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date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:36:57 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.rec.motorcycles        back       
OT : Laptops   
I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?

--
Speedgazebo
date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:36:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Speedgazebo

Re: OT : Laptops   
Speedgazebo  wrote in news:ba959ee1-7e9d-4bbb-b526-
54b992798012@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
> seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
> that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
> 

Why?

The OS will add about $2 to the end price of the machine. Just nuke the HDD 
on arrival if you have your own OS.

I can understand not wanting the proprietary bollocks the likes of Acer 
insist on infesting into a machine. A minor irritation, though.



-- 
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BMW R1150GS
date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC)   author:   wessie

Re: OT : Laptops   
Speedgazebo  writes:

> I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
> seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
> that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?

IBM X32 with DVD 'clamshell', 1.5GB RAM etc any good for you?

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date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:38:35 +0100   author:   Timo Geusch

Re: OT : Laptops   
In message 
, 
Speedgazebo  writes
>I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
>seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
>that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>
Novatech.
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date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:17:15 +0100   author:   Tim

Re: OT : Laptops   
wessie wrote:

> Speedgazebo  wrote in
> news:ba959ee1-7e9d-4bbb-b526-
> 54b992798012@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> 
> > I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
> > seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
> > that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
> > 
> 
> Why?
> 
> The OS will add about $2 to the end price of the machine. Just nuke
> the HDD on arrival if you have your own OS.
> 
> I can understand not wanting the proprietary bollocks the likes of
> Acer insist on infesting into a machine. A minor irritation, though.

LOL, we just got hold of an Acer Travelmate .. 40gig HD, with only 9gig
empty ... after doing a full recovery with all standard options!!

Removed all the shite by re-installing XP separately and only adding
hardware drivers and 'normal' apps ... now got 31 gig free ... ;)

I can't help but think, however, that the standard recovery can't have
gone correctly, despite what the pop-ups kept telling me.

-- 
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'
ebay stuff   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/paul-xxx
date: 1 Oct 2008 09:16:14 GMT   author:   Paul - xxx

Re: OT : Laptops   
"Paul - xxx"  wrote in message 
news:6kgtetF7poctU1@mid.individual.net...
> wessie wrote:
>
>> Speedgazebo  wrote in
>> news:ba959ee1-7e9d-4bbb-b526-
>> 54b992798012@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
>> > seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
>> > that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>> >
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> The OS will add about $2 to the end price of the machine. Just nuke
>> the HDD on arrival if you have your own OS.
>>
>> I can understand not wanting the proprietary bollocks the likes of
>> Acer insist on infesting into a machine. A minor irritation, though.
>
> LOL, we just got hold of an Acer Travelmate .. 40gig HD, with only 9gig
> empty ... after doing a full recovery with all standard options!!
>
> Removed all the shite by re-installing XP separately and only adding
> hardware drivers and 'normal' apps ... now got 31 gig free ... ;)
>
> I can't help but think, however, that the standard recovery can't have
> gone correctly, despite what the pop-ups kept telling me.

How does the reinstall business work? My bird has a travelmate, and it's 
pretty well munged due to her downloading all variety of shite onto it. It 
has no recovery CD - is there a hidden partition somewhere?
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:34:13 +0100   author:   Doki

Re: OT : Laptops   
Doki wrote:

> 
> "Paul - xxx"  wrote in message
> news:6kgtetF7poctU1@mid.individual.net...
> > wessie wrote:
> > 
> >>Speedgazebo  wrote in
> > > news:ba959ee1-7e9d-4bbb-b526-
> > > 54b992798012@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> > > 
> >>> I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system.
> It >>> seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome.
> Failing >>> that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Why?
> > > 
> > > The OS will add about $2 to the end price of the machine. Just
> > > nuke the HDD on arrival if you have your own OS.
> > > 
> > > I can understand not wanting the proprietary bollocks the likes of
> > > Acer insist on infesting into a machine. A minor irritation,
> > > though.
> > 
> > LOL, we just got hold of an Acer Travelmate .. 40gig HD, with only
> > 9gig empty ... after doing a full recovery with all standard
> > options!!
> > 
> > Removed all the shite by re-installing XP separately and only adding
> > hardware drivers and 'normal' apps ... now got 31 gig free ... ;)
> > 
> > I can't help but think, however, that the standard recovery can't
> > have gone correctly, despite what the pop-ups kept telling me.
> 
> How does the reinstall business work? My bird has a travelmate, and
> it's pretty well munged due to her downloading all variety of shite
> onto it. It has no recovery CD - is there a hidden partition
> somewhere?

Yes.  Doesn't show up at all unless you have a recovery cd, then shows
up as X:, though the Acers at school show up as G: (you have to look,
don't you) ... though I'd guess if I looked hard enough it'd be easy
enough to find apps to clear it ... indeed Acer have a System DVD ...
http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/utilities.html which might be
worth downloading and trying.  If you get no luck, post back or email
and we'll work something out ... ;)

-- 
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'
ebay stuff   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/paul-xxx
date: 1 Oct 2008 13:23:47 GMT   author:   Paul - xxx

Re: OT : Laptops   
On Oct 1, 7:38 am, Timo Geusch 
wrote:
> Speedgazebo  writes:
> > I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
> > seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
> > that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>
> IBM X32 with DVD 'clamshell', 1.5GB RAM etc any good for you?
>

Sorry to ask a daft question, but what is a "clamshell" ? and yes that
sounds possible how much?

