Can someone please tell me if the following is correct.
"Derwent Water is in the Lake District and Derwent Reservoir is in the
Derwent Valley, Derbyshire in the Peak District".

I was discussing the location of Derwent Reservoir with a fellow
leader a few weeks back and he was adamant of the former and I of the
latter.  It appears, after a brief google search, that there are two
Derwent Reservoirs; one in the Lakes, the other in the Peaks.  The one
in the Lakes though is referred more often to as Derwent Waters rather
than Reservoir.

I'm very confused!  Can anyone shed some light on this for me, please?

Tom B
ACSL & ESL (YL) 11th/9th Cambridge
Co-ordinator/Member Scout Network Cambridgeshire (Peterborough Unit)

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:14:52 -0700 (PDT), Tom B
 wrote:

>Can someone please tell me if the following is correct.
>"Derwent Water is in the Lake District and Derwent Reservoir is in the
>Derwent Valley, Derbyshire in the Peak District".

Certainly Derwentwater (one word, I think) is in the Lakes, near
Keswick.

Neil

-- 
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Tom B wrote:

>Can someone please tell me if the following is correct.
>"Derwent Water is in the Lake District and Derwent Reservoir is in the
>Derwent Valley, Derbyshire in the Peak District".

That's (almost) correct.

>I was discussing the location of Derwent Reservoir with a fellow
>leader a few weeks back and he was adamant of the former and I of the
>latter.  It appears, after a brief google search, that there are two
>Derwent Reservoirs; one in the Lakes, the other in the Peaks.  The one
>in the Lakes though is referred more often to as Derwent Waters rather
>than Reservoir.
>
>I'm very confused!  Can anyone shed some light on this for me, please?

Why is it confusing? - there are lot's of place names that are used twice.
You just have to be careful which one you're talking about.  You have, by
the way, and why you're only almost correct, left out the other Derwent
Reservoir, near Consett in County Durham.  Derwent Water in Cumbria is
natural, not man made, so is still a Water not a Reservoir.  Derwent
Reservoir in Derbyshire, incidentally, is where the bouncing bomb (made
famous by The Dam Busters) was tested.  It was chosen, I was told years ago,
because the smog from Sheffield allowed the testing to be carried out in
conditions that resembled night time and without being observed by potential
spys from the bank.  Hard to remember, if you go there now, what Sheffield
used to be like and how far it's pall extended.


-- 
John Russell
CSL  1st Pinhoe  Exeter  Devon
http://www.pinhoescouts.org.uk/cubs/
Cubs don't care how much you know, but they need to know how much you care.

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:30:15 GMT, John Russell  wrote:
> Tom B wrote:
>
>>Can someone please tell me if the following is correct.
>>"Derwent Water is in the Lake District and Derwent Reservoir is in the
>>Derwent Valley, Derbyshire in the Peak District".
>
> That's (almost) correct.
>
>>I was discussing the location of Derwent Reservoir with a fellow
>>leader a few weeks back and he was adamant of the former and I of the
>>latter.  It appears, after a brief google search, that there are two
>>Derwent Reservoirs; one in the Lakes, the other in the Peaks.  The one
>>in the Lakes though is referred more often to as Derwent Waters rather
>>than Reservoir.
>>
>>I'm very confused!  Can anyone shed some light on this for me, please?
>
> Why is it confusing? - there are lot's of place names that are used twice.
> You just have to be careful which one you're talking about.  You have, by
> the way, and why you're only almost correct, left out the other Derwent
> Reservoir, near Consett in County Durham.  Derwent Water in Cumbria is
> natural, not man made, so is still a Water not a Reservoir.  Derwent
> Reservoir in Derbyshire, incidentally, is where the bouncing bomb (made
> famous by The Dam Busters) was tested.  It was chosen, I was told years ago,
> because the smog from Sheffield allowed the testing to be carried out in
> conditions that resembled night time and without being observed by potential
> spys from the bank.  Hard to remember, if you go there now, what Sheffield
> used to be like and how far it's pall extended.

Coming originally from Sheffield I do not believe it. The smog was
horrid in the 1950s but it was swept out east. I used to go walking out
towards Derwent Reservoir and that is west. It would have the smog from
Manchester if any, not Sheffield.

It is also difficult to imagine spies on the bank. It is miles from
anywhere. Anyone going there would have to go via Derwent Village, which
was flooded in 1946 by the Ladybower reservoir below the Derwent one.

