Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads, hardly 
any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections separated by 
straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles, wonderful scenery... 
pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on two wheels!
-- 
R.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
 squeezed out the following:

>Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads, hardly 
>any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections separated by 
>straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles, wonderful scenery... 
>pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on two wheels!

Nice indeed. Only this evening we were discussing perhaps hitting the
west coast generally some time next year - pre- or post-midges.

-- 
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

Colin Irvine  wrote in
news:ofn2e45o7ssds59plpi7dil2mf901a4d6g@4ax.com: 

> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
>  squeezed out the following:
> 
>>Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads,
>>hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections
>>separated by straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles,
>>wonderful scenery... pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on
>>two wheels! 
> 
> Nice indeed. Only this evening we were discussing perhaps hitting the
> west coast generally some time next year - pre- or post-midgets.
> 

What have you got against SeanH?

-- 
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:12:52 +0000 (UTC), wessie
 squeezed out the following:

>Colin Irvine  wrote in
>news:ofn2e45o7ssds59plpi7dil2mf901a4d6g@4ax.com: 
>
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
>>  squeezed out the following:
>> 
>>>Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads,
>>>hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections
>>>separated by straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles,
>>>wonderful scenery... pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on
>>>two wheels! 
>> 
>> Nice indeed. Only this evening we were discussing perhaps hitting the
>> west coast generally some time next year - pre- or post-midgets.
>> 
>
>What have you got against SeanH?

You made me check my post you bastard.

-- 
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

On Sep 29, 11:40 pm, "Rudy Lacchin"
 wrote:
> Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads, hardly
> any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections separated by
> straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles, wonderful scenery.> pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on two wheels!

We went to Mull this summer. Fantastic place as well. The roads are a
bit crap though. There are only two bits of non "single lane with
passing places" on the whole island [1].

I've never seen such clear sea water, you could pick the crab you
wanted to catch in 20 foot of water. Golden eagles, ospreys, otters,
red deer and more buzzards than you could shake a stick at.

--
Malc

"Malc"  wrote in message 
news:73531042-b50b-4bbe-8305-4bd6acde8745@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 29, 11:40 pm, "Rudy Lacchin"
 wrote:
> Just returned from Skye. Flip me, what a nice place! Lovely roads, hardly
> any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections separated by
> straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles, wonderful 
> scenery...
> pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on two wheels!

We went to Mull this summer. Fantastic place as well. The roads are a
bit crap though. There are only two bits of non "single lane with
passing places" on the whole island [1].

I've never seen such clear sea water, you could pick the crab you
wanted to catch in 20 foot of water. Golden eagles, ospreys, otters,
red deer and more buzzards than you could shake a stick at.



The single tracks are the best bit

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
 wrote:

>Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads, hardly 
>any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections separated by 
>straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles, wonderful scenery... 
>pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on two wheels!

Definitily better on two wheels - The Road To The Isles is pretty fun
too. And Glen Coe, Ness, I could go on...
-- 
O                                               

Life... mostly works...

Owen wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
>  wrote:
> 
> > Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely
> > roads, hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty
> > sections separated by straights long enough to nip past any slower
> > vehicles, wonderful scenery...  pity I had to take the car and
> > couldn't do it on two wheels!
> 
> Definitily better on two wheels - The Road To The Isles is pretty fun
> too. And Glen Coe, Ness, I could go on...

Stop it, I'm getting a stiffy.

-- 
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www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
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"Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfhvuF7nkp6U1
@mid.individual.net:

> Owen wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> > Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely
>> > roads, hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty
>> > sections separated by straights long enough to nip past any slower
>> > vehicles, wonderful scenery...  pity I had to take the car and
>> > couldn't do it on two wheels!
>> 
>> Definitily better on two wheels - The Road To The Isles is pretty fun
>> too. And Glen Coe, Ness, I could go on...
> 
> Stop it, I'm getting a stiffy.
> 

Think Slough, Luton, Swindon
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APPLECROSS




-- 
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

In article , wessie says...
> "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfhvuF7nkp6U1
> @mid.individual.net:
> 
> > Owen wrote:
> > 
> >> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely
> >> > roads, hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty
> >> > sections separated by straights long enough to nip past any slower
> >> > vehicles, wonderful scenery...  pity I had to take the car and
> >> > couldn't do it on two wheels!
> >> 
> >> Definitily better on two wheels - The Road To The Isles is pretty fun
> >> too. And Glen Coe, Ness, I could go on...
> > 
> > Stop it, I'm getting a stiffy.
> > 
> 
> Think Slough, Luton, Swindon

I agree 100% about the first 2 (especially Luton, which in any sane 
society would have been nuked some time ago), but I really enjoyed the 
time I spent in Swindon.

Nice people.  Horrible town centre.  Nice estates out of town.  Great 
mates.  Lovely biking roads in close proximity.

