Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?

pete

"Peter Turtill"  wrote in message 
news:ju61c5d352nfptl39or23c9l6v3s7tjin4@4ax.com...
> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>
> pete

Its doubtful that you will find a specific Squib racing course; but racing a 
Squib is little different to any other small boat, apart from the controls 
layout. Similarly the spinnaker work is much the same.  So just find an RYA 
racing course and speak to the sea school about what you want to do.

Have you tried the Squib Association www.squibs.co.uk

Keith

www.irpcs.com

Peter Turtill wrote:
> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?

The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may be 
able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:14:12 +0100, "skyva"
 wrote:

>
>"Peter Turtill"  wrote in message 
>news:ju61c5d352nfptl39or23c9l6v3s7tjin4@4ax.com...
>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>>
>> pete
>
>Its doubtful that you will find a specific Squib racing course; but racing a 
>Squib is little different to any other small boat, apart from the controls 
>layout. Similarly the spinnaker work is much the same.  So just find an RYA 
>racing course and speak to the sea school about what you want to do.
>
>Have you tried the Squib Association www.squibs.co.uk
>
>Keith
>
>www.irpcs.com

Thanks Keith. I will check out both links. The Squib link seems
promising.

pete

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:21:56 +0100, Mark Bluemel
 wrote:

>Peter Turtill wrote:
>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>
>The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may be 
>able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.

That would fit the bill if it was shore based. I really want private
tuition per half day where I can drive there, go sailing and then
drive back. I may even persuade my wife to take lessons too but as
pensioners we have to take it in easy stages. We want to get better
and a RYA certificated course is not important as long as the tuition
is able to show us the best way to sail a Squib.We are being taught
Squib sailing now but the season is ending and the boats come out of
the water soon.

pete

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:52:24 +0100, Peter Turtill 
wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:21:56 +0100, Mark Bluemel
> wrote:
>
>>Peter Turtill wrote:
>>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>>
>>The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may be 
>>able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.
>
>That would fit the bill if it was shore based. I really want private
>tuition per half day where I can drive there, go sailing and then
>drive back. I may even persuade my wife to take lessons too but as
>pensioners we have to take it in easy stages. We want to get better
>and a RYA certificated course is not important as long as the tuition
>is able to show us the best way to sail a Squib.We are being taught
>Squib sailing now but the season is ending and the boats come out of
>the water soon.
>
>pete


Sailing is sailing; sailing a Squib is simply a question of applying
sailing skills to a particular class of vessel. So, asking for courses
specific to a particular class is not going to get many hits! It
sounds like you're interested in generic sailing skills - well, club
sailing is probably your best way forward, or getting an experienced
sailor to take youas crew for a while.

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:03:50 +0100, Paul Cooper
 wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:52:24 +0100, Peter Turtill 
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:21:56 +0100, Mark Bluemel
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Peter Turtill wrote:
>>>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>>>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>>>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>>>
>>>The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may be 
>>>able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.
>>
>>That would fit the bill if it was shore based. I really want private
>>tuition per half day where I can drive there, go sailing and then
>>drive back. I may even persuade my wife to take lessons too but as
>>pensioners we have to take it in easy stages. We want to get better
>>and a RYA certificated course is not important as long as the tuition
>>is able to show us the best way to sail a Squib.We are being taught
>>Squib sailing now but the season is ending and the boats come out of
>>the water soon.
>>
>>pete
>
>
>Sailing is sailing; sailing a Squib is simply a question of applying
>sailing skills to a particular class of vessel. So, asking for courses
>specific to a particular class is not going to get many hits! It
>sounds like you're interested in generic sailing skills - well, club
>sailing is probably your best way forward, or getting an experienced
>sailor to take youas crew for a while.

I am disabled. I cannot expect anyone to take me as crew. I would pay
to be trained to sail a Squib better but I have to be realistic.

pete

We have evidence that on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:56:14 +0100, Peter Turtill
wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:03:50 +0100, Paul Cooper
>  wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:52:24 +0100, Peter Turtill 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:21:56 +0100, Mark Bluemel
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Peter Turtill wrote:
>>>>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>>>>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>>>>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>>>>
>>>>The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may
>>>>be able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.
>>>
>>>That would fit the bill if it was shore based. I really want private
>>>tuition per half day where I can drive there, go sailing and then drive
>>>back. I may even persuade my wife to take lessons too but as pensioners
>>>we have to take it in easy stages. We want to get better and a RYA
>>>certificated course is not important as long as the tuition is able to
>>>show us the best way to sail a Squib.We are being taught Squib sailing
>>>now but the season is ending and the boats come out of the water soon.
>>>
>>>pete
>>
>>
>>Sailing is sailing; sailing a Squib is simply a question of applying
>>sailing skills to a particular class of vessel. So, asking for courses
>>specific to a particular class is not going to get many hits! It sounds
>>like you're interested in generic sailing skills - well, club sailing is
>>probably your best way forward, or getting an experienced sailor to take
>>youas crew for a while.
> 
> I am disabled. I cannot expect anyone to take me as crew. I would pay to
> be trained to sail a Squib better but I have to be realistic.

