
> this point, the power goes off, so I would image the wires are being
> pulled tight/out.  No matter how hard I pull on the unit (and I mean
> hard), it will not come out.  Does anyone have any ideas how to remove
> it?
>
> I don't have the security code, so now if I push it back in, I can't
> get it to work anyway. So I'm now wishing I hadn't touched it!

I had a similar problem, I went to halfords and bought their generic
stereo removal tool (two loop clips as in the photo here
http://public.fotki.com/chance1234/my-cars/claudius/dscf2171.html )
which was about two quid
It was in there quite tight, also i had to push up the roof of the
plastic and then push the stero down and up., there was a lot of
weight on top of the stereo.
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:12:51 -0000   author:   Chance1234

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
Matt wrote:
> I have recently got a 1996 405 GLX Auto Estate and I wanted to replace
> the stereo.  I worked out how to remove the stereo from this excellent
> site http://www.carstereohelp.org/stereoremoval/Peugeot405UKStr.htm
> 
> However, the radio only comes out about half way and then no more.  At
> this point, the power goes off, so I would image the wires are being
> pulled tight/out.  No matter how hard I pull on the unit (and I mean
> hard), it will not come out.  Does anyone have any ideas how to remove
> it?
> 

I don't have experience with this car - this is based on a Xantia...

It does sound like you have successfully got the radio past the securing 
clips - but have run out of slack on the cables. As the cable plugs have 
retention clips, pulling harder isn't going to help.

So, any way of getting a hand in behind it? My first thought would be to 
see if I could remove the lighter panel. It will probably only have a 
single connector going to the lighter and will thus disconnect quite 
easily. The space it gave access to on the Xantia was surprisingly large 
- with a little bit of plastic removal, enough room to hold another ISO 
unit. In my case, a pop-out monitor which I had connected to a computer 
doing GPS and AV serving under the back seat..

  However, the heater and ventilation control panel looks a better bet. 
It may come out enough to get a hand in without disconnecting the Bowden 
cables going to the various louvres and valves. On a Xantia, 
disconnecting and reconnecting them was pretty straightforward.

Removing one or both of the above may give more slack in the cable or 
give enough to now reach the cable.

Also, a long shot, a previous owner had taped a bit of paper with the 
radio code inside the hole..

Hope that helps a bit...
> I don't have the security code, so now if I push it back in, I can't
> get it to work anyway. So I'm now wishing I hadn't touched it!
> 

BTDTGTTS. So yo have my sympathies. It may be that the heater had a 
problem in the past, the heater control panel was removed but trapped 
the radio cables when put back. So simply pulling that panel forward may 
free up the cables..

-- 
Sue
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:59:05 GMT   author:   Palindrome

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
"Chance1234"  wrote in message
news:1184137971.239131.305490@p39g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On 10 Jul, 21:41, Matt  wrote:
> > I have recently got a 1996 405 GLX Auto Estate and I wanted to replace
> > the stereo.  I worked out how to remove the stereo from this excellent
> > sitehttp://www.carstereohelp.org/stereoremoval/Peugeot405UKStr.htm
> >
> > However, the radio only comes out about half way and then no more.  At
> > this point, the power goes off, so I would image the wires are being
> > pulled tight/out.  No matter how hard I pull on the unit (and I mean
> > hard), it will not come out.  Does anyone have any ideas how to remove
> > it?
> >
> > I don't have the security code, so now if I push it back in, I can't
> > get it to work anyway. So I'm now wishing I hadn't touched it!
>
> I had a similar problem, I went to halfords and bought their generic
> stereo removal tool (two loop clips as in the photo here
> http://public.fotki.com/chance1234/my-cars/claudius/dscf2171.html )
> which was about two quid
> It was in there quite tight, also i had to push up the roof of the
> plastic and then push the stero down and up., there was a lot of
> weight on top of the stereo.
>
From memory, it's some time since I had my 405, you have to pull off the
strip at the top of the radio. This reveals two small holes into which you
push the release tool. You have to use the tool shown, but bent it straight
so that you use only one end in each hole.
The radios are often difficult to remove, you do have to fiddle quite a bit
up and down, in and out so to speak.
The code is specific to the radio, and you will need the type number,
manufacturer and possibly the serial number to derive the code. These are on
the side or back of the radio, so you have no choice but remove it anyway.
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:11:22 GMT   author:   Brian

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
"Palindrome"  wrote in message 
news:c50li.8613$38.744@fe07.news.easynews.com...
> Matt wrote:
>> I have recently got a 1996 405 GLX Auto Estate and I wanted to replace
>> the stereo.  I worked out how to remove the stereo from this excellent
>> site http://www.carstereohelp.org/stereoremoval/Peugeot405UKStr.htm
>>
>> However, the radio only comes out about half way and then no more.  At
>> this point, the power goes off, so I would image the wires are being
>> pulled tight/out.  No matter how hard I pull on the unit (and I mean
>> hard), it will not come out.  Does anyone have any ideas how to remove
>> it?
>>
>
> I don't have experience with this car - this is based on a Xantia...
>
> It does sound like you have successfully got the radio past the securing 
> clips - but have run out of slack on the cables. As the cable plugs have 
> retention clips, pulling harder isn't going to help.
>
> So, any way of getting a hand in behind it? My first thought would be to 
> see if I could remove the lighter panel. It will probably only have a 
> single connector going to the lighter and will thus disconnect quite 
> easily. The space it gave access to on the Xantia was surprisingly large - 
> with a little bit of plastic removal, enough room to hold another ISO 
> unit. In my case, a pop-out monitor which I had connected to a computer 
> doing GPS and AV serving under the back seat..
>
>  However, the heater and ventilation control panel looks a better bet. It 
> may come out enough to get a hand in without disconnecting the Bowden 
> cables going to the various louvres and valves. On a Xantia, disconnecting 
> and reconnecting them was pretty straightforward.
>
> Removing one or both of the above may give more slack in the cable or give 
> enough to now reach the cable.
>
> Also, a long shot, a previous owner had taped a bit of paper with the 
> radio code inside the hole..
>
> Hope that helps a bit...
>> I don't have the security code, so now if I push it back in, I can't
>> get it to work anyway. So I'm now wishing I hadn't touched it!
>>
>
> BTDTGTTS. So yo have my sympathies. It may be that the heater had a 
> problem in the past, the heater control panel was removed but trapped the 
> radio cables when put back. So simply pulling that panel forward may free 
> up the cables..
>
> -- 
> Sue
>