--
Speedgazebo
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:39:34 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Speedgazebo

Re: OT : Laptops   
Speedgazebo  writes:

> On Oct 1, 7:38 am, Timo Geusch 
> wrote:
>> Speedgazebo  writes:
>> > I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
>> > seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
>> > that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>>
>> IBM X32 with DVD 'clamshell', 1.5GB RAM etc any good for you?
>>
>
> Sorry to ask a daft question, but what is a "clamshell" ? and yes that
> sounds possible how much?

In that case, the bottom half of the computer - the X32 is an
ultraportable that doesn't have things like a built-in DVD drive. Call
it a mini-docking station.

Around 230 of your earthly pounds, complete with VAT invoice.

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date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:48:04 +0100   author:   Timo Geusch

Re: OT : Laptops   
On Oct 1, 6:48 pm, Timo Geusch 
wrote:
> Speedgazebo  writes:
> > On Oct 1, 7:38 am, Timo Geusch 
> > wrote:
> >> Speedgazebo  writes:
> >> > I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
> >> > seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
> >> > that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>
> >> IBM X32 with DVD 'clamshell', 1.5GB RAM etc any good for you?
>
> > Sorry to ask a daft question, but what is a "clamshell" ? and yes that
> > sounds possible how much?
>
> In that case, the bottom half of the computer - the X32 is an
> ultraportable that doesn't have things like a built-in DVD drive. Call
> it a mini-docking station.
>
> Around 230 of your earthly pounds, complete with VAT invoice.
>
I 've done a bit of googling and it seems that this is a bit *too*
portable, 'cos it seems that it's only got a 12.1" screen which I
would find a bit small after my D600. I think I'll pass on it, mind
you if the new prices are anything like right it's a bargain for
someone.
Thanks anyway.

--
Speedgazebo
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:12:44 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Speedgazebo

Re: OT : Laptops   
Speedgazebo  writes:

> On Oct 1, 6:48 pm, Timo Geusch 
> wrote:
>> Speedgazebo  writes:
>> > On Oct 1, 7:38 am, Timo Geusch 
>> > wrote:
>> >> Speedgazebo  writes:
>> >> > I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
>> >> > seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
>> >> > that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>>
>> >> IBM X32 with DVD 'clamshell', 1.5GB RAM etc any good for you?
>>
>> > Sorry to ask a daft question, but what is a "clamshell" ? and yes that
>> > sounds possible how much?
>>
>> In that case, the bottom half of the computer - the X32 is an
>> ultraportable that doesn't have things like a built-in DVD drive. Call
>> it a mini-docking station.
>>
>> Around 230 of your earthly pounds, complete with VAT invoice.
>>
> I 've done a bit of googling and it seems that this is a bit *too*
> portable, 'cos it seems that it's only got a 12.1" screen which I
> would find a bit small after my D600.

It is - I tend to buy laptops with relatively small screens because I
actually lug them around so light weight and small enough to use on the
train or on a plane is important for me.

> I think I'll pass on it, mind
> you if the new prices are anything like right it's a bargain for
> someone.
> Thanks anyway.

No worries. I bought this for my company but it's surplus to
requirements now that I've joined the Church of Steve...

-- 
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"Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar
date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:19:02 +0100   author:   Timo Geusch

Re: OT : Laptops   
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo 
 typed
>I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
>seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
>that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?

NEC Versa S950 - couple of years old.

1 Gb RAM, 150GB HDD, DVD.

Currently has XP Pro on it, feel free to overwrite that.

Case is silver painted, and the lid has some marks on the paint. It all 
works.

Umm... Dunno, make an offer.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:47:17 +0100   author:   Wicked Uncle Nigel

Re: OT : Laptops   
Timo Geusch  wrote:

> It is - I tend to buy laptops with relatively small screens because I
> actually lug them around so light weight and small enough to use on the
> train or on a plane is important for me.

<AOL>

Hence the old 12" G4 iBook.


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"What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time
and hassle for no tangible benefit."
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:56:32 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: OT : Laptops   
On Oct 1, 7:47 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo
>  typed
>
> >I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
> >seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
> >that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>
> NEC Versa S950 - couple of years old.
>
> 1 Gb RAM, 150GB HDD, DVD.
>
> Currently has XP Pro on it, feel free to overwrite that.
>
> Case is silver painted, and the lid has some marks on the paint. It all
> works.
>
> Umm... Dunno, make an offer.

Interested, go on, how much?

--
Speedgazebo
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:03:58 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Speedgazebo

Re: OT : Laptops   
Doki wrote:

> How does the reinstall business work? My bird has a travelmate, and
> it's pretty well munged due to her downloading all variety of shite
> onto it. It has no recovery CD - is there a hidden partition
> somewhere?

