Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
her work experience next year, so I looked up options.

It's either three buses, or train and two buses!

The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're assuming
she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).

The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
at a suitable time).

WTF?

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

Andy Hewitt wrote:
> Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
> her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
> 
> It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
> 
> The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're assuming
> she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
> to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
> 10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
> Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).
> 
> The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
> York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
> at a suitable time).
> 
> WTF?

bbzzzzztt - repetition!

GINGE!

-- 


Nige,

BMW K1200S
Range Rover Vogue

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Nige 
 typed
>Andy Hewitt wrote:
>> Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
>> her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
>>  It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
>>  The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're 
>>assuming
>> she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
>> to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
>> 10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
>> Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).
>>  The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
>> York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
>> at a suitable time).
>>  WTF?
>
>bbzzzzztt - repetition!
>
>GINGE!

What the *fuck* are you wibbling about, you Northern twat?

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

can you see the light of need shinin' in my eye?

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Nige
>  typed
>> Andy Hewitt wrote:
>>> Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
>>> her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
>>>  It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
>>>  The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're
>>> assuming
>>> she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
>>> to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
>>> 10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
>>> Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).
>>>  The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
>>> York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
>>> at a suitable time).
>>>  WTF?
>> 
>> bbzzzzztt - repetition!
>> 
>> GINGE!
> 
> What the *fuck* are you wibbling about, you Northern twat?

It's been a long day.....

-- 


Nige,

BMW K1200S
Range Rover Vogue

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:07:06 +0000, Andy Hewitt squeezed out the
following:

>Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
>her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
>
>It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
>
>The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're assuming
>she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
>to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
>10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
>Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).
>
>The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
>York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
>at a suitable time).
>
>WTF?

The Travel Line journey planner immediately threw up a Northern Rail
train leaving Bridlington 7:47 arriving Scarborough 8:29. Worth
checking out?

-- 
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

Colin Irvine  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:07:06 +0000, Andy Hewitt squeezed out the
> following:
> 
> >Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
> >her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
> >
> >It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
> >
> >The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're assuming
> >she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
> >to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
> >10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
> >Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).
> >
> >The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
> >York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
> >at a suitable time).
> >
> >WTF?
> 
> The Travel Line journey planner immediately threw up a Northern Rail
> train leaving Bridlington 7:47 arriving Scarborough 8:29. Worth
> checking out?

I was on the Northern Rail web site, and just tried the opposite route,
and still get the same, in fact, I got one of 10hrs 50mins this time,
but otherwise, all at 3hrs+.

They seem to have forgotten about the bit of track that's actually
there!

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:07:06 +0000, thewildrover@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
wrote:

>Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
>her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
>
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/eNRT/May09/timetables/Table43.pdf

Note that the timetable changes from 13 December 2009 and it's not yet
available on the Network Rail site. Shouldn't be long before it is there
though.

No idea what is going wrong with the National Rail journey planner - it
generated garbage for me.  I'm not aware there is any engineering work
on that route as that would be the obvious reason why it could kick out
a nonsensical answer.
-- 
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VFR800 | ZX6R | R1150GS 
BOD#5, two#4, BOTAFOT#23, BOTAFOF#4, URMSBC#09, COFF#09 
Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:07:06 +0000, thewildrover@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
> wrote:
> 
> >Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
> >her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
> >
>
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/eNRT/May09/timetables/Ta
ble43.pdf

Righto, cheers. So, just one commuter train then!

> Note that the timetable changes from 13 December 2009 and it's not yet
> available on the Network Rail site. Shouldn't be long before it is there
> though.
> 
> No idea what is going wrong with the National Rail journey planner - it
> generated garbage for me.  I'm not aware there is any engineering work
> on that route as that would be the obvious reason why it could kick out
> a nonsensical answer.

I tried that and just got a non-existant route. I wonder if there is
something that's got it blocked at the moment.

