Just to say that my alter ego is off on his holidays today, the
laptop's going too but there'll be no online services. And as he has
to go, I have to go too! So you all can rest easy for a while free
from tiresome debates on vetting, explorers, por, etc. :-)

I'm off to the old land of the Brigantes (that's northern England!!)
Doing a bit (a lot!) of travelling on Shank's pony over the eastern
fells of Cumbria, Howgills and northern Pennines. I'll be on my own
and looking for solitude with lots of WC. No definite itinerary but I
plan to be in Teesdale on about Thursday next week looking at
waterfalls.

(Lurkers! Don't send out the Teal Helicopters because you won't find
me.)

Enjoy your holidays if you're off too. I'll see you back here in just
under 2 weeks time.

GAGS

"GAGS"  wrote in message 
news:fb45094f-3f13-49df-a62a-78a1d837dac2@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...

> fells of Cumbria, Howgills and northern Pennines. I'll be on my own
> and looking for solitude with lots of WC. No definite itinerary but I

WC? Toilet?

> Enjoy your holidays if you're off too. I'll see you back here in just
> under 2 weeks time.

Have fun.


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
DESC Gillingham, Kent
www.gillinghamscouts.org.uk

>(Lurkers! Don't send out the Teal Helicopters because you won't find
>me.)
>
Turn the mobile phone off to make it more difficult but you won't avoid 
everything as tracking will continue by satellite.
-- 
Paul Harris

On 1 Aug, 09:21, Paul Harris  wrote:
> >(Lurkers! Don't send out the Teal Helicopters because you won't find
> >me.)
>
> Turn the mobile phone off to make it more difficult but you won't avoid
> everything as tracking will continue by satellite.

I left all my old scouting stuff at home just to make sure, besides I
believe the tracking chip in my appointment card has now been
deactivated so the teal satellites should not have been able to get a
lock on me. To make doubly sure I went in disguise and not as GAGS.

:-)

GAGS

'OMG, he's back!'

On 1 Aug, 10:22, "Stephen Rainsbury" 
wrote:
> "GAGS"  wrote in message
>
> news:fb45094f-3f13-49df-a62a-78a1d837dac2@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>
> > fells of Cumbria, Howgills and northern Pennines. I'll be on my own
> > and looking for solitude with lots of WC. No definite itinerary but I
>
> WC? Toilet?
>

WC = wild country

GAGS

In message 
, 
GAGS  writes

>I left all my old scouting stuff at home just to make sure, besides I
>believe the tracking chip in my appointment card has now been
>deactivated so the teal satellites should not have been able to get a
>lock on me. To make doubly sure I went in disguise and not as GAGS.
>
>:-)
>
That wasn't you with the plastic glasses with the funny nose and 
moustache attached was it?
-- 
Paul Harris

In message 
, 
GAGS  writes
>On 1 Aug, 10:22, "Stephen Rainsbury" 
>wrote:
>>
>> WC? Toilet?
>>
>
>WC = wild country
>
Could be the same thing.
-- 
Paul Harris

On 20 Aug, 12:13, Paul Harris  wrote:
> In message
> ,
> GAGS  writes
>
> >I left all my old scouting stuff at home just to make sure, besides I
> >believe the tracking chip in my appointment card has now been
> >deactivated so the teal satellites should not have been able to get a
> >lock on me. To make doubly sure I went in disguise and not as GAGS.
>
> >:-)
>
> That wasn't you with the plastic glasses with the funny nose and
> moustache attached was it?

Oh 'eck!

My spectacles do have plastic lenses, my nose is 'funny' at the
moment, and I've still yet to shave this morning!

I've been found out!

I'm sure you're an undercover infiltrator for the SA's black ops dept.
I'd better watch what I say in future. Before I know it you'll be
calling me Dave seemingly like everyone else round here!

:-)

GAGS

In message 
, GAGS 
 writes
>
>Oh 'eck!
>
>My spectacles do have plastic lenses, my nose is 'funny' at the
>moment, and I've still yet to shave this morning!
>
>I've been found out!
>
It's the remote viewing.

>I'm sure you're an undercover infiltrator for the SA's black ops dept.
>I'd better watch what I say in future.

I cannot disclose who I work for she says that I mustn't say anything.