Fancy seeing you here Sue.   I am used to reading your excellent 
contributions over on free.uk.diy.home but never expected you to pop up in 
the Pug group.
-- 
Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:25:55 +0100   author:   Keith Willcocks

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
Keith Willcocks wrote:

> 
> Fancy seeing you here Sue.   I am used to reading your excellent 
> contributions over on free.uk.diy.home but never expected you to pop up in 
> the Pug group.

That's nice of you Keith. Pop around for a cuupa and some who
knows what ;-) next time you are in the area.
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:50:00 +0100   author:   Palindrome

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
"Palindrome"  wrote in message news:f754ha$af4$1@aioe.org...
> Keith Willcocks wrote:
>
>>
>> Fancy seeing you here Sue.   I am used to reading your excellent 
>> contributions over on free.uk.diy.home but never expected you to pop up 
>> in the Pug group.
>
> That's nice of you Keith. Pop around for a cuupa and some who
> knows what ;-) next time you are in the area.

Devon if I remember correctly.   Although my family originally hailed from 
Totnes (with a bit of Widdecombe In The Moor, Ugborough and other places) I 
am well away in Sunbury on Thames.   Thanks for the invite though, I'll 
remember it if I am ever down that way again.

Keith
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:31:30 +0100   author:   Keith Willcocks

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
Palindrome wrote:
> Keith Willcocks wrote:
> 
>>
>> Fancy seeing you here Sue.   I am used to reading your excellent 
>> contributions over on free.uk.diy.home but never expected you to pop 
>> up in the Pug group.
> 
> 
> That's nice of you Keith. Pop around for a cuupa and some who
> knows what ;-) next time you are in the area.

Coo. Someone actually writing posts for me.

But if Keith is from around here, "who knows what" usually involves 
welding bits back on their tractor for them ..;)

-- 
Sue
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:32:13 GMT   author:   Palindrome

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
Keith Willcocks wrote:
> "Palindrome"  wrote in message news:f754ha$af4$1@aioe.org...
> 
>>Keith Willcocks wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Fancy seeing you here Sue.   I am used to reading your excellent 
>>>contributions over on free.uk.diy.home but never expected you to pop up 
>>>in the Pug group.
>>
>>That's nice of you Keith. Pop around for a cuupa and some who
>>knows what ;-) next time you are in the area.
> 
> 
> Devon if I remember correctly.   Although my family originally hailed from 
> Totnes (with a bit of Widdecombe In The Moor, Ugborough and other places) I 
> am well away in Sunbury on Thames.   Thanks for the invite though, I'll 
> remember it if I am ever down that way again.
> 
LOL, it was someone forging a message, sorry.

I drove through Totnes at around midnight last night, as it happens. 
Which is possibly the best thing to do in Totnes and the best time to do 
it..;)

-- 
Sue
date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:38:36 GMT   author:   Palindrome

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
"Palindrome"  wrote in message 
news:gbpli.15949$ew4.9696@fe03.news.easynews.com...
> Palindrome wrote:
>> Keith Willcocks wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Fancy seeing you here Sue.   I am used to reading your excellent 
>>> contributions over on free.uk.diy.home but never expected you to pop up 
>>> in the Pug group.
>>
>>
>> That's nice of you Keith. Pop around for a cuupa and some who
>> knows what ;-) next time you are in the area.
>
> Coo. Someone actually writing posts for me.
>
> But if Keith is from around here, "who knows what" usually involves 
> welding bits back on their tractor for them ..;)
>

Actually I had assumed the "you know what" to be the traditional scones with 
cream and jam.    Incidentally, in the States they serve up "biscuits" which 
turned out to be scones.   Back to Totnes.   I have the 1881 census on cd's 
and you can find members of the family living around Cistern Street and Fore 
Street, they seem to be mainly builders, decorators and glaziers.    My 
cousin, who spent many years doing the family tree, reckons you can also 
name any pub in Totnes and he will say which member of the family ran it and 
when - a dubious side of the history no doubt.
-- 
Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)
date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:09:23 +0100   author:   Keith Willcocks

Re: Peugeot 405 radio removal - stuck half way - HELP!   
Thanks for your comments on this.
It was the wires at the rear stopping the radio coming out.  I have
removed the centre console trim on both sides (one broke!) and managed
to get access to the rear wiring and released it.  The radios are
obviously installed in the factory before the tunnel and footwell trim
is installed.

Still, I now have my new radio installed, a Blaupunkt Melbourne SD27
radio/SD card reader.  See http://www.bluespot.co.uk/stock/melbourne.asp
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:34:16 -0000   author:   Matt

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