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

Andy Hewitt spoke:
> > The Travel Line journey planner immediately threw up a Northern Rail
> > train leaving Bridlington 7:47 arriving Scarborough 8:29. Worth
> > checking out?
> 
> I was on the Northern Rail web site, and just tried the opposite route,
> and still get the same, in fact, I got one of 10hrs 50mins this time,
> but otherwise, all at 3hrs+.
> 
> They seem to have forgotten about the bit of track that's actually
> there!

I remember when I worked in Dunstable, my flat was within 400m of 
Leagrave station and in theory I could get a train from there to 
Nottingham thence across to Newark, but no-way could I get that route on 
the web - no way could I get *any* route which did not take me into 
London first.

-- 
Rob_P
UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
uppercase(d)  BBIWYMC#1  BOG#11?  MRO#31  IBCDBBB#1(kotl)
FJ1200,  CCM130    Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
Looks like Rab C Nesbit.

R C Nesbit  wrote:

> Andy Hewitt spoke:
> > > The Travel Line journey planner immediately threw up a Northern Rail
> > > train leaving Bridlington 7:47 arriving Scarborough 8:29. Worth
> > > checking out?
> > 
> > I was on the Northern Rail web site, and just tried the opposite route,
> > and still get the same, in fact, I got one of 10hrs 50mins this time,
> > but otherwise, all at 3hrs+.
> > 
> > They seem to have forgotten about the bit of track that's actually
> > there!
> 
> I remember when I worked in Dunstable, my flat was within 400m of 
> Leagrave station and in theory I could get a train from there to 
> Nottingham thence across to Newark, but no-way could I get that route on
> the web - no way could I get *any* route which did not take me into 
> London first.

The annoying bit here is that we actually know people that use the
service - but how?

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

Andy Hewitt spoke:
> > I remember when I worked in Dunstable, my flat was within 400m of 
> > Leagrave station and in theory I could get a train from there to 
> > Nottingham thence across to Newark, but no-way could I get that route on
> > the web - no way could I get *any* route which did not take me into 
> > London first.
> 
> The annoying bit here is that we actually know people that use the
> service - but how?

Perhaps they don't have tinternet and rely on going to the station and 
asking a human bean?
;)

-- 
Rob_P
UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
uppercase(d)  BBIWYMC#1  BOG#11?  MRO#31  IBCDBBB#1(kotl)
FJ1200,  CCM130    Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
Looks like Rab C Nesbit.

On 4 Nov, 10:23, R C Nesbit  wrote:

> I remember when I worked in Dunstable, my flat was within 400m of
> Leagrave station and in theory I could get a train from there to
> Nottingham thence across to Newark, but no-way could I get that route on
> the web - no way could I get *any* route which did not take me into
> London first.

Yeah mate had that the other week - St. Albans to Nottingham. I think
there's a bug in the Nottingham calculations as they (he phoned up)
wanted him to go into London and back out despite it being possible to
get the train to Bedford and change there for a direct train to
Nottingham. He only did this because I knew of it and was there to
help! Cut three hours off his journey time :)

fishman wrote:

> Yeah mate had that the other week - St. Albans to Nottingham. I think
> there's a bug in the Nottingham calculations as they (he phoned up)
> wanted him to go into London and back out despite it being possible to
> get the train to Bedford and change there for a direct train to
> Nottingham. He only did this because I knew of it and was there to
> help! Cut three hours off his journey time :)

As I still had nationalrail.co.uk open at the time I read this, I just
tried it:

St Albans - Luton Airport Parkway - Nottingham : 2h 05m

-- 
Chris

On 4 Nov, 16:06, "CT"  wrote:

> As I still had nationalrail.co.uk open at the time I read this, I just
> tried it:
>
> St Albans - Luton Airport Parkway - Nottingham : 2h 05m

It was a Sunday when he enquired, works on the line somewhere was the
reason given. And like I said, he did phone up rather than use the web.

