We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves.  I had
a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.

Steve

steve wrote:
> We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
> cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves.  I had
> a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
> anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
> 
> Steve
http://www.ramco.co.uk/companyhistory.php

http://www.anchorsupplies.com/notmap.htm

steve wrote:

> We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
> cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves.  I had
> a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
> anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
> 
Google 'foker cast iron'

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:53:47 -0700 (PDT), steve
 wrote:

>We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
>cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves.  I had
>a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
>anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
>
If you are talking about a  5 Burner boiling table, then Ramco is your
best bet. The only problems are that you have to wait till they have a
tender and then bid on the lot you want. They usually come with oven,
pots, etc. So can be quite a good deal.

I bought six and two ovens and sold the surplus on ebay at about £40 -
£75 each depending upon condition, and made a small profit.

Oh, the other drawback, you have to collect from Skegness.

I would advise a visit before you place a bid to make sure you are
getting what you are bidding for.

Technically, these are exactly what they say they are, boiling tables.
They do have controls but essentially they are either on or off, and
although there are controls on the four ring burners, they never
completely cut the gas supply off. I've tried on all six and every one
was the same.

They boil VERY quickly, and they operate on propane at 15psi, or
sometimes you might find one with a petrol tank in the cage at the
side - having used one I think I know why they converted most to gas!

There are also smaller two burner petrol stoves but they are older and
not so easy to come by.

You can also buy individual burners. These are, I think, from modular
units, there are several of them fitted to the mobile Field kitchens.

Ewan Scott
http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk

http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk

"Phil Bradshaw" <philbradshaw@deltasierralima.pipex.charlieoscarmike> wrote 
in message news:Mb2dncEzVq2IkVLVnZ2dnUVZ8qrinZ2d@pipex.net...

> Google 'foker cast iron'

Just don;t let the kids see the name, mine get into fits of hysterics.

"Who is going to clean the cooker.. its a dirty little Fokker"

"Have you seen out cookers? Come and meet the fokers"

And other related Spitfire and Mescherscmidt jokes.


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

"steve"  wrote in message 
news:fdc9f394-01e8-49b3-9e7b-efac84b91fbd@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
> cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves.  I had
> a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
> anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
>
> Steve

 We have something similar to this 
http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/double-burners/prod_42.html 
except ours is a little wider as there is room between the 2 burners to rest 
a pan or kettle.

We also have one of these 
http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/ex-wd-war-department-oven/prod_38.html 
which when you get to grips with it is brill.

DaveB
West Yorks

On 16 Sep, 22:59, "Dave"  wrote:
> "steve"  wrote in message
>
> news:fdc9f394-01e8-49b3-9e7b-efac84b91fbd@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
> > cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves.  I had
> > a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
> > anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
>
> > Steve
>
>  We have something similar to thishttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/double-burners/prod_42...
> except ours is a little wider as there is room between the 2 burners to rest
> a pan or kettle.
>
> We also have one of thesehttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/ex-wd-war-department-o...
> which when you get to grips with it is brill.
>

i second the oven! we have 3. two run on gas and one sits on the fire.

> DaveB
> West Yorks

"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:d%Vzk.113800$1l2.1695@newsfe27.ams2...
>
> "steve"  wrote in message 
> news:fdc9f394-01e8-49b3-9e7b-efac84b91fbd@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
>> cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves.  I had
>> a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
>> anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
>>
>> Steve
>
> We have something similar to this 
> http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/double-burners/prod_42.html 
> except ours is a little wider as there is room between the 2 burners to 
> rest a pan or kettle.
>
> We also have one of these 
> http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/ex-wd-war-department-oven/prod_38.html 
> which when you get to grips with it is brill.
>
> DaveB
> West Yorks

I must be a sad case, but all my Christmases would come at once if i could 
have both of these!
I am sick to death of doing 'mass cooking' on these silly double burners 
with a tiny flame running off of 907 Gaz bottles!
As for the oven, I had a local chap weld -up a solid steel box, rather like 
a safe without a lock. We have to stoke up the mother of a blaze under it to 
roast anything, basically the whole jobbie glows red and partially 
incinerates the lower 50% while the top of it is uncooked.