He's right though, first learn to sail, then learn to sail better, then
learn the finer points of your chosen class. The training course I went on
a while back for my chosen boat didn't teach how to sail, that was
assumed. But AIUI your problem is finding somewhere that does disabled
sailing over the winter and you may have to be a bit relaxed about what
they sail in - our disabled sailing is done in Accesses (and I'm not sure
about a winter programme). And you will, of course, need to be kitted out
with a wet/dry suit and all that jazz.

-- 
Dick Georgeson
Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time
to reform. -- Mark Twain

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:24:38 +0100, Dick Georgeson
 wrote:

>We have evidence that on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:56:14 +0100, Peter Turtill
>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:03:50 +0100, Paul Cooper
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:52:24 +0100, Peter Turtill 
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:21:56 +0100, Mark Bluemel
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Peter Turtill wrote:
>>>>>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>>>>>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>>>>>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>>>>>
>>>>>The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may
>>>>>be able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.
>>>>
>>>>That would fit the bill if it was shore based. I really want private
>>>>tuition per half day where I can drive there, go sailing and then drive
>>>>back. I may even persuade my wife to take lessons too but as pensioners
>>>>we have to take it in easy stages. We want to get better and a RYA
>>>>certificated course is not important as long as the tuition is able to
>>>>show us the best way to sail a Squib.We are being taught Squib sailing
>>>>now but the season is ending and the boats come out of the water soon.
>>>>
>>>>pete
>>>
>>>
>>>Sailing is sailing; sailing a Squib is simply a question of applying
>>>sailing skills to a particular class of vessel. So, asking for courses
>>>specific to a particular class is not going to get many hits! It sounds
>>>like you're interested in generic sailing skills - well, club sailing is
>>>probably your best way forward, or getting an experienced sailor to take
>>>youas crew for a while.
>> 
>> I am disabled. I cannot expect anyone to take me as crew. I would pay to
>> be trained to sail a Squib better but I have to be realistic.
>
>He's right though, first learn to sail, then learn to sail better, then
>learn the finer points of your chosen class. The training course I went on
>a while back for my chosen boat didn't teach how to sail, that was
>assumed. But AIUI your problem is finding somewhere that does disabled
>sailing over the winter and you may have to be a bit relaxed about what
>they sail in - our disabled sailing is done in Accesses (and I'm not sure
>about a winter programme). And you will, of course, need to be kitted out
>with a wet/dry suit and all that jazz.

My wife and I already race Access Dinghies. We race in the Access
Traveler TT and continue sailing those throughout the winter but I
want to improve my sailing in Squibs. I am just looking for a skilled
squib owner in my area (East Anglia) who will teach me to sail a squib
better for a fee. I sail Squibs as a skipper but I really want to sail
much better than I am at the moment.

pete

Peter Turtill wrote:
> 
> My wife and I already race Access Dinghies. We race in the Access
> Traveler TT and continue sailing those throughout the winter but I
> want to improve my sailing in Squibs. I am just looking for a skilled
> squib owner in my area (East Anglia) who will teach me to sail a squib
> better for a fee. I sail Squibs as a skipper but I really want to sail
> much better than I am at the moment.
> 

There is no substitute for time on the water.

I assume you've spoken to Sailability?

Andy

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:01:20 +0100, Andy Champ <no.way@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Peter Turtill wrote:
>> 
>> My wife and I already race Access Dinghies. We race in the Access
>> Traveler TT and continue sailing those throughout the winter but I
>> want to improve my sailing in Squibs. I am just looking for a skilled
>> squib owner in my area (East Anglia) who will teach me to sail a squib
>> better for a fee. I sail Squibs as a skipper but I really want to sail
>> much better than I am at the moment.
>> 
>
>There is no substitute for time on the water.
>
>I assume you've spoken to Sailability?

