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date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:56:26 +0100,    group: uk.rec.motorcycles.classic        back       
Incredible Creation...   
It will be well worth registering on Phil Hawksleys BMW site...
www.bmbikes.org just to take a peep at this......it proves that the spirit 
of engineering inventiveness is still alive and well in the Hop fields....

Take a look here....
http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7934

Any opinions ??
date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:56:26 +0100   author:   Alek Smart.

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Alek Smart.  wrote:

> It will be well worth registering on Phil Hawksleys BMW site...
> www.bmbikes.org just to take a peep at this......it proves that the spirit
> of engineering inventiveness is still alive and well in the Hop fields....
> 
> Take a look here....
> http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7934
> 
> Any opinions ??

My opinion is that you're a fuckwit for posting a url that requires a
login. But maybe it's just me.



-- 
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....
date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:13:17 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Incredible Creation...   
On Sep 23, 2:13 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> Alek Smart.  wrote:
> > It will be well worth registering on Phil Hawksleys BMW site...
> >www.bmbikes.orgjust to take a peep at this......it proves that the spirit
> > of engineering inventiveness is still alive and well in the Hop fields.> > Take a look here....
> >http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7934
>
> > Any opinions ??
>
> My opinion is that you're a fuckwit for posting a url that requires a
> login. But maybe it's just me.
>
And posting one that's not complete.......

--
Speedgazebo
date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Speedgazebo

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Speedgazebo  wrote:

> On Sep 23, 2:13 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > Alek Smart.  wrote:
> > > It will be well worth registering on Phil Hawksleys BMW site...
> > >www.bmbikes.orgjust to take a peep at this......it proves that the spirit
> > > of engineering inventiveness is still alive and well in the Hop fields....
> >
> > > Take a look here....
> > >http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7934
> >
> > > Any opinions ??
> >
> > My opinion is that you're a fuckwit for posting a url that requires a
> > login. But maybe it's just me.
> >
> And posting one that's not complete.......
> 
OK, so the score is two-zero in favour of him being a spacker. Any more?

-- 
BMW K1100LT  Ducati 750SS  Yamaha XT600E  Honda CB400F & SH50
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....
date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:51:11 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Incredible Creation...   
The message <1inqhhk.oykrnpbjt2olN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk>
from totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) contains these
words:
> Speedgazebo  wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 2:13 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> > Gentleman) wrote:
> > > Alek Smart.  wrote:
> > > > It will be well worth registering on Phil Hawksleys BMW site...
> > > >www.bmbikes.orgjust to take a peep at this......it proves that
> > > >the spirit
> > > > of engineering inventiveness is still alive and well in the Hop
> > > > fields....
> > >
> > > > Take a look here....
> > > >http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7934
> > >
> > > > Any opinions ??
> > >
> > > My opinion is that you're a fuckwit for posting a url that requires a
> > > login. But maybe it's just me.
> > >
> > And posting one that's not complete.......
> > 
> OK, so the score is two-zero in favour of him being a spacker. Any more?

Well, he *SAYS* he's a Smart Alek.

Depends whether it's moron oxy, or purbole hy.

-- 
Rusty
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date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:44:43 +0100   author:   Rusty Hinge 2

Re: Incredible Creation...   
The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Speedgazebo  wrote:
> 
> > On Sep 23, 2:13 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> > Gentleman) wrote:
> > > Alek Smart.  wrote:
> > > > It will be well worth registering on Phil Hawksleys BMW site...
> > > > www.bmbikes.orgjust to take a peep at this......it proves that
> > > > the spirit of engineering inventiveness is still alive and well
> > > > in the Hop fields....
> > > 
> > > > Take a look here....
> > > > http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7934
> > > 
> > > > Any opinions ??
> > > 
> > > My opinion is that you're a fuckwit for posting a url that
> > > requires a login. But maybe it's just me.
> > > 
> > And posting one that's not complete.......
> > 
> OK, so the score is two-zero in favour of him being a spacker. Any
> more?

To be fair, at least he said you'd need to register. So I'll vote for a
half-spack.

-- 
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
Off-Road Classifieds

'02 MV Senna  '03 Tiger 955i  '96 Tiger  '79 Fantic Hiro 250
date: 23 Sep 2008 20:16:42 GMT   author:   Krusty lid

Re: Incredible Creation...   
OOOps...ok then  as curmudgeonly traits are said to get more noticeable as 
gentlemen age....I doff my cap to you all....

www.bmbikes.org.uk

The machine in question does appear to be an inventively modified one but 
does it stir any emotions..???
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:14:06 +0100   author:   Alek Smart.

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Alek Smart.  wrote:

> OOOps...ok then  as curmudgeonly traits are said to get more noticeable as
> gentlemen age....I doff my cap to you all....
> 
> www.bmbikes.org.uk

"Error 403 - Forbidden

You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges."

You're definitely a fuckwit.

-- 
BMW K1100LT  Ducati 750SS  Yamaha XT600E  Honda CB400F & SH50
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:50:00 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Oh well,that being said,I found the machine to be of interest...