>Before I know it you'll be
>calling me Dave seemingly like everyone else round here!
>
>:-)
>
Would I do that?
-- 
Paul Harris

On 22 Aug, 14:27, Paul Harris  wrote:
> In message
> , GAGS
>  writes
>
> >Oh 'eck!
>
> >My spectacles do have plastic lenses, my nose is 'funny' at the
> >moment, and I've still yet to shave this morning!
>
> >I've been found out!
>
> It's the remote viewing.
>
> >I'm sure you're an undercover infiltrator for the SA's black ops dept.
> >I'd better watch what I say in future.
>
> I cannot disclose who I work for she says that I mustn't say anything.
>
> >Before I know it you'll be
> >calling me Dave seemingly like everyone else round here!
>
> >:-)
>
> Would I do that?

Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and Pauls....and
Chris's...and Neils...

Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?

:-)

GAGS

"GAGS"  wrote in message 
news:93582d3f-27d1-4bea-aa02-6b5652a735a7@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> ...
> Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and Pauls....and
> Chris's...and Neils...
>
> Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?
>

There's only a few people named Matt(hew) who post here. Shall I 
call you Matt?

:-)

-- 
MatSav

"MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | com> wrote 
in message news:f_qdnRbXG5AYVA_XnZ2dnUVZ8r6dnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
> "GAGS"  wrote in message 
> news:93582d3f-27d1-4bea-aa02-6b5652a735a7@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> ...
>> Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and Pauls....and
>> Chris's...and Neils...
>>
>> Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?
>>
>
> There's only a few people named Matt(hew) who post here. Shall I call you 
> Matt?
>
> :-)
>

No call him GAGS as that is how we all know him on here.

I would still love to know where the name GAGS comes from though as even 
though I do know who he is the name bears little resemblance to his real 
self ........

DaveB
West Yorks

"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:b9-dnScBrsvyDA7XnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>
> "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot 
> | com> wrote in message 
> news:f_qdnRbXG5AYVA_XnZ2dnUVZ8r6dnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>
>> "GAGS"  wrote in message 
>> news:93582d3f-27d1-4bea-aa02-6b5652a735a7@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>> ...
>>> Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and 
>>> Pauls....and
>>> Chris's...and Neils...
>>>
>>> Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?
>>>
>>
>> There's only a few people named Matt(hew) who post here. Shall 
>> I call you Matt?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>
> No call him GAGS as that is how we all know him on here.
>
> I would still love to know where the name GAGS comes from 
> though as even though I do know who he is the name bears little 
> resemblance to his real self ........
>

As I understand it...

Once upon a time, there was the "Programme Review", and the 
"Programme Review Implementation", and the "Uniform Review", and 
"ScoutCount", and "ScoutCount II", and the demise of the 
ScoutBase volunteer team, and changes to the Adventurous Activity 
Authorisation Scheme...

There were gainsayers for each of these projects or their method 
of implementation. Some of the gainsayers had perfectly valid 
arguments and sound reasoning for their points of view. 
Nonetheless, pressure was brought to bear against these "Usual 
Suspects", through "Line Management". One of the gainsayers 
decided that this amounted to attempts to silence him, and remove 
his right to free speech. Thus, this particular gainsayer 
anonymised his usenet persona as "The Gagged One", which was soon 
shortened to "GAGS". The only thing in common between the 
anonymised pseudonymn and the real man is the initial letter of 
both names!

-- 
MatSav

In message , MatSav 
<matthew@|.dot.invalid> writes
>"Dave"  wrote in message
>news:b9-dnScBrsvyDA7XnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...

>> I would still love to know where the name GAGS comes from
>> though as even though I do know who he is the name bears little
>> resemblance to his real self ........
>>
>
>As I understand it...
>
>Once upon a time, there was the "Programme Review", and the
>"Programme Review Implementation", and the "Uniform Review", and
>"ScoutCount", and "ScoutCount II", and the demise of the
>ScoutBase volunteer team, and changes to the Adventurous Activity
>Authorisation Scheme...
>
>There were gainsayers for each of these projects or their method
>of implementation. Some of the gainsayers had perfectly valid
>arguments and sound reasoning for their points of view.
>Nonetheless, pressure was brought to bear against these "Usual
>Suspects", through "Line Management". One of the gainsayers
>decided that this amounted to attempts to silence him, and remove
>his right to free speech. Thus, this particular gainsayer
>anonymised his usenet persona as "The Gagged One", which was soon
>shortened to "GAGS". The only thing in common between the
>anonymised pseudonymn and the real man is the initial letter of
>both names!
>
As soon as you start with Once upon a time it becomes another legend in 
the making, I can see we will have him on a white charger slaying 
Dragons and fighting Trolls before long.
-- 
Paul Harris

"MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | com> wrote 
in message news:4vKdnU3xrZ4FCw7XnZ2dnUVZ8sqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
> "Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:b9-dnScBrsvyDA7XnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | com> 
>> wrote in message news:f_qdnRbXG5AYVA_XnZ2dnUVZ8r6dnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>
>>> "GAGS"  wrote in message 
>>> news:93582d3f-27d1-4bea-aa02-6b5652a735a7@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>>> ...
>>>> Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and Pauls....and
>>>> Chris's...and Neils...
>>>>
>>>> Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?
>>>>
>>>
>>> There's only a few people named Matt(hew) who post here. Shall I call 
>>> you Matt?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>
>> No call him GAGS as that is how we all know him on here.
>>
>> I would still love to know where the name GAGS comes from though as even 
>> though I do know who he is the name bears little resemblance to his real 
>> self ........
>>
>
> As I understand it...
>
> Once upon a time, there was the "Programme Review", and the "Programme 
> Review Implementation", and the "Uniform Review", and "ScoutCount", and 
> "ScoutCount II", and the demise of the ScoutBase volunteer team, and 
> changes to the Adventurous Activity Authorisation Scheme...
>
> There were gainsayers for each of these projects or their method of 
> implementation. Some of the gainsayers had perfectly valid arguments and 
> sound reasoning for their points of view. Nonetheless, pressure was 
> brought to bear against these "Usual Suspects", through "Line Management". 
> One of the gainsayers decided that this amounted to attempts to silence 
> him, and remove his right to free speech. Thus, this particular gainsayer 
> anonymised his usenet persona as "The Gagged One", which was soon 
> shortened to "GAGS". The only thing in common between the anonymised 
> pseudonymn and the real man is the initial letter of both names!
>
> -- 
> MatSav
>

Ah now I see.

I knew why he went under cover as it were but not where the name came from.

I could only think of his name against a comedian and associated gag and 
GAGS.

DaveB
West Yorks

On 24 Aug, 18:10, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot |
pipex | dot | com> wrote:
> "GAGS"  wrote in message
>
> news:93582d3f-27d1-4bea-aa02-6b5652a735a7@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > ...
> > Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and Pauls....and
> > Chris's...and Neils...
>
> > Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?
>
> There's only a few people named Matt(hew) who post here. Shall I
> call you Matt?
>
> :-)

Call me anything as long as you don't call me Tarquin!

:-)

GAGS

On 25 Aug, 08:23, "Dave"  wrote:
> "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | com> wrote
> in messagenews:f_qdnRbXG5AYVA_XnZ2dnUVZ8r6dnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
>
>
> > "GAGS"  wrote in message
> >news:93582d3f-27d1-4bea-aa02-6b5652a735a7@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> >> ...
> >> Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and Pauls....and
> >> Chris's...and Neils...
>
> >> Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?
>
> > There's only a few people named Matt(hew) who post here. Shall I call you
> > Matt?
>
> > :-)
>
> No call him GAGS as that is how we all know him on here.
>
> I would still love to know where the name GAGS comes from though as even
> though I do know who he is the name bears little resemblance to his real
> self ........

I am the gagged one.

It's got nothing to do with a S. Wales anarchist publication.

It's got nothing to do with a oral reflex reaction.

It's got everything to do with:

gagged, v. tr. : To prevent from speaking or crying out by using a
gag.
gag, n. : An obstacle to or a censoring of free speech.

Or I could just be plain old Graham Arthur Gordon-Smythe!

:-)