Hi Andy, yes we are members of Sailability.

pete

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:54:48 +0100, Peter Turtill wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:24:38 +0100, Dick Georgeson
>  wrote:
> 
>>We have evidence that on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:56:14 +0100, Peter Turtill
>>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:03:50 +0100, Paul Cooper
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:52:24 +0100, Peter Turtill 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:21:56 +0100, Mark Bluemel
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter Turtill wrote:
>>>>>>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>>>>>>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>>>>>>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may
>>>>>>be able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.
>>>>>
>>>>>That would fit the bill if it was shore based. I really want private
>>>>>tuition per half day where I can drive there, go sailing and then
>>>>>drive back. I may even persuade my wife to take lessons too but as
>>>>>pensioners we have to take it in easy stages. We want to get better
>>>>>and a RYA certificated course is not important as long as the tuition
>>>>>is able to show us the best way to sail a Squib.We are being taught
>>>>>Squib sailing now but the season is ending and the boats come out of
>>>>>the water soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sailing is sailing; sailing a Squib is simply a question of applying
>>>>sailing skills to a particular class of vessel. So, asking for courses
>>>>specific to a particular class is not going to get many hits! It sounds
>>>>like you're interested in generic sailing skills - well, club sailing
>>>>is probably your best way forward, or getting an experienced sailor to
>>>>take youas crew for a while.
>>> 
>>> I am disabled. I cannot expect anyone to take me as crew. I would pay
>>> to be trained to sail a Squib better but I have to be realistic.
>>
>>He's right though, first learn to sail, then learn to sail better, then
>>learn the finer points of your chosen class. The training course I went
>>on a while back for my chosen boat didn't teach how to sail, that was
>>assumed. But AIUI your problem is finding somewhere that does disabled
>>sailing over the winter and you may have to be a bit relaxed about what
>>they sail in - our disabled sailing is done in Accesses (and I'm not sure
>>about a winter programme). And you will, of course, need to be kitted out
>>with a wet/dry suit and all that jazz.
> 
> My wife and I already race Access Dinghies. We race in the Access Traveler
> TT and continue sailing those throughout the winter but I want to improve
> my sailing in Squibs. I am just looking for a skilled squib owner in my
> area (East Anglia) who will teach me to sail a squib better for a fee. I
> sail Squibs as a skipper but I really want to sail much better than I am
> at the moment.

OK, you're at the learning the finer points stage. Does the Class
Association (or Sailability) organise training days, or would they support
you organising them - assuming you can rope in enough crews to make it
viable. 

I suppose you could approach the class champion (is there a national
championship?) and see where that leads.

-- 
Dick Georgeson
Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time
to reform. -- Mark Twain

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:36:42 +0100, "R. Georgeson" 
wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:54:48 +0100, Peter Turtill wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:24:38 +0100, Dick Georgeson
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>>We have evidence that on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:56:14 +0100, Peter Turtill
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:03:50 +0100, Paul Cooper
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:52:24 +0100, Peter Turtill 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:21:56 +0100, Mark Bluemel
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Peter Turtill wrote:
>>>>>>>> Where can I take a course in Squib Racing? I need to also be taught
>>>>>>>> how to use a spinnaker on a Squib and I cannot find anything on the
>>>>>>>> RYA site. Any ideas anyone please?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Island Cruising Club in Salcombe has a fleet of Squibs. They may
>>>>>>>be able to help you - http://www.icc-salcombe.co.uk/.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That would fit the bill if it was shore based. I really want private
>>>>>>tuition per half day where I can drive there, go sailing and then
>>>>>>drive back. I may even persuade my wife to take lessons too but as
>>>>>>pensioners we have to take it in easy stages. We want to get better
>>>>>>and a RYA certificated course is not important as long as the tuition
>>>>>>is able to show us the best way to sail a Squib.We are being taught
>>>>>>Squib sailing now but the season is ending and the boats come out of
>>>>>>the water soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pete
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sailing is sailing; sailing a Squib is simply a question of applying
>>>>>sailing skills to a particular class of vessel. So, asking for courses
>>>>>specific to a particular class is not going to get many hits! It sounds
>>>>>like you're interested in generic sailing skills - well, club sailing
>>>>>is probably your best way forward, or getting an experienced sailor to
>>>>>take youas crew for a while.
>>>> 
>>>> I am disabled. I cannot expect anyone to take me as crew. I would pay
>>>> to be trained to sail a Squib better but I have to be realistic.
>>>
>>>He's right though, first learn to sail, then learn to sail better, then
>>>learn the finer points of your chosen class. The training course I went
>>>on a while back for my chosen boat didn't teach how to sail, that was
>>>assumed. But AIUI your problem is finding somewhere that does disabled
>>>sailing over the winter and you may have to be a bit relaxed about what
>>>they sail in - our disabled sailing is done in Accesses (and I'm not sure
>>>about a winter programme). And you will, of course, need to be kitted out
>>>with a wet/dry suit and all that jazz.
>> 
>> My wife and I already race Access Dinghies. We race in the Access Traveler
>> TT and continue sailing those throughout the winter but I want to improve
>> my sailing in Squibs. I am just looking for a skilled squib owner in my
>> area (East Anglia) who will teach me to sail a squib better for a fee. I
>> sail Squibs as a skipper but I really want to sail much better than I am
>> at the moment.
>
>OK, you're at the learning the finer points stage. Does the Class
>Association (or Sailability) organise training days, or would they support
>you organising them - assuming you can rope in enough crews to make it
>viable. 
>
>I suppose you could approach the class champion (is there a national
>championship?) and see where that leads.