R C Nesbit  wrote:

> Andy Hewitt spoke:
> > > I remember when I worked in Dunstable, my flat was within 400m of
> > > Leagrave station and in theory I could get a train from there to 
> > > Nottingham thence across to Newark, but no-way could I get that route on
> > > the web - no way could I get *any* route which did not take me into
> > > London first.
> > 
> > The annoying bit here is that we actually know people that use the
> > service - but how?
> 
> Perhaps they don't have tinternet and rely on going to the station and
> asking a human bean?
> ;)

I'd expect that is the case :-)

FWIW, my mum has travelled up and down a few times over the years, and
we've always found that better deals can be got by buying at the
stations.

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:31:25 +0000, thewildrover@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
wrote:

>Paul Corfield  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:07:06 +0000, thewildrover@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
>> >her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
>> >
>>
>http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/eNRT/May09/timetables/Ta
>ble43.pdf
>
>Righto, cheers. So, just one commuter train then!

It would seem so. I would also imagine that it will be rather busy!
Northern Rail are still seeing patronage increases on their services
despite the recession.

>> Note that the timetable changes from 13 December 2009 and it's not yet
>> available on the Network Rail site. Shouldn't be long before it is there
>> though.
>> 
>> No idea what is going wrong with the National Rail journey planner - it
>> generated garbage for me.  I'm not aware there is any engineering work
>> on that route as that would be the obvious reason why it could kick out
>> a nonsensical answer.
>
>I tried that and just got a non-existant route. I wonder if there is
>something that's got it blocked at the moment.

I don't know. Much as I hate to say it the National Rail site can be
troublesome but I cannot understand why a direct journey as in your
example would not show up properly.
-- 
Paul C - "the big camp bastard" (tm d.a.r.s.y) 
VFR800 | ZX6R | R1150GS 
BOD#5, two#4, BOTAFOT#23, BOTAFOF#4, URMSBC#09, COFF#09 
Admits to working for London Underground!

In message <1j8mhry.5vetpo1wggmq4N%thewildrover@me.com>, Andy Hewitt 
 writes
>Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
>her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
>
>It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
>
>The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're assuming
>she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
>to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
>10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
>Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).
>
>The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
>York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
>at a suitable time).
>
>WTF?
>
Shame it's this late in the year otherwise I'd bet the Scarborough-York 
steam service would be quicker.
-- 
Tim

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:07:06 +0000, thewildrover@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
wrote:

>Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
>her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
>
>It's either three buses, or train and two buses!

No it isn't. It's one bus and direct.

http://www.eyms.co.uk/documents/timetables/[279]EY%20121%20TT%20WINTER%20web.pdf

Slower than the train I grant you but worth knowing about as a fall back
option.
-- 
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VFR800 | ZX6R | R1150GS 
BOD#5, two#4, BOTAFOT#23, BOTAFOF#4, URMSBC#09, COFF#09 
Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:31:25 +0000, thewildrover@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
> wrote:
[..]
> >http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/eNRT/May09/timetables/Ta
> >ble43.pdf
> >
> >Righto, cheers. So, just one commuter train then!
> 
> It would seem so. I would also imagine that it will be rather busy!
> Northern Rail are still seeing patronage increases on their services
> despite the recession.

Well, yes, the only commuter service of the day would be busy I suppose.

[..]
> >I tried that and just got a non-existant route. I wonder if there is
> >something that's got it blocked at the moment.
> 
> I don't know. Much as I hate to say it the National Rail site can be
> troublesome but I cannot understand why a direct journey as in your
> example would not show up properly.

Or indeed, at all.

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

Tim  wrote:

> In message <1j8mhry.5vetpo1wggmq4N%thewildrover@me.com>, Andy Hewitt 
>  writes
> >Emily's looking to get to Bridlington from Scarborough (15.5 miles) for
> >her work experience next year, so I looked up options.
> >
> >It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
> >
> >The train search bought up an excellent journey though. We're assuming
> >she'll be needing to get there for 9:00am-ish, and we got one that gets
> >to Brid at 8:41am - but departs Scarborough at 22:07 the previous day a
> >10hr 34min journey with 4 changes (the route is Scarborough > York >
> >Leeds > Doncaster > Hull > Bridlington).
> >
> >The shortest journey listed is 3hrs 13mins, which goes Scarborough >
> >York > Selby > Hull > Bridlington (but none of the shorter ones arrive
> >at a suitable time).
> >
> >WTF?
> >
> Shame it's this late in the year otherwise I'd bet the Scarborough-York
> steam service would be quicker.

