On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:27:39 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
 wrote:

>
>"Don Pearce"  wrote in message 
>news:4af5af9a.41203046@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:12:59 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Pearce"  wrote in message
>>>news:4af4a78e.39143906@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:47:13 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> We're discussing compression, which can be measured objectively -
>>>>>> please don't try to divert the discussion onto the metaphysical. Show
>>>>>> me compression.
>>>>>
>>>>>**DBTs are not metaphysical. They allow REAL differences to be heard. 
>>>>>Tell
>>>>>me about your experiences with DBTs between MOSFET and BJT amps.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stop changing the subject. Either there is compression as you claim,
>>>> or there is not. Show me evidence of compression.
>>>
>>>**I cannot. Try the test and let me know what you hear. Perhaps you will
>>>have a different explanation. Negative tempco of gm is the only thing that
>>>makes sense to me.
>>
>> We are discussing one single parameter - compression. Once you start
>> with nonsense like seeing what you hear, you are no longer able to
>> isolate that parameter - you hear the sum of everything. And of course
>> mixed in with your "just listen" thing is all your bullshittery with
>> terms like "more dynamic". This is meaningless drivel, and the
>> standard recourse of the charlatan trying to claim superior skills of
>> discernment to the average man. It won't wash. You made the claim, now
>> substantiate it or withdraw it.
>
>**I'm uncertain of what you are demanding I withdraw. Are you demanding that 
>I withdraw my theory that pertains to why MOSFET amps sound so bad? Or are 
>you demanding I withdraw what I and others hear?
>

The one specific claim which is the ONLY one I have been discussing in
the face of your attempts to drag the conversation into the nebulous -
compression by MOSFET amplifiers.

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