The reason Derwent Reservoir was chosen is that there were towers on the
dam wall, one each side, and these were very similar to their target dam
in Germany. The plane had to drop the bomb low and not hit the towers.

Brian.

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Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:30:15 GMT, John Russell  wrote:
>> Tom B wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone please tell me if the following is correct.
>>> "Derwent Water is in the Lake District and Derwent Reservoir is in the
>>> Derwent Valley, Derbyshire in the Peak District".
>> That's (almost) correct.
>>
>>> I was discussing the location of Derwent Reservoir with a fellow
>>> leader a few weeks back and he was adamant of the former and I of the
>>> latter.  It appears, after a brief google search, that there are two
>>> Derwent Reservoirs; one in the Lakes, the other in the Peaks.  The one
>>> in the Lakes though is referred more often to as Derwent Waters rather
>>> than Reservoir.
>>>
>>> I'm very confused!  Can anyone shed some light on this for me, please?
>> Why is it confusing? - there are lot's of place names that are used twice.
>> You just have to be careful which one you're talking about.  You have, by
>> the way, and why you're only almost correct, left out the other Derwent
>> Reservoir, near Consett in County Durham.  Derwent Water in Cumbria is
>> natural, not man made, so is still a Water not a Reservoir.  Derwent
>> Reservoir in Derbyshire, incidentally, is where the bouncing bomb (made
>> famous by The Dam Busters) was tested.  It was chosen, I was told years ago,
>> because the smog from Sheffield allowed the testing to be carried out in
>> conditions that resembled night time and without being observed by potential
>> spys from the bank.  Hard to remember, if you go there now, what Sheffield
>> used to be like and how far it's pall extended.
> 
> Coming originally from Sheffield I do not believe it. The smog was
> horrid in the 1950s but it was swept out east. I used to go walking out
> towards Derwent Reservoir and that is west. It would have the smog from
> Manchester if any, not Sheffield.
> 
> It is also difficult to imagine spies on the bank. It is miles from
> anywhere. Anyone going there would have to go via Derwent Village, which
> was flooded in 1946 by the Ladybower reservoir below the Derwent one.
> 
> The reason Derwent Reservoir was chosen is that there were towers on the
> dam wall, one each side, and these were very similar to their target dam
> in Germany. The plane had to drop the bomb low and not hit the towers.
> 
> Brian.
> 
Another reason was that the approach to the dam was similar to that in 
Germany.

There was a remembrance ceremony there a few weeks back and the flypast 
was available on BBC iPlayer.

Stephen

Tom B wrote:
> Can someone please tell me if the following is correct.
> "Derwent Water is in the Lake District and Derwent Reservoir is in the
> Derwent Valley, Derbyshire in the Peak District".
> 
> I was discussing the location of Derwent Reservoir with a fellow
> leader a few weeks back and he was adamant of the former and I of the
> latter.  It appears, after a brief google search, that there are two
> Derwent Reservoirs; one in the Lakes, the other in the Peaks.  The one
> in the Lakes though is referred more often to as Derwent Waters rather
> than Reservoir.
> 
> I'm very confused!  Can anyone shed some light on this for me, please?
> 
> Tom B
> ACSL & ESL (YL) 11th/9th Cambridge
> Co-ordinator/Member Scout Network Cambridgeshire (Peterborough Unit)
There is Derwent Water in the Lakes (which I do not believe to be a 
reservoir) and Derwent Reservoir in Derbyshire, alongside Howden and 
Ladybower reservoirs.

There's also a Derwent Reservoir somewhere near Durham.

Stephen

On 8 Jul, 17:52, Gooders  wrote:

>
> There is Derwent Water in the Lakes (which I do not believe to be a
> reservoir) and Derwent Reservoir in Derbyshire, alongside Howden and
> Ladybower reservoirs.
>
> There's also a Derwent Reservoir somewhere near Durham.
>
> Stephen

Cheers guys!  Knew I could rely on you all for info.  Now that I know
which is which I may sort out a camp for my explorers to the nearest.

On 8 Jul, 03:14, Tom B  wrote:
> Can someone please tell me if the following is correct.
> "Derwent Water is in the Lake District and Derwent Reservoir is in the
> Derwent Valley, Derbyshire in the Peak District".

Correct (having frequently been to both!).

Derwent Reservoir is the middle of three, with Howden above and
Ladybower below.

Derwent Reservoir trivia - It was the testing ground for the 617
Squadron (Dambusters).




Jim