OK where do we start?

How about with the jokes? I think I've heard em all, but there may be 
some new ones....

My CX500 Eurosport has been dry stored for the last 18 years,my dad has 
managed to destroy the top of the right front fork top, but apart from 
that it's still in one piece. Where does the panel suggest i start to 
uncocoon apart from the obvious plugs, oil, filter , carbs etc...?

Marc wrote:

> OK where do we start?
> 
> How about with the jokes? I think I've heard em all, but there may be
> some new ones....
> 
> My CX500 Eurosport has been dry stored for the last 18 years,my dad
> has managed to destroy the top of the right front fork top, but apart
> from that it's still in one piece. Where does the panel suggest i
> start to uncocoon apart from the obvious plugs, oil, filter , carbs
> etc...?

I think I'd start with "You are bidding on...".

-- 
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i  '02 MV Senna  '96 Tiger (for sale) 
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:17:25 +0100, Marc
 wrote:

>OK where do we start?
>
>How about with the jokes? I think I've heard em all, but there may be 
>some new ones....

>My CX500 Eurosport has been dry stored for the last 18 years,my dad has 
>managed to destroy the top of the right front fork top, but apart from 
>that it's still in one piece. Where does the panel suggest i start to 
>uncocoon apart from the obvious plugs, oil, filter , carbs etc...?

Crikey.  Well, I've no personal regard for CX500s - I always hated
them bak in the 80s.  But lots of people didn't, and if yours was in
good condition when you put it away, and hasn't corroded too much in
storage, then it could be worth proper money my now.

The key thing is - did you drain the carbs before you stored it?  If
not, then they wll be horribly gunged up up with the varnish like
stuff that petrol leaves behind when it evaporates in small places.
Potentially the carbs cab be recovered with ultrasonic cleaning, but
you have to strip them.

Otherwise - I'd just try and see if it will go.  It ought to have new
oil and filter before you ride it around, but I wouldn't do that
before I got it started.  It's definitely going to need a new battery,
and you should drain the tank (if not already done) and give it a good
head of fresh new fuel, and see what happens.

If you get it started, then you should change the oil and filter.  And
also check the tyres - they've probably perished a bit too, and
anyway, tyres have come on a *lot* in 20 years.

Keep us posted...
-- 
Champ

ZX10R (road), ZX10R (race; breaking), GPz750 turbo (classic) Hayabusa (touring)
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:17:25 +0100, Marc
>  wrote:
> 
>> OK where do we start?
>>
>> How about with the jokes? I think I've heard em all, but there may be 
>> some new ones....
> 
>> My CX500 Eurosport has been dry stored for the last 18 years,my dad has 
>> managed to destroy the top of the right front fork top, but apart from 
>> that it's still in one piece. Where does the panel suggest i start to 
>> uncocoon apart from the obvious plugs, oil, filter , carbs etc...?
> 
> Crikey.  Well, I've no personal regard for CX500s - I always hated
> them bak in the 80s.  But lots of people didn't, and if yours was in
> good condition when you put it away, and hasn't corroded too much in
> storage, then it could be worth proper money my now.

That I doubt this Silver Wing hasn't got any bids at £780
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260453603638
and it's a real one as opposed to my Eurosport with Pantera and Kraussers
> 
> The key thing is - did you drain the carbs before you stored it?  If
> not, then they wll be horribly gunged up up with the varnish like
> stuff that petrol leaves behind when it evaporates in small places.
> Potentially the carbs cab be recovered with ultrasonic cleaning, but
> you have to strip them.

Of course I didn't. I parked it up after the 1991? "Unsatisfied Virgins 
Rally ( Too Drunk to fuck)" and then my son was born, 1 month turned 
into 10 into a year, into years, into a decade etc.....
> 
> Otherwise - I'd just try and see if it will go.  It ought to have new
> oil and filter before you ride it around, but I wouldn't do that
> before I got it started.  It's definitely going to need a new battery,
> and you should drain the tank (if not already done) and give it a good
> head of fresh new fuel, and see what happens.
> 
> If you get it started, then you should change the oil and filter.  And
> also check the tyres - they've probably perished a bit too, and
> anyway, tyres have come on a *lot* in 20 years.

Hmm brand new set of RoadRunners less than 100 miles on em, but 18 years 
of plastomer leaching has probably made them as hard as a hard wooden thing
> 
> Keep us posted...

Yes....  A winter project once I get the essays  finished and find 
either a new fork stanchion or a new air cap.

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:39:25 +0100, Marc
 wrote:

>Yes....  A winter project once I get the essays  finished and find 
>either a new fork stanchion or a new air cap.

As Champ says, but also look out for water on top of the crankcase
behind the cylinders after getting it running and  for a few weeks
afterwards: the water pump mechanical seal might not like being left
un-turned for such a long time - they always were a weak spot on CX's.
This is just a precaution, BTW; Ive' no experience of a CX motor
that's been left that long.

-- 
-Pip

Pip Luscher wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:39:25 +0100, Marc
>  wrote:
> 
>> Yes....  A winter project once I get the essays  finished and find 
>> either a new fork stanchion or a new air cap.
> 
> As Champ says, but also look out for water on top of the crankcase
> behind the cylinders after getting it running and  for a few weeks
> afterwards: the water pump mechanical seal might not like being left
> un-turned for such a long time - they always were a weak spot on CX's.
> This is just a precaution, BTW; Ive' no experience of a CX motor
> that's been left that long.
> 
I doubt many people have.