> APPLECROSS

Where's that?
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear wrote:

> In article , wessie says...
> > "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfhvuF7nkp6U1
> > @mid.individual.net:
> > 
> > > Owen wrote:
> > > 
> > >> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
> > >>  wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> > Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely
> > >> > roads, hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty
> > >> > sections separated by straights long enough to nip past any
> > slower >> > vehicles, wonderful scenery...  pity I had to take the
> > car and >> > couldn't do it on two wheels!
> > >> 
> > >> Definitily better on two wheels - The Road To The Isles is
> > pretty fun >> too. And Glen Coe, Ness, I could go on...
> > > 
> > > Stop it, I'm getting a stiffy.
> > > 
> > 
> > Think Slough, Luton, Swindon
> 
> I agree 100% about the first 2 (especially Luton, which in any sane 
> society would have been nuked some time ago), but I really enjoyed
> the time I spent in Swindon.

I always suspected you were insane.

> Lovely biking roads in close proximity.

Well I suppose France isn't /that/ far away. Swindon would be a lot
better if they'd build a motorway to the south coast.

-- 
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
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wessie wrote:

> "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfhvuF7nkp6U1
> @mid.individual.net:
> 
> > Owen wrote:
> > 
> >> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely
> >> > roads, hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty
> >> > sections separated by straights long enough to nip past any
> slower >> > vehicles, wonderful scenery...  pity I had to take the
> car and >> > couldn't do it on two wheels!
> >> 
> >> Definitily better on two wheels - The Road To The Isles is pretty
> fun >> too. And Glen Coe, Ness, I could go on...
> > 
> > Stop it, I'm getting a stiffy.
> > 
> 
> Think Slough, Luton, Swindon

Thanks, that's done the trick.

> APPLECROSS

Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.

-- 
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
Off-Road Classifieds

'02 MV Senna  '03 Tiger 955i  '96 Tiger  '79 Fantic Hiro 250

In article , Krusty says...
> Bear wrote:
> 
> > In article , wessie says...
> > > "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfhvuF7nkp6U1
> > > @mid.individual.net:
> > > 
> > > > Owen wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
> > > >>  wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> > Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely
> > > >> > roads, hardly any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty
> > > >> > sections separated by straights long enough to nip past any
> > > slower >> > vehicles, wonderful scenery...  pity I had to take the
> > > car and >> > couldn't do it on two wheels!
> > > >> 
> > > >> Definitily better on two wheels - The Road To The Isles is
> > > pretty fun >> too. And Glen Coe, Ness, I could go on...
> > > > 
> > > > Stop it, I'm getting a stiffy.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Think Slough, Luton, Swindon
> > 
> > I agree 100% about the first 2 (especially Luton, which in any sane 
> > society would have been nuked some time ago), but I really enjoyed
> > the time I spent in Swindon.
> 
> I always suspected you were insane.

*shrug*

I had a lovely time.

Sorry :(
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear wrote:

> In article , Krusty says...
> > Bear wrote:
> > 
> > > I agree 100% about the first 2 (especially Luton, which in any
> > > sane society would have been nuked some time ago), but I really
> > > enjoyed the time I spent in Swindon.
> > 
> > I always suspected you were insane.
> 
> shrug
> 
> I had a lovely time.
> 
> Sorry :(

Yebbut didn't you move to Newport then Leeds after Swindon? In which
case yes, I can see how you'd have fond memories of the place I'm glad
I no longer have to call home.

-- 
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www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
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"Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfjl4F7lqelU2
@mid.individual.net:

> wessie wrote: 
>> APPLECROSS
> 
> Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.
> 

further north than Glencoe

A rather splendid mainland peninsula with superb views across to Skye and a 
spiffing mountain pass, Bealach na Ba
http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/scot/dundee04/pict/108-17a.jpg


-- 
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

In article , Krusty says...
> Bear wrote:
> 
> > In article , Krusty says...
> > > Bear wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I agree 100% about the first 2 (especially Luton, which in any
> > > > sane society would have been nuked some time ago), but I really
> > > > enjoyed the time I spent in Swindon.
> > > 
> > > I always suspected you were insane.
> > 
> > shrug
> > 
> > I had a lovely time.
> > 
> > Sorry :(
> 
> Yebbut didn't you move to Newport then Leeds after Swindon? In which
> case yes, I can see how you'd have fond memories of the place I'm glad
> I no longer have to call home.

Newport is, if anything, even worse than Luton, and Leeds is ... well 
Leeds isn't as bad as Newport or Luton, but I wouldn't live there again, 
ever, for any reason.  

But I had a really nice time in Swindon.  Maybe I just met lots of nice 
people?  But they all seemed so pleasant and friendly, and there are 
smashing places to ride nearby, as well as eat & drink, so I was pretty 
happy there.  Again, I offer my sincere apologies.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

wessie wrote:

> "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfjl4F7lqelU2
> @mid.individual.net:
> 
> > wessie wrote: 
> >> APPLECROSS
> > 
> > Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.
> > 
> 
> further north than Glencoe
> 
> A rather splendid mainland peninsula with superb views across to Skye
> and a spiffing mountain pass, Bealach na Ba
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/scot/dundee04/pict/108-17a.jpg

That does look quite spiffing. I keep thinking I must do the Scotland
thing one day, but then I remember the south of France is closer & has
guaranteed weather, & come to my senses.