BMW R ??  with leading link front forks.
R45 engine with Guzzi 750 Pistons in shortened sleeved barrels...22Ltr fuel 
tank and a decidedly snake like `zaust.

All for £1200..... :)

Come to think of it Error 403 could well have been what Adam saw just before 
he bit the Apple ??
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:26:54 +0100   author:   Alek Smart.

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Alek Smart.  wrote:

> R45

I lost interest right here.


-- 
BMW K1100LT  Ducati 750SS  Yamaha XT600E  Honda CB400F & SH50
GHPOTHUF#1 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom
Nothing is more dangerous than an ignoramus with a workshop
manual, a 'can-do' attitude and a cheap set of tools
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:19:27 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Incredible Creation...   
R45...Amazing just how popular these machines are back in the Rhineland....I 
know they had some form of Taxation band which led to a certain 
popularity,but a quich trawl through  ebay.de shows skip fulls of them 
awaiting new owners.... :)

A group purchase perhaps ..???
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:55:36 +0100   author:   Alek Smart.

Re: Incredible Creation...   
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Alek Smart." 
saying something like:

>OOOps...ok then  as curmudgeonly traits are said to get more noticeable as 
>gentlemen age....I doff my cap to you all....
>
>www.bmbikes.org.uk

403 ffs.

Look, just copy a pic of the thing to flickr or somesuch and post a
link.
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:49:05 +0100   author:   Grimly Curmudgeon

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Alek Smart. wrote:

> OOOps...ok then  as curmudgeonly traits are said to get more
> noticeable as gentlemen age....I doff my cap to you all....
> 
> www.bmbikes.org.uk
> 
> The machine in question does appear to be an inventively modified one
> but does it stir any emotions..???

You wouldn't be spamming would you? Only the first link appeared to be
a forum post, which you've now apparently managed to stick on the
homepage (even though you didn't manage it, iyswim). That would tend to
indicate you have some control over the site.

-- 
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
Off-Road Classifieds

'02 MV Senna  '03 Tiger 955i  '96 Tiger  '79 Fantic Hiro 250
date: 25 Sep 2008 14:57:16 GMT   author:   Krusty lid

Re: Incredible Creation...   
The message 
from "Alek Smart."  contains these words:

> R45...Amazing just how popular these machines are back in the
> Rhineland....I 
> know they had some form of Taxation band which led to a certain 
> popularity,but a quich trawl through  ebay.de shows skip fulls of them 
> awaiting new owners.... :)

> A group purchase perhaps ..??? 

More likely a mass dumping...

-- 
Rusty
Men love women, women love children, children love hamsters.
(Alice Thomas Ellis)
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:01:37 +0100   author:   Rusty Hinge

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Krusty wrote:
> Alek Smart. wrote:
>
>> OOOps...ok then  as curmudgeonly traits are said to get more
>> noticeable as gentlemen age....I doff my cap to you all....
>>
>> www.bmbikes.org.uk
>>
>> The machine in question does appear to be an inventively modified one
>> but does it stir any emotions..???
>
> You wouldn't be spamming would you? Only the first link appeared to be
> a forum post, which you've now apparently managed to stick on the
> homepage (even though you didn't manage it, iyswim). That would tend
> to indicate you have some control over the site.

This seems to work:

http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7933

If it doesn't, go to http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/index.htm

Enter, click on "The Forum", Enter Forum at the bottom of the page, scroll 
down to General Motorcycle Chat, then topic "What do you think of this?", 
about 4 or 5 from the top.

I should warn you, it's fucking hideous.
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:15:00 GMT   author:   platypus

Re: Incredible Creation...   
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "platypus"
 saying something like:

>http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7933

>I should warn you, it's fucking hideous.

Jezus. You're not wrong.
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:18:06 +0100   author:   Grimly Curmudgeon

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Thank you Platypus for your assistance and opinion.....
It sure does look an odd machine and I wonder what its engine 
characteristics are....revvy or,like myself,just plain lazy ?

Still,it must have been a labour of love for somebody... :)
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:21:58 +0100   author:   Alek Smart.

Re: Incredible Creation...   
platypus wrote:

> This seems to work:
> 
> http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7933

Fuck me rigid, that is quite possibly the most disgusting (& most
pointless) bike I've ever seen.


-- 
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
Off-Road Classifieds

'02 MV Senna  '03 Tiger 955i  '96 Tiger  '79 Fantic Hiro 250
date: 25 Sep 2008 23:51:24 GMT   author:   Krusty lid

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Alek Smart. wrote:
> Thank you Platypus for your assistance and opinion.....
> It sure does look an odd machine and I wonder what its engine
> characteristics are....revvy or,like myself,just plain lazy ?

Considering the bottom end only, the R45/R65 unit was a shorter stroke than 
other airheads, with relatively long conrods, both of which would promote 
revviness.  Obviously, that's not the whole story - if it has R45 heads, 
carbs, cam etc, and a homebrewed exhaust, it's probably a revvy, asthmatic 
slug, especially with an overgeared final drive.  The leading link front end 
is an amusing contrast to the old twin-shock rear end.