Further to this ...

Just had a RTFM session ... as you do ... My Acer Travelmate is a 4500
series (4502LCi), the following is from the manual which says it's
suitable for a 2300/4000/4500 series machine.  If yours is different
the process might be different but this could be worth a try at least.
I just tried it as far as the password protection bit and it works ...
So, directly from the manual ...

Restore without recovery CD.
Check BIOS (Press F2 during POST) to [ENABLE] [Hard Disk Recovery] in
[Advanced] and Exit Saving Changes and let the system reboot.

1. Restart the system
2. The instruction "Press <F2> to Enter BIOS" is shown at the bottom of
the screen, during POST.
3. Press <ALT> + <F10> at the same time to start the recovery process.
4. The message "The system has password protection. Please enter
000000:" is displayed.
5. Enter six 0s and continue.
6. "Acer Self-Configuration Preload" window appears.
7. Use the arrow keys to scroll through the items (operating system
versions) and press "Enter" to select.

Anything else you need just ask.

Hope it helps ... ;)


-- 
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'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp
ebay stuff   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/paul-xxx
date: 1 Oct 2008 19:57:41 GMT   author:   Paul - xxx mobile

Re: OT : Laptops   
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo 
 typed
>On Oct 1, 7:47 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
>wrote:
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo
>>  typed
>>
>> >I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
>> >seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
>> >that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>>
>> NEC Versa S950 - couple of years old.
>>
>> 1 Gb RAM, 150GB HDD, DVD.
>>
>> Currently has XP Pro on it, feel free to overwrite that.
>>
>> Case is silver painted, and the lid has some marks on the paint. It all
>> works.
>>
>> Umm... Dunno, make an offer.
>
>Interested, go on, how much?

I honestly have no fucking clue what it's worth. Is there a laptop 
equivalent of TOG around? Any opinions?

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:25:15 +0100   author:   Wicked Uncle Nigel

Re: OT : Laptops   
On Oct 1, 9:25 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo
>  typed
>
>
>
> >On Oct 1, 7:47 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
> >wrote:
> >> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo
> >>  typed
>
> >> >I want a new laptop, but I want one without an operating system. It
> >> >seems to be impossible. suggestions for a supplier welcome. Failing
> >> >that, anyone got a SOlaptop they want to flog me?
>
> >> NEC Versa S950 - couple of years old.
>
> >> 1 Gb RAM, 150GB HDD, DVD.
>
> >> Currently has XP Pro on it, feel free to overwrite that.
>
> >> Case is silver painted, and the lid has some marks on the paint. It all
> >> works.
>
> >> Umm... Dunno, make an offer.
>
> >Interested, go on, how much?
>
> I honestly have no fucking clue what it's worth. Is there a laptop
> equivalent of TOG around? Any opinions?
>
> --
> Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"
>
> My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

£100 for a start?

--
Speedgazebo
date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:03:43 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Speedgazebo

Re: OT : Laptops   
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo 
 typed
>On Oct 1, 9:25 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
>wrote:
>>
>> I honestly have no fucking clue what it's worth. Is there a laptop
>> equivalent of TOG around? Any opinions?
>>
>
>£100 for a start?

<shrug>

It's a nice round number. Seems fair to me.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:17:36 +0100   author:   Wicked Uncle Nigel

Re: OT : Laptops   
In communiqué <z0ydJlUgOI5IJA+G@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
 cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo 
> typed
>>On Oct 1, 9:25 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> I honestly have no fucking clue what it's worth. Is there a laptop
>>> equivalent of TOG around? Any opinions?
>>>
>>
>>£100 for a start?
>
><shrug>
>
>It's a nice round number. Seems fair to me.
>

If Speedgazebo doesn't want it I will snap it up for the NHCA "bringing 
our timing results display arrangements in to the third millenium" 
project.

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date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:25:48 +0100   author:   Pete Fisher

Re: OT : Laptops   
On 2 Oct, 09:17, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo
>  typed
>
> >On Oct 1, 9:25 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
> >wrote:
>
> >> I honestly have no fucking clue what it's worth. Is there a laptop
> >> equivalent of TOG around? Any opinions?
>
> >£100 for a start?
>
> <shrug>
>
> It's a nice round number. Seems fair to me.
>
> --
OK, you are local aren't you? Can I come over and have a look at it?
If that's OK give me a ring on 621492.

--
Speedgazebo
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 05:24:15 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Speedgazebo

Re: OT : Laptops   
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo 
 typed
>On 2 Oct, 09:17, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
>wrote:
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Speedgazebo
>>  typed
>>
>> >On Oct 1, 9:25 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >> I honestly have no fucking clue what it's worth. Is there a laptop
>> >> equivalent of TOG around? Any opinions?
>>
>> >£100 for a start?
>>
>> <shrug>
>>
>> It's a nice round number. Seems fair to me.
>>
>> --
>OK, you are local aren't you? Can I come over and have a look at it?
>If that's OK give me a ring on 621492.

I'll give you bell when I get home tonight. I'm in Holwell, so pretty 
close.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:41:29 +0100   author:   Wicked Uncle Nigel

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