BUT Dave ? Chris? what gas bottle do I need? I really don't want to cart a 
full size calor bottle to week-end camps. Parents just can't fit them in 
cars. Can I use a smaller red bottle, you often see builders using them. A 
bit bigger than a football.

Eddie Langdown 16th Bermondsey London

"chris.5th"  wrote in message 
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On 16 Sep, 22:59, "Dave"  wrote:
> "steve"  wrote in message
>
> news:fdc9f394-01e8-49b3-9e7b-efac84b91fbd@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
> > cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves. I had
> > a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
> > anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
>
> > Steve
>
> We have something similar to 
> thishttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/double-burners/prod_42...
> except ours is a little wider as there is room between the 2 burners to 
> rest
> a pan or kettle.
>
> We also have one of 
> thesehttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/ex-wd-war-department-o...
> which when you get to grips with it is brill.
>

i second the oven! we have 3. two run on gas and one sits on the fire.

Chris,
So, they work sitting on top of a gas burner?
And you can sit then directly on top of a wood-fire?
Eddie

"Eddie Langdown"  wrote in message 
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> BUT Dave ? Chris? what gas bottle do I need? I really don't want to cart a 
> full size calor bottle to week-end camps. Parents just can't fit them in 
> cars. Can I use a smaller red bottle, you often see builders using them. A 
> bit bigger than a football.

All Propane regulators produce the same pressure, so the bottle size only 
effects how long it lasts, and this depends on how much you use it.

I expect to get 4/5 days out of a 3.7Kg "Dumpy" or "Lego Head" bottle (less 
in winter)  assuming it is used to power a single double burner cooker, and 
is used for 10-12 people.

We don't use butane anymore, it doesn't work well at low temperatures.

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

"chris.5th"  wrote in message 
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On 16 Sep, 22:59, "Dave"  wrote:
> "steve"  wrote in message
>
> news:fdc9f394-01e8-49b3-9e7b-efac84b91fbd@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
> > cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves. I had
> > a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
> > anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
>
> > Steve
>
> We have something similar to 
> thishttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/double-burners/prod_42...
> except ours is a little wider as there is room between the 2 burners to 
> rest
> a pan or kettle.
>
> We also have one of 
> thesehttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/ex-wd-war-department-o...
> which when you get to grips with it is brill.
>

i second the oven! we have 3. two run on gas and one sits on the fire.

> DaveB
> West Yorks

Just bought and paid for both, am hanging the lights and holly up now.
Eddie

"> I expect to get 4/5 days out of a 3.7Kg "Dumpy" or "Lego Head" bottle 
(less
> in winter)  assuming it is used to power a single double burner cooker, 
> and is used for 10-12 people.
>
> We don't use butane anymore, it doesn't work well at low temperatures.
>
> -- 
> Stephen Rainsbury
> ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
> www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

'Leggo Head' Sounds like you are describing the bottle I need -- I must see 
where i can get a couple from, and the regulators.
I would think they would also be a better size for carrying in our open 
canoes on long trips.
Eddie

On 17 Sep, 14:54, "Eddie Langdown"  wrote:
> "chris.5th"  wrote in message
>
> news:d860a69b-49f8-4bff-afa6-3d1f8a4142c8@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On 16 Sep, 22:59, "Dave"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "steve"  wrote in message
>
> >news:fdc9f394-01e8-49b3-9e7b-efac84b91fbd@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > We went to our first large camp this summer and saw several groups
> > > cooking on very large what looked like ex-army cooking stoves. I had
> > > a quick look online and do see anything similar and was wondering if
> > > anyone knows where these types of pieces can be picked up.
>
> > > Steve
>
> > We have something similar to
> > thishttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/double-burners/prod_42...
> > except ours is a little wider as there is room between the 2 burners to
> > rest
> > a pan or kettle.
>
> > We also have one of
> > thesehttp://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/ex-wd-war-department-o...
> > which when you get to grips with it is brill.
>
> i second the oven! we have 3. two run on gas and one sits on the fire.
>
> > DaveB
> > West Yorks
>
> Just bought and paid for both, am hanging the lights and holly up now.
> Eddie- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