The problem I face is the place I sail Squibs is about to take it's
boats out of the water for the winter. We have a couple of days left
when we will be taking out disabled children and maybe 3-4 Sundays
when the helpers and skippers race then it is over for the year and it
will be sailing Access Dinghies until next year. We spend the winter
sprucing up the boats on land and next summer I will be a year nearer
the grave:-(

pete

Peter Turtill wrote:

> next summer I will be a year nearer the grave:-(

Dear oh dear, such pessimism.  With that attitude I should think
your racing stands little chance of improving because, though I
don't go in for racing myself, so neither know nor care what it
takes to race well, I would have thought that optimism has a key
role to play.

Don't exaggerate:  Winter is starting.  By the time summer starts,
you will only be *half* a year nearer the grave!  :-)

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:59:52 GMT, Ronald Raygun
<no.spam@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

>Peter Turtill wrote:
>
>> next summer I will be a year nearer the grave:-(
>
>Dear oh dear, such pessimism.  With that attitude I should think
>your racing stands little chance of improving because, though I
>don't go in for racing myself, so neither know nor care what it
>takes to race well, I would have thought that optimism has a key
>role to play.
>
>Don't exaggerate:  Winter is starting.  By the time summer starts,
>you will only be *half* a year nearer the grave!  :-)

Well that has cheered me up as I had not thought of it that way.
Racing is something I do because it improves my sailing ability. My
sailing mainly consists of taking disabled folks out for a couple of
hours in a Squib and the better I sail the better their day will be.
My wife crews with me so we both need to improve our sailing rather
than being competitive. 

pete

Peter Turtill wrote:
> 
> The problem I face is the place I sail Squibs is about to take it's
> boats out of the water for the winter. We have a couple of days left
> when we will be taking out disabled children and maybe 3-4 Sundays
> when the helpers and skippers race then it is over for the year and it
> will be sailing Access Dinghies until next year. We spend the winter
> sprucing up the boats on land and next summer I will be a year nearer
> the grave:-(
> 

There is a gentleman I race against sometimes who can still show a good 
turn of speed in the right conditions - which he picks carefully, I 
admit.  But if he can still sail a Solo in his 9th decade you've 
probably still got a few years left for a Squib.

Andy

>  I am just looking for a skilled
> squib owner in my area (East Anglia) who will teach me to sail a squib
> better for a fee. I sail Squibs as a skipper but I really want to sail
> much better than I am at the moment.
>

If you are in East Anglia, there is an enthusiastic Squib fleet at
Waldringfield. It might be worth contacting the sailing club. They
could put you in touch with the class captain who might be able to
help. Or you can probably google the details.

Regards

Steve

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:52:45 +0100, Andy Champ <no.way@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Peter Turtill wrote:
>> 
>> The problem I face is the place I sail Squibs is about to take it's
>> boats out of the water for the winter. We have a couple of days left
>> when we will be taking out disabled children and maybe 3-4 Sundays
>> when the helpers and skippers race then it is over for the year and it
>> will be sailing Access Dinghies until next year. We spend the winter
>> sprucing up the boats on land and next summer I will be a year nearer
>> the grave:-(
>> 
>
>There is a gentleman I race against sometimes who can still show a good 
>turn of speed in the right conditions - which he picks carefully, I 
>admit.  But if he can still sail a Solo in his 9th decade you've 
>probably still got a few years left for a Squib.

Hopefully you are correct but we both ache more after each sail and
each year makes it worse:-)

pete

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:32:57 -0700 (PDT), SteveW
 wrote:

>>  I am just looking for a skilled
>> squib owner in my area (East Anglia) who will teach me to sail a squib
>> better for a fee. I sail Squibs as a skipper but I really want to sail
>> much better than I am at the moment.
>>
>
>If you are in East Anglia, there is an enthusiastic Squib fleet at
>Waldringfield. It might be worth contacting the sailing club. They
>could put you in touch with the class captain who might be able to
>help. Or you can probably google the details.

They helped us out a bit recently with helpers when we were short
handed. My wife and I have been out with the Squib fleet on the Orwell
today. Dame Ellen MacAthur came along and she was absolutely
brilliant. She started her sailing when she was about 4 years old just
up the river at Woolverstone. I really admire and appreciate the way
she seemed to ignore her minders and spent so much time with the
disabled children we take out regularly. Everybody wanted a slice of
her time except the children who seemed resigned to being ignored but
it was the children she singled out to spend time with. I certainly
look forward to her return. The Trust then got around to talking about
racing and it seems we are going to be trained with them after all.
Not a bad day at all.

pete