Seriously, it's like a cry for help.  Why go to the bother of putting 
shortened Guzzi pistons in bored-out R45 barrels when you can simply go out 
and buy an R65?  Why bother putting a tall rear end on?  To save fuel? 
Surely a Nissan Micra would be a better solution?  Why the enormously ugly 
tank, when the relatively elegant standard tank holds 22 litres?  And that 
seat unit thing: OMFG.

I honestly can't see the point.  A stock R65 will do everything that thing 
will do, at a fraction of the cost and effort, and you'll be able to mount 
panniers on it.  The Volapuke Express there may do 300 miles at a sitting, 
but even 300 miles away, children will still throw stones, and dogs will 
still bark at its shadow.

> Still,it must have been a labour of love for somebody... :)

It's a particularly fine example of the taste for which there is no 
accounting.
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:51:31 GMT   author:   platypus

Re: Incredible Creation...   
platypus  wrote:

> I should warn you, it's fucking hideous.

You're not wrong.


-- 
BMW K1100LT  Ducati 750SS  Yamaha XT600E  Honda CB400F & SH50
GHPOTHUF#1 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom
Nothing is more dangerous than an ignoramus with a workshop
manual, a 'can-do' attitude and a cheap set of tools
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:42:37 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Incredible Creation...   
On or around Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:50:00 +0100, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) enlightened us thusly:

>Alek Smart.  wrote:
>
>> OOOps...ok then  as curmudgeonly traits are said to get more noticeable as
>> gentlemen age....I doff my cap to you all....
>> 
>> www.bmbikes.org.uk
>
>"Error 403 - Forbidden
>
>You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges."
>
>You're definitely a fuckwit.

hmmm.  he might simply be not as clued as some of us about how web things
work.  benefit of the doubt, in this case, I think.
-- 
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date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:34:28 +0100   author:   Austin Shackles

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Austin Shackles  wrote:

> On or around Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:50:00 +0100, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk
> (The Older Gentleman) enlightened us thusly:
> 
> >Alek Smart.  wrote:
> >
> >> OOOps...ok then  as curmudgeonly traits are said to get more noticeable as
> >> gentlemen age....I doff my cap to you all....
> >> 
> >> www.bmbikes.org.uk
> >
> >"Error 403 - Forbidden
> >
> >You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges."
> >
> >You're definitely a fuckwit.
> 
> hmmm.  he might simply be not as clued as some of us about how web things
> work.  benefit of the doubt, in this case, I think.

<Grudging mode>

Yer, orlright.

-- 
BMW K1100LT  Ducati 750SS  Yamaha XT600E  Honda CB400F & SH50
GHPOTHUF#1 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom
Nothing is more dangerous than an ignoramus with a workshop
manual, a 'can-do' attitude and a cheap set of tools
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:06:13 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Thus spake Grimly Curmudgeon (grimly4REMOVE@removegmail.com) unto the assembled multitudes:

>>http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7933

>>I should warn you, it's fucking hideous.

> Jezus. You're not wrong.

Somewhat bizarrely, the first words to come to mind when I saw it were
"plums and custard"...

-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
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date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:21:03 +0000 (UTC)   author:   unknown

Re: Incredible Creation...   
In article <E3UCk.62974$E41.44426@text.news.virginmedia.com>, platypus 
 writes

>This seems to work:
>http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7933

I wish it hadn't now. :-o
-- 
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date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:37:42 GMT   author:   SpamTrapSeeSig

Re: Incredible Creation...   
The message <gbid2f$f56$2@south.jnrs.ja.net>
from A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk contains these words:
> Thus spake Grimly Curmudgeon (grimly4REMOVE@removegmail.com) unto the
> assembled multitudes:

> >>http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7933

> >>I should warn you, it's fucking hideous.

> > Jezus. You're not wrong.

> Somewhat bizarrely, the first words to come to mind when I saw it were
> "plums and custard"...

"plums and custard" An edible fungus not highly rated by mycological
conny sewers.

-- 
Rusty
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date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:52:19 +0100   author:   Rusty Hinge 2

Re: Incredible Creation...   
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus 
 typed
>
>http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7933
>
>I should warn you, it's fucking hideous.

Coming from you, I should have taken that warning more seriously.

I feel unwell.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:21:17 +0100   author:   Wicked Uncle Nigel

Re: Incredible Creation...   
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:51:31 GMT, "platypus"
 wrote:

>I honestly can't see the point.  A stock R65 will do everything that thing 
>will do, at a fraction of the cost and effort, and you'll be able to mount 
>panniers on it.  The Volapuke Express there may do 300 miles at a sitting, 
>but even 300 miles away, children will still throw stones, and dogs will 
>still bark at its shadow.

LOL!

<owww.  It hurts to laugh, you cnut>
-- 
Champ
date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:17:42 +0100   author:   Champ

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