NB. the oven has to sit over gas stoves or a fire. we use a couple of
different sorts of burners for them. (2 are pitrch/tar burners we
think and 2 are old army surplus ones. ) There are 2 holes in the
bottom of the outer skin of the oven and the flames go up them. There
are also 2 holes in the top. You leave them open to begin with to get
the air circulating and close them once it's hot.

The one on the fire is filthy and mucky. the other two are pristine.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:22 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
<stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:

>"Eddie Langdown"  wrote in message 
>news:rqudnVHVWM-9lEzVnZ2dnUVZ8trinZ2d@bt.com...
>
>> BUT Dave ? Chris? what gas bottle do I need? I really don't want to cart a 
>> full size calor bottle to week-end camps. Parents just can't fit them in 
>> cars. Can I use a smaller red bottle, you often see builders using them. A 
>> bit bigger than a football.
>
>All Propane regulators produce the same pressure, so the bottle size only 
>effects how long it lasts, and this depends on how much you use it.

Er, no they don't. The standard is 37mBar, but our boiling table runs
on 15psi. If we use a 37mB regulator it just sputters and goes out!

Ewan Scott
http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk

http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk


>
>I expect to get 4/5 days out of a 3.7Kg "Dumpy" or "Lego Head" bottle (less 
>in winter)  assuming it is used to power a single double burner cooker, and 
>is used for 10-12 people.
>
>We don't use butane anymore, it doesn't work well at low temperatures.

Note that the large bottles, though the pressure is the same, produce
a much higher volume of gas. The volume produced (boiled from liquid
to gas) is proportional to the surface area of the liquid. We have
some large burners, simlilar some mentioned here and the won't run on
anything less than a 20 lbs tank (a North American thing).


Allan.

On Sep 17, 9:53 am, "Stephen Rainsbury" <step...@rainsbury.net-
spamnet- -> wrote:
> "Eddie Langdown"  wrote in message
>
> news:rqudnVHVWM-9lEzVnZ2dnUVZ8trinZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > BUT Dave ? Chris? what gas bottle do I need? I really don't want to cart a
> > full size calor bottle to week-end camps. Parents just can't fit them in
> > cars. Can I use a smaller red bottle, you often see builders using them. A
> > bit bigger than a football.
>
> All Propane regulators produce the same pressure, so the bottle size only
> effects how long it lasts, and this depends on how much you use it.
>
> I expect to get 4/5 days out of a 3.7Kg "Dumpy" or "Lego Head" bottle (less
> in winter)  assuming it is used to power a single double burner cooker, and
> is used for 10-12 people.
>
> We don't use butane anymore, it doesn't work well at low temperatures.
>
> --
> Stephen Rainsbury
> ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unitwww.agathoid.org.uk(removethis bit)

Ewan Scott wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:22 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
> <stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:
> 
>> "Eddie Langdown"  wrote in message 
>> news:rqudnVHVWM-9lEzVnZ2dnUVZ8trinZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>> BUT Dave ? Chris? what gas bottle do I need? I really don't want to cart a 
>>> full size calor bottle to week-end camps. Parents just can't fit them in 
>>> cars. Can I use a smaller red bottle, you often see builders using them. A 
>>> bit bigger than a football.
>> All Propane regulators produce the same pressure, so the bottle size only 
>> effects how long it lasts, and this depends on how much you use it.
> 
> Er, no they don't. The standard is 37mBar, but our boiling table runs
> on 15psi. If we use a 37mB regulator it just sputters and goes out!
> 
> Ewan Scott
> http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk
> 
> http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk
That's 1bar, how much gas do you get through?