GAGS

On 25 Aug, 08:45, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot |
pipex | dot | com> wrote:
> "Dave"  wrote in message
>
> news:b9-dnScBrsvyDA7XnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot
> > | com> wrote in message
> >news:f_qdnRbXG5AYVA_XnZ2dnUVZ8r6dnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
> >> "GAGS"  wrote in message
> >>news:93582d3f-27d1-4bea-aa02-6b5652a735a7@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> >>> ...
> >>> Far too many Daves on this ng...and Steves....and
> >>> Pauls....and
> >>> Chris's...and Neils...
>
> >>> Isn't there anyone out there called Tarquin?
>
> >> There's only a few people named Matt(hew) who post here. Shall
> >> I call you Matt?
>
> >> :-)
>
> > No call him GAGS as that is how we all know him on here.
>
> > I would still love to know where the name GAGS comes from
> > though as even though I do know who he is the name bears little
> > resemblance to his real self ........
>
> As I understand it...
>
> Once upon a time, there was the "Programme Review", and the
> "Programme Review Implementation", and the "Uniform Review", and
> "ScoutCount", and "ScoutCount II", and the demise of the
> ScoutBase volunteer team, and changes to the Adventurous Activity
> Authorisation Scheme...
>
> There were gainsayers for each of these projects or their method
> of implementation. Some of the gainsayers had perfectly valid
> arguments and sound reasoning for their points of view.
> Nonetheless, pressure was brought to bear against these "Usual
> Suspects", through "Line Management". One of the gainsayers
> decided that this amounted to attempts to silence him, and remove
> his right to free speech. Thus, this particular gainsayer
> anonymised his usenet persona as "The Gagged One", which was soon
> shortened to "GAGS". The only thing in common between the
> anonymised pseudonymn and the real man is the initial letter of
> both names!
>

Wow you make me sound as if I'm some mythical creature of an out of
this world fantasy.

(Sadly) I'm not.

:-(

GAGS

On 25 Aug, 08:59, Paul Harris  wrote:
>
> As soon as you start with Once upon a time it becomes another legend in
> the making, I can see we will have him on a white charger slaying
> Dragons and fighting Trolls before long.

Are these euphemisms for fighting the ubiquitous G&G&G and having a go
at UMs?

:-)

GAGS

On 25 Aug, 09:16, "Dave"  wrote:
>
> Ah now I see.
>
> I knew why he went under cover as it were but not where the name came from.
>
> I could only think of his name against a comedian and associated gag and
> GAGS.
>

MatSav's merry tale was nearly right.

It was a line manager. It was a veiled threat/order not to post here.
And it was all about a storm in a teacup.

It was like your DC saying: 'I lead scouting in this district,
therefore I, and only I, know everything about scouting, Don't speak
out of turn. If you want advice on canoeing, ask me and only me. If
you want advice on POR, ask me and only me. If you want advice on
where to sew your uniform badges on, ask me and only me. If you want
to know about finances, ask me and only me. If you want to know what a
GSL should be doing 12 minutes into an AGM, ask me and only me. Etc.
The rest of you can shut up.'

It's in the past.

I like the name GAGS so it's stuck.

I'm not a comedian. :-(

GAGS

In message , Paul Harris 
 writes
>In message , MatSav 
><matthew@|.dot.invalid> writes
>>"Dave"  wrote in message
>>news:b9-dnScBrsvyDA7XnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>
>>> I would still love to know where the name GAGS comes from
>>> though as even though I do know who he is the name bears little
>>> resemblance to his real self ........
>>>
>>Once upon a time, there was the "Programme Review", and the
>>"Programme Review Implementation", and the "Uniform Review", and
>>"ScoutCount", and "ScoutCount II", and the demise of the
>>ScoutBase volunteer team, and changes to the Adventurous Activity
>>Authorisation Scheme...
(snipped)
>As soon as you start with Once upon a time it becomes another legend in 
>the making, I can see we will have him on a white charger slaying 
>Dragons and fighting Trolls before long.
Sorry, but 'dragon slaying' was outlawed by a recent  EU regulation 
(672c (iii) of 01/04/09 I believe) after strenuous representations from 
the WWF and PETA, and fighting Trolls is a contravention of their human 
rights.
I'm sure that GAGS  wouldn't be involved in any such dubious activities.
Chris A.
-- 
Chris Atkinson
christopher.atkinson43@ntlworld.com
Things are more like they are now than they ever were before.

In message <$H9hKXIiy7lKFwMd@ntlworld.com>, Chris Atkinson 
 writes
>In message , Paul Harris 
> writes

>>As soon as you start with Once upon a time it becomes another legend 
>>in the making, I can see we will have him on a white charger slaying 
>>Dragons and fighting Trolls before long.

>Sorry, but 'dragon slaying' was outlawed by a recent  EU regulation 
>(672c (iii) of 01/04/09 I believe) after strenuous representations from 
>the WWF and PETA,

I must keep up with the latest rules, what page is it in POR?

>and fighting Trolls is a contravention of their human rights.

I thought that only applied if they stayed under the bridge, if they 
venture into usenet they are fair game.

>I'm sure that GAGS  wouldn't be involved in any such dubious activities.

I make you right in that GAGS would never be involved in anything 
dubious.

-- 
Paul Harris