Yup, that's likely. The standard service is only an EMU local train,
some of the big steam locos are very likely to be much faster (the
Tornado has reportedly been tested at a ton, and Sir Nigel Gresley
easily cruises at 70+).

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

Paul Corfield  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:07:06 +0000, thewildrover@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
> wrote:
[..]
> >It's either three buses, or train and two buses!
> 
> No it isn't. It's one bus and direct.
> 
>
http://www.eyms.co.uk/documents/timetables/[279]EY%20121%20TT%20WINTER%2
0web.pdf
> 
> Slower than the train I grant you but worth knowing about as a fall back
> option.

Not if you take into account door-door, it's still three parts of
journey. She'll need to go from our house in Eastfield to Bridlington
Hospital.

-- 
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>

On Nov 4, 5:23 pm, thewildro...@me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
> R C Nesbit  wrote:
>
> > Andy Hewitt spoke:
>
> > Perhaps they don't have tinternet and rely on going to the station and
> > asking a human bean?
>
> FWIW, my mum has travelled up and down a few times over the years, and
> we've always found that better deals can be got by buying at the
> stations.

The stations are cunts. They wanted the thick end of £200 to travel
peak time. No mention that if I waited 45 mins it'd be nearer £80.

Fucking thieving Preston Station twatbastards ...

Paul.

zymurgy wrote:
> On Nov 4, 5:23 pm, thewildro...@me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
>> R C Nesbit  wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Hewitt spoke:
>>
>>> Perhaps they don't have tinternet and rely on going to the station
>>> and asking a human bean?
>>
>> FWIW, my mum has travelled up and down a few times over the years,
>> and we've always found that better deals can be got by buying at the
>> stations.
>
> The stations are cunts. They wanted the thick end of £200 to travel
> peak time. No mention that if I waited 45 mins it'd be nearer £80.

This is the downside to arriving early...

On 5 Nov, 11:07, "platypus"  wrote:
> zymurgywrote:
> > On Nov 4, 5:23 pm, thewildro...@me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
> >> R C Nesbit  wrote:
>
> >>> Andy Hewitt spoke:
>
> >>> Perhaps they don't have tinternet and rely on going to the station
> >>> and asking a human bean?
>
> >> FWIW, my mum has travelled up and down a few times over the years,
> >> and we've always found that better deals can be got by buying at the
> >> stations.
>
> > The stations are cunts. They wanted the thick end of £200 to travel
> > peak time. No mention that if I waited 45 mins it'd be nearer £80.
>
> This is the downside to arriving early...

The ticket orifice was the unhelpful one. I collared some bloke in
uniform on the platform and he gave me the peak/off-peak times skinny.

I mean, I travel by train so infrequently HTF am I meant to know about
peak times and white days/blue days etc ...

Paul.

zymurgy wrote:
> On 5 Nov, 11:07, "platypus"  wrote:
>> zymurgywrote:
>>> On Nov 4, 5:23 pm, thewildro...@me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
>>>> R C Nesbit  wrote:
>>
>>>>> Andy Hewitt spoke:
>>
>>>>> Perhaps they don't have tinternet and rely on going to the station
>>>>> and asking a human bean?
>>
>>>> FWIW, my mum has travelled up and down a few times over the years,
>>>> and we've always found that better deals can be got by buying at
>>>> the stations.
>>
>>> The stations are cunts. They wanted the thick end of £200 to travel
>>> peak time. No mention that if I waited 45 mins it'd be nearer £80.
>>
>> This is the downside to arriving early...
>
> The ticket orifice was the unhelpful one. I collared some bloke in
> uniform on the platform and he gave me the peak/off-peak times skinny.
>
> I mean, I travel by train so infrequently HTF am I meant to know about
> peak times and white days/blue days etc ...

Whooosh.