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:15:34 +0100, Gooders  wrote:

>Ewan Scott wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:22 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
>> <stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:
>> 
>>> "Eddie Langdown"  wrote in message 
>>> news:rqudnVHVWM-9lEzVnZ2dnUVZ8trinZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>>> BUT Dave ? Chris? what gas bottle do I need? I really don't want to cart a 
>>>> full size calor bottle to week-end camps. Parents just can't fit them in 
>>>> cars. Can I use a smaller red bottle, you often see builders using them. A 
>>>> bit bigger than a football.
>>> All Propane regulators produce the same pressure, so the bottle size only 
>>> effects how long it lasts, and this depends on how much you use it.
>> 
>> Er, no they don't. The standard is 37mBar, but our boiling table runs
>> on 15psi. If we use a 37mB regulator it just sputters and goes out!
>> 
>> Ewan Scott
>> http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk
>> 
>> http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk
>That's 1bar, how much gas do you get through?

Lots!

We have to start off with a full cylinder and when the pressure gets
too low for the boiling table we transfer the cylinder to the dixie or
the water boiler.

BTW, got a new water boiler for trad camping, a beer barrel modified
to boil water on an alter fire - cold water in hot water out :-)

Ewan Scott
http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk

http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk

> BTW, got a new water boiler for trad camping, a beer barrel modified
> to boil water on an alter fire - cold water in hot water out :-)
>
> Ewan Scott
> http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk
>
> http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk

At the Guide site at Foxlease in New Forest they have a version of these on 
every site. It is made out of a galvanised dustbin welded to an altar fire! 
However ashes get-in when you lift the lid. Your version is sealed, with a 
funnel on top?

Eddie

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:03:01 +0100, "Eddie Langdown"
 wrote:

>At the Guide site at Foxlease in New Forest they have a version of these on 
>every site. It is made out of a galvanised dustbin welded to an altar fire! 
>However ashes get-in when you lift the lid. Your version is sealed, with a 
>funnel on top?

We tried to do one of those (without the altar fire) but found the bin
wasn't waterproof...

Anyone know anywhere we can get a metal dustbin that is waterproof
without any additional welding?

Neil

-- 
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Neil Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:03:01 +0100, "Eddie Langdown"
>  wrote:
> 
>> At the Guide site at Foxlease in New Forest they have a version of these on 
>> every site. It is made out of a galvanised dustbin welded to an altar fire! 
>> However ashes get-in when you lift the lid. Your version is sealed, with a 
>> funnel on top?
> 
> We tried to do one of those (without the altar fire) but found the bin
> wasn't waterproof...
> 
> Anyone know anywhere we can get a metal dustbin that is waterproof
> without any additional welding?
> 
> Neil
> 
Did you persevere? With things like Kelly Kettles they tell you that it 
may leak on the first few times that it is used.

Often these bins are only soldered or brazed, which IIRC has a lower 
melting point than a proper weld.

Stephen

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:21:33 +0100, Gooders  wrote:

>Did you persevere? With things like Kelly Kettles they tell you that it 
>may leak on the first few times that it is used.

No, as it *really* leaked - it put the fire out!

Neil

-- 
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Put my first name before the at to reply.

Neil Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:21:33 +0100, Gooders  wrote:
> 
>> Did you persevere? With things like Kelly Kettles they tell you that it 
>> may leak on the first few times that it is used.
> 
> No, as it *really* leaked - it put the fire out!
> 
> Neil
> 
Ah, that's not good is it.

"Allan Yates"  wrote in message 
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>Note that the large bottles, though the pressure is the same, produce
>a much higher volume of gas. The volume produced (boiled from liquid
>to gas) is proportional to the surface area of the liquid. We have
>some large burners, simlilar some mentioned here and the won't run on
>anything less than a 20 lbs tank (a North American thing).

Que?

The regulator should produce the same what pressure no matter what, until 
there is so little gas left that the pressure in the bottle is less.

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

"Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:22 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"

> Er, no they don't. The standard is 37mBar, but our boiling table runs
> on 15psi. If we use a 37mB regulator it just sputters and goes out!

