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date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:37:43 GMT,    group: uk.rec.aquaria.misc        back       
Angels - How Many?   
Hello all,

I'm planning on getting a "few" angel fish this afternoon for my 180L Juwel 
Rio tank, there are some mature Melon Barbs in there and a plec but that's 
about it.  My question is, if I buy a "few" juvenile angels, what would be 
an ideal number for their social happiness, given my tank 
volume/dimensions?!

Cheers,
R.
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:37:43 GMT   author:   Richard Phillips

Re: Angels - How Many?   
"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message 
news:r7Gmi.33873$nE2.25204@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> Hello all,
>
> I'm planning on getting a "few" angel fish this afternoon for my 180L 
> Juwel Rio tank, there are some mature Melon Barbs in there and a plec but 
> that's about it.  My question is, if I buy a "few" juvenile angels, what 
> would be an ideal number for their social happiness, given my tank 
> volume/dimensions?!

Depends on the angels themselves and your tank decor.
I had 6 in my Rio 400 which was Ok until they wanted to pair off.
That's when all hell broke lose :-)

I ended up keeping 4 in the rio.
These adults have never produced fertilized eggs but must still consider 
themselves "paired" and there is still the occasional fighting but not as 
much as the two I took out who being bullied.

It was so bad I think I would have lost both if I hadn't moved them.
These two turned out to be a real pair who produce wrigglers every month or 
so.

If it is juvenile angels you're getting, I would start with six (that way 
you should end up with a breeding pair) and remove as you have to.
If adults, try four and hope for the best ;-)


>
> Cheers,
> R.
>
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:18:09 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Angels - How Many?   
2pods wrote:
> "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> news:r7Gmi.33873$nE2.25204@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm planning on getting a "few" angel fish this afternoon for my 180L
>> Juwel Rio tank, there are some mature Melon Barbs in there and a
>> plec but that's about it.  My question is, if I buy a "few" juvenile
>> angels, what would be an ideal number for their social happiness,
>> given my tank volume/dimensions?!
>
> Depends on the angels themselves and your tank decor.
> I had 6 in my Rio 400 which was Ok until they wanted to pair off.
> That's when all hell broke lose :-)
>
> I ended up keeping 4 in the rio.
> These adults have never produced fertilized eggs but must still
> consider themselves "paired" and there is still the occasional
> fighting but not as much as the two I took out who being bullied.
>
> It was so bad I think I would have lost both if I hadn't moved them.
> These two turned out to be a real pair who produce wrigglers every
> month or so.
>
> If it is juvenile angels you're getting, I would start with six (that
> way you should end up with a breeding pair) and remove as you have to.
> If adults, try four and hope for the best ;-)
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> R.

Thanks for the advice, after all that I ended up getting a lone Blue 
Acara... had one a long time ago and have a soft spot for them!

Cheers,
Richard.
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:39:20 GMT   author:   Richard Phillips

Re: Angels - How Many?   
"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message 
news:r7Gmi.33873$nE2.25204@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> Hello all,
>
> I'm planning on getting a "few" angel fish this afternoon for my 180L 
> Juwel Rio tank, there are some mature Melon Barbs in there and a plec but 
> that's about it.  My question is, if I buy a "few" juvenile angels, what 
> would be an ideal number for their social happiness, given my tank 
> volume/dimensions?!

Depends on the angels themselves and your tank decor.
I had 6 in my Rio 400 which was Ok until they wanted to pair off.
That's when all hell broke lose :-)

I ended up keeping 4 in the rio.
These adults have never produced fertilized eggs but must still consider 
themselves "paired" and there is still the occasional fighting but not as 
much as the two I took out who being bullied.

It was so bad I think I would have lost both if I hadn't moved them.
These two turned out to be a real pair who produce wrigglers every month or 
so.

If it is juvenile angels you're getting, I would start with six (that way 
you should end up with a breeding pair) and remove as you have to.
If adults, try four and hope for the best ;-)


>
> Cheers,
> R.
>
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:18:09 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Angels - How Many?   
2pods wrote:
> "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> news:r7Gmi.33873$nE2.25204@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm planning on getting a "few" angel fish this afternoon for my 180L
>> Juwel Rio tank, there are some mature Melon Barbs in there and a
>> plec but that's about it.  My question is, if I buy a "few" juvenile
>> angels, what would be an ideal number for their social happiness,
>> given my tank volume/dimensions?!
>
> Depends on the angels themselves and your tank decor.
> I had 6 in my Rio 400 which was Ok until they wanted to pair off.
> That's when all hell broke lose :-)
>
> I ended up keeping 4 in the rio.
> These adults have never produced fertilized eggs but must still
> consider themselves "paired" and there is still the occasional
> fighting but not as much as the two I took out who being bullied.
>
> It was so bad I think I would have lost both if I hadn't moved them.
> These two turned out to be a real pair who produce wrigglers every
> month or so.
>
> If it is juvenile angels you're getting, I would start with six (that
> way you should end up with a breeding pair) and remove as you have to.
> If adults, try four and hope for the best ;-)
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> R.

Thanks for the advice, after all that I ended up getting a lone Blue 
Acara... had one a long time ago and have a soft spot for them!

Cheers,
Richard.
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:39:20 GMT   author:   Richard Phillips

Re: Angels - How Many?   
"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message 
news:r7Gmi.33873$nE2.25204@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> Hello all,
>
> I'm planning on getting a "few" angel fish this afternoon for my 180L 
> Juwel Rio tank, there are some mature Melon Barbs in there and a plec but 
> that's about it.  My question is, if I buy a "few" juvenile angels, what 
> would be an ideal number for their social happiness, given my tank 
> volume/dimensions?!

Depends on the angels themselves and your tank decor.
I had 6 in my Rio 400 which was Ok until they wanted to pair off.
That's when all hell broke lose :-)

I ended up keeping 4 in the rio.
These adults have never produced fertilized eggs but must still consider 
themselves "paired" and there is still the occasional fighting but not as 
much as the two I took out who being bullied.

It was so bad I think I would have lost both if I hadn't moved them.
These two turned out to be a real pair who produce wrigglers every month or 
so.

If it is juvenile angels you're getting, I would start with six (that way 
you should end up with a breeding pair) and remove as you have to.
If adults, try four and hope for the best ;-)


>
> Cheers,
> R.
>
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:18:09 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Angels - How Many?   
2pods wrote:
> "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> news:r7Gmi.33873$nE2.25204@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm planning on getting a "few" angel fish this afternoon for my 180L
>> Juwel Rio tank, there are some mature Melon Barbs in there and a
>> plec but that's about it.  My question is, if I buy a "few" juvenile
>> angels, what would be an ideal number for their social happiness,
>> given my tank volume/dimensions?!
>
> Depends on the angels themselves and your tank decor.
> I had 6 in my Rio 400 which was Ok until they wanted to pair off.
> That's when all hell broke lose :-)
>
> I ended up keeping 4 in the rio.
> These adults have never produced fertilized eggs but must still
> consider themselves "paired" and there is still the occasional
> fighting but not as much as the two I took out who being bullied.
>
> It was so bad I think I would have lost both if I hadn't moved them.
> These two turned out to be a real pair who produce wrigglers every
> month or so.
>
> If it is juvenile angels you're getting, I would start with six (that
> way you should end up with a breeding pair) and remove as you have to.
> If adults, try four and hope for the best ;-)
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> R.

Thanks for the advice, after all that I ended up getting a lone Blue 
Acara... had one a long time ago and have a soft spot for them!

Cheers,
Richard.
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:39:20 GMT   author:   Richard Phillips

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