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date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:30:42 +0100,    group: uk.rec.aquaria.misc        back       
Gravel cleaner question   
Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.

Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)

Thanks
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:30:42 +0100   author:   elyob

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Gravel cleaner question   
Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.

Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)

Thanks
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:30:42 +0100   author:   elyob

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Gravel cleaner question   
Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.

Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)

Thanks
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:30:42 +0100   author:   elyob

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Gravel cleaner question   
Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.

Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)

Thanks
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:30:42 +0100   author:   elyob

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>

If the tanks big enough try a giraffe catfish - best gravel cleaner ever.
date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:48:51 GMT   author:   Fishman \(\(\(°

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank  from 
bucket .

HTH
"elyob"  wrote in message 
news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" starting 
> the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can anyone teach 
> me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>
> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. Any 
> advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>
> Thanks
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:45:07 GMT   author:   Andrew Gratton

Re: Gravel cleaner question   
"Andrew Gratton"  wrote in message 
news:7SKNh.30050$GI.25191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Well  the  first pitfall   with attaching  the hose to refill tank  is 
> untreated tapwater  going into tank  will stress the fish , not to mention 
> the  chlorine/chloramine attacking  gills ,also the possibilty  of 
> dissolved  copper and /or  lead  if old piping ,  All tapwater  should be 
> treated  with  a water conditioner  before being  added to  tank ,
> Saying  that  have  you thought about getting  one of those pumps that 
> attach  to a drill would be  handy  to start and run a quick  syphon , and 
> also  when you want to put water back  in  it will pump it  up to tank 
> from bucket .
>

Just buy a "Python" gravel cleaner.

Starts straight away, and refills straight from the tap.
You can add your dechlor just before/as you fill up.

However, this isn't great for tanks under 40L, or there abouts, as it would 
empty to quick.

Peter
> HTH
> "elyob"  wrote in message 
> news:56nmdiF2847f6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Hi, I bought a gravel cleaner but discarded the instructions. I seem to 
>> remember that it said sometihng like quickly shake it up and down and the 
>> flow will start. I've never got it to work, and end up "manually" 
>> starting the flow. It's not something I wish to continue doing, so can 
>> anyone teach me the failsafe way of getting the flow started.
>>
>> Whilst I'm here, I'm thinking of connecting a pipe to my kitchen tap to 
>> slowly refill the tank, as I make quite a lot of mess when pouring in. 
>> Any advice on where to get adaptors? (Or is this a big no-no!)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:12:25 +0100   author:   2pods

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