Can you still get them?

I

"Stephen Rainsbury" <stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote in message 
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> "Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
> news:mjj2d4ph9nb6lrohj8buehhn64ns7dgktm@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:22 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
>
>> Er, no they don't. The standard is 37mBar, but our boiling table runs
>> on 15psi. If we use a 37mB regulator it just sputters and goes out!
>
> Can you still get them?
>
> I
Bugger wrong button. Sent too early...

There was a change to the law a few years back. We had a leaflet, which was 
on the HQ notice board until a few months ago, but I think we still have a 
copy.

I can't find the exact reference but from the Calor Gas site I think it is 
related to

"The Pressure Systems and Transportable Gas Containers Regulations 1989, SI 
1989 No. 2169 have now been superseded by the Pressure Systems Safety 
Regulations 2000, SI 2000 No 128, which came into force on 21st February 
2000"

There was something about anything above a certain limit, and I think that 
may be 37mb being classed as commercial or industrial or summat.

"It depends on the age of your caravan. Until 2003, butane and propane 
installations on touring caravans and motor homes required different 
regulators - butane to 28mbar and propane to 37mbar. From September 2003, 
all touring caravan* and motor home manufacturers started to fit new 30 mbar 
bulkhead mounted regulators (designed to BSEN12864) in accordance with the 
requirements of the new European installation standard EN:1949 which apply 
across Europe, making European touring more simple."

I will look into it more, but a quick scan only showed 37mb (or less) 
regulators for use in domestic or portable equipment.

The 1bar stuff e.g.. 
http://www.socal.co.uk/Hardware/Regulators/High_Pressure/Bullfinch_1041_Tinyreg_1bar_high_pressure_-_LPG_Calor_Gas_Propane_Regulator/67/16350

is labelled

"Suitable specialised Industrial Equipment
Read the manufacturers instructions

NOT TO BE USED WITH DOMESTIC OR LEISURE EQUIPMENT UNLESS SPECIFIED IN THE 
APPLAINCE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS"

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

"Neil Williams"  wrote in message 
news:48d17516.14945301@news.individual.net...
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:21:33 +0100, Gooders  wrote:
>
>>Did you persevere? With things like Kelly Kettles they tell you that it
>>may leak on the first few times that it is used.
>
> No, as it *really* leaked - it put the fire out!

Mine dribbled for the first year and left stains around the base, but it 
never put the fire out.

I thought they had a lifetime guarantee, have you tried sending it back for 
repair?

Having said that I can't see it mentioned on their website :(

I also have the pot stand, and to be honest it is next to useless,  as the 
heat from the kettle is intense for 3 minutes and then stops, so you are 
extremely limited as to what you can cook on it, certainly sausages were 
black on the outside and cold in the middle :-(

I could have put a second brew on but that really defeats the object, I only 
needed enough for washing up!

-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:36:19 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
<stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:


>The 1bar stuff e.g.. 
>http://www.socal.co.uk/Hardware/Regulators/High_Pressure/Bullfinch_1041_Tinyreg_1bar_high_pressure_-_LPG_Calor_Gas_Propane_Regulator/67/16350
>
>is labelled
>
>"Suitable specialised Industrial Equipment
>Read the manufacturers instructions
>
>NOT TO BE USED WITH DOMESTIC OR LEISURE EQUIPMENT UNLESS SPECIFIED IN THE 
>APPLAINCE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS"


That's fine, the equipment specifies it needs it, and it isn't exactly
leisure equipment - it is war zone kit ;-)

Ewan Scott
http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk

http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:43:30 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
<stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:

>I thought they had a lifetime guarantee, have you tried sending it back for 
>repair?

I'm talking about metal dustbins, not Kelly Kettles...