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:39:25 +0100, Marc
 wrote:

>> Crikey.  Well, I've no personal regard for CX500s - I always hated
>> them bak in the 80s.  But lots of people didn't, and if yours was in
>> good condition when you put it away, and hasn't corroded too much in
>> storage, then it could be worth proper money my now.
>
>That I doubt this Silver Wing hasn't got any bids at £780
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260453603638
>and it's a real one as opposed to my Eurosport with Pantera and Kraussers

Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.

I'd be interested in TOG's view on this.


-- 
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ wrote:
> 
> Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
> liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.
> 

Indeed, I had a maggot in about 1984 and tried a mate's Silver Wing. It 
was vile.

Champ  wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:39:25 +0100, Marc
>  wrote:
> 
> >> Crikey.  Well, I've no personal regard for CX500s - I always hated
> >> them bak in the 80s.  But lots of people didn't, and if yours was in
> >> good condition when you put it away, and hasn't corroded too much in
> >> storage, then it could be worth proper money my now.
> >
> >That I doubt this Silver Wing hasn't got any bids at £780
> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&
> >item=260453603638 and it's a real one as opposed to my Eurosport with
> >Pantera and Kraussers
> 
> Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
> liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.
> 
> I'd be interested in TOG's view on this.

I nearly bid on that, actually, and then I thought: "Why? It's a Gold
Wing powered by a 500cc engine?"

The 650 might be worth considering, but it's ultra-rare. The 500 is just
a helluva lot of bike being pushed fitfully along by not much engine, a
bit like a BMW R45 with an RT fairing.


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Higgins wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>>
>> Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
>> liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.
>>
>
> Indeed, I had a maggot in about 1984 and tried a mate's Silver Wing.
> It was vile.

The CX650E really wasn't a bad bike in the day. I can't recall if the 
camchain weakness persisted from the 500. Front end/brakes were 
reasonable for the day and I liked those wheels.

-- 
Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12  '89 R100RS  '81 XS650  '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Champ  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:39:25 +0100, Marc
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>> Crikey.  Well, I've no personal regard for CX500s - I always hated
>>>> them bak in the 80s.  But lots of people didn't, and if yours was
>>>> in good condition when you put it away, and hasn't corroded too
>>>> much in storage, then it could be worth proper money my now.
>>>
>>> That I doubt this Silver Wing hasn't got any bids at £780
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&
>>> item=260453603638 and it's a real one as opposed to my Eurosport
>>> with Pantera and Kraussers
>>
>> Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
>> liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.
>>
>> I'd be interested in TOG's view on this.
>
> I nearly bid on that, actually, and then I thought: "Why? It's a Gold
> Wing powered by a 500cc engine?"
>
> The 650 might be worth considering, but it's ultra-rare. The 500 is
> just a helluva lot of bike being pushed fitfully along by not much
> engine, a bit like a BMW R45 with an RT fairing.

Elefant....
item 300335138791

-- 
Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12  '89 R100RS  '81 XS650  '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit

Hog wrote:
> Higgins wrote:
>> Champ wrote:
>>> Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
>>> liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.
>>>
>> Indeed, I had a maggot in about 1984 and tried a mate's Silver Wing.
>> It was vile.
> 
> The CX650E really wasn't a bad bike in the day.
Vibrated more than the 500
  I can't recall if the
> camchain weakness persisted from the 500.

It didn't, in fact the camchain problem was restricted to the early 500s

  Front end/brakes were
> reasonable for the day and I liked those wheels.
>

On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:05:07 +0100, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The
Older Gentleman) wrote:

>> >> Crikey.  Well, I've no personal regard for CX500s - I always hated
>> >> them bak in the 80s.  But lots of people didn't, and if yours was in
>> >> good condition when you put it away, and hasn't corroded too much in
>> >> storage, then it could be worth proper money my now.

>> >That I doubt this Silver Wing hasn't got any bids at £780
>> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&
>> >item=260453603638 and it's a real one as opposed to my Eurosport with
>> >Pantera and Kraussers
>> 
>> Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
>> liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.
>> 
>> I'd be interested in TOG's view on this.

>I nearly bid on that, actually, and then I thought: "Why? It's a Gold
>Wing powered by a 500cc engine?"

I actually meant - what's your view on a CX500 Eurosport that's been
decently stored for 18 years?  Would it be worth money?
-- 
Champ

ZX10R (road), ZX10R (race; breaking), GPz750 turbo (classic) Hayabusa (touring)
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:05:07 +0100, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The
> Older Gentleman) wrote:
> 
>>>>> Crikey.  Well, I've no personal regard for CX500s - I always hated
>>>>> them bak in the 80s.  But lots of people didn't, and if yours was in
>>>>> good condition when you put it away, and hasn't corroded too much in
>>>>> storage, then it could be worth proper money my now.
> 
>>>> That I doubt this Silver Wing hasn't got any bids at £780
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&
>>>> item=260453603638 and it's a real one as opposed to my Eurosport with
>>>> Pantera and Kraussers
>>> Yeah but the Silver Wing was considered horrible even by people who
>>> liked CX500s.  I think the Eurosport was much more popular.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in TOG's view on this.
> 
>> I nearly bid on that, actually, and then I thought: "Why? It's a Gold
>> Wing powered by a 500cc engine?"
> 
> I actually meant - what's your view on a CX500 Eurosport that's been
> decently stored for 18 years?  Would it be worth money?
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