Neil

-- 
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:03:01 +0100, "Eddie Langdown"
 wrote:

>> BTW, got a new water boiler for trad camping, a beer barrel modified
>> to boil water on an alter fire - cold water in hot water out :-)
>>
>> Ewan Scott
>> http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk
>>
>> http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk
>
>At the Guide site at Foxlease in New Forest they have a version of these on 
>every site. It is made out of a galvanised dustbin welded to an altar fire! 
>However ashes get-in when you lift the lid. Your version is sealed, with a 
>funnel on top?
>
Yes, we were given the barrel by a local pub. It has holes in the
wrong places. so the "wrong holes" were welded up.

If you imagine the barrel on its side, the vent hole is on top. This
had a stainless tube welded in place as in inlet, dropping down to
about 1 inch from the opposite wall of the barrel. Then a new hole was
drilled at 12 o'clock on the end of the barrel and a stainless spigot
welded in place. Job done. We do need to use a funnel to fill the keg
but that isn't really an issue.

It won't rust or rot, and so long as the filler and spigot are covered
when not in use it will remain free of creepie crawlies.

I'll put photos on the website when we get around to using it.

Ewan Scott
http://www.claytonwestscouts.org.uk

http://www.whitleybeaumont.co.uk

Anyone have one of these or able to comment as to what it is like ???

http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/field-kitchen/prod_129.html

Steve Hinchliff

"Eddie Langdown"  wrote in message 
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SNIP
> BUT Dave ? Chris? what gas bottle do I need? I really don't want to cart a 
> full size calor bottle to week-end camps. Parents just can't fit them in 
> cars. Can I use a smaller red bottle, you often see builders using them. A 
> bit bigger than a football.
>
> Eddie Langdown 16th Bermondsey London
>
We take with us a smallish propane bottle for weekends or if going for a 
week get a massive one on site and  a smaller one.

The big one runs the burners for cooking on, the small one the burners for 
the oven.

If necessary we swap things about as the week comes to a close.

DaveB
West Yorks

"Neil Williams"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:43:30 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
> <stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:
>
>>I thought they had a lifetime guarantee, have you tried sending it back 
>>for
>>repair?
>
> I'm talking about metal dustbins, not Kelly Kettles...

Sorry I thought somebody mentioned that Kelley kettles leak


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

"Ewan Scott"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:36:19 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
> <stephen@rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:

> That's fine, the equipment specifies it needs it, and it isn't exactly
> leisure equipment - it is war zone kit ;-)

Does it go with your champ?  :-)


-- 
Stephen Rainsbury
ESL Agathoid Explorer Scout Unit
www.agathoid.org.uk(remove this bit)

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:40:11 -0700 (PDT), steve
 wrote:

>
>Anyone have one of these or able to comment as to what it is like ???
>
>http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/field-kitchen/prod_129.html
>
>Steve Hinchliff

For that much money I'd want it to have wheels ;)

http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/,30,/16938/Sankey.htm#

On 18 Sep 2008 Ewan Scott  wrote in
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> That's fine, the equipment specifies it needs it, and it isn't
> exactly leisure equipment - it is war zone kit ;-

I know it's rough oop north but even so...

-- 
Graham Drabble
2nd West Drayton
http://www.drabble.me.uk/

"Tim Jones"  wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:40:11 -0700 (PDT), steve
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>Anyone have one of these or able to comment as to what it is like ???
>>
>>http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/field-kitchen/prod_129.html
>>
>>Steve Hinchliff
>
> For that much money I'd want it to have wheels ;)
>
> http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/,30,/16938/Sankey.htm#
>

But it must be a sod for the kids to pull uphill.
Eddie

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:14:31 +0100, "Eddie Langdown"
 wrote:

>
>"Tim Jones"  wrote in message 
>news:48d365bc.7055500@news.btinternet.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:40:11 -0700 (PDT), steve
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Anyone have one of these or able to comment as to what it is like ???
>>>
>>>http://www.armytents.co.uk/cooking-accessories/field-kitchen/prod_129.html
>>>
>>>Steve Hinchliff
>>
>> For that much money I'd want it to have wheels ;)
>>
>> http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/,30,/16938/Sankey.htm#
>>
>
>But it must be a sod for the kids to pull uphill.
>Eddie 

 Drop them off at the top end  of the site then ;)