-- 
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
Off-Road Classifieds

'02 MV Senna  '03 Tiger 955i  '96 Tiger  '79 Fantic Hiro 250

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, "Rudy Lacchin"
 wrote:

>Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads, hardly 
>any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections separated by 
>straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles, wonderful scenery... 
>pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on two wheels!

I went there for the weekend that included the summer equinox in the
early 90s (before they built the bridge), and I concur - a magical
place.

Did you go to the Armadale Castle in the north?  They had a fantastic
exhibition about St Kilda when I was there, with a whole bunch of
photos from the 1930s, just before the islands were evacuated.
-- 
Champ

Two standard issue crutches
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

On 30 Sep 2008 21:38:18 GMT, "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:

>> >> APPLECROSS
>> > 
>> > Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.
>> > 
>> 
>> further north than Glencoe
>> 
>> A rather splendid mainland peninsula with superb views across to Skye
>> and a spiffing mountain pass, Bealach na Ba
>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/scot/dundee04/pict/108-17a.jpg
>
>That does look quite spiffing. I keep thinking I must do the Scotland
>thing one day, but then I remember the south of France is closer & has
>guaranteed weather, & come to my senses.

<sucks teeth>

Well, yeah, but there is something about Scotland which really is
wonderful, and can't just be reduced to an assessment of the weather.
Put it this way - even in shit weather the highlands look
breathtaking.

I must get up there on a bike again myself.
-- 
Champ

Two standard issue crutches
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:16:48 +0100, Bear 
wrote:

>> APPLECROSS
>
>Where's that?

Up and over the Pass Of The Cattle.  Long comfy beach for a tent (with
a free water tap, ffs) and a pub that never shuts.  And the view up
the loch as dawn breaks ... man, you've not lived.

-- 
Pip

In article , Pip says...
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:16:48 +0100, Bear 
> wrote:
> 
> >> APPLECROSS
> >
> >Where's that?
> 
> Up and over the Pass Of The Cattle.  Long comfy beach for a tent (with
> a free water tap, ffs) and a pub that never shuts.  And the view up
> the loch as dawn breaks ... man, you've not lived.

I rather think I have, as it happens :)

So ... in other words it'll rain down 360 days of the year and the 
midges will eat you alive?  I'll pass, thanks :)
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article , Champ says...
> On 30 Sep 2008 21:38:18 GMT, "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> >> >> APPLECROSS
> >> > 
> >> > Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> further north than Glencoe
> >> 
> >> A rather splendid mainland peninsula with superb views across to Skye
> >> and a spiffing mountain pass, Bealach na Ba
> >> http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/scot/dundee04/pict/108-17a.jpg
> >
> >That does look quite spiffing. I keep thinking I must do the Scotland
> >thing one day, but then I remember the south of France is closer & has
> >guaranteed weather, & come to my senses.
> 
> <sucks teeth>
> 
> Well, yeah, but there is something about Scotland which really is
> wonderful, and can't just be reduced to an assessment of the weather.
> Put it this way - even in shit weather the highlands look
> breathtaking.

Yeah, I'd tour Scotland again.  By car.

> I must get up there on a bike again myself.

You're clearly less nesh than I.

A worrying concept at the best of times.

I did enjoy biking there, but the rain was a total pain at times, and I 
mean a total pain.

I have to mark Krusty right on this one.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Krusty wrote:
> 
> Well I suppose France isn't /that/ far away. Swindon would be a lot
> better if they'd build a motorway to the south coast.

Stop whinging.  The A34 is only 20 miles away.

Champ wrote:

> On 30 Sep 2008 21:38:18 GMT, "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> >> >> APPLECROSS
> >> > 
> >> > Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> further north than Glencoe
> >> 
> >> A rather splendid mainland peninsula with superb views across to
> Skye >> and a spiffing mountain pass, Bealach na Ba
> >> http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/scot/dundee04/pict/108-17a.jpg
> > 
> > That does look quite spiffing. I keep thinking I must do the
> > Scotland thing one day, but then I remember the south of France is
> > closer & has guaranteed weather, & come to my senses.
> 
> <sucks teeth>
> 
> Well, yeah, but there is something about Scotland which really is
> wonderful, and can't just be reduced to an assessment of the weather.
> Put it this way - even in shit weather the highlands look
> breathtaking.

I meant specifically the Scotland /bike/ thing. I've been there a
couple of times as a car-mounted tourist, & agree it's pretty stunning.
However it also rained virtually constantly for two weeks solid the
last time, so too much of a risk for a scratching holiday (unless it's
midge bites you want to scratch).


-- 
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On 1 Oct 2008 07:26:47 GMT, "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid>
squeezed out the following:

>Champ wrote:

>> Well, yeah, but there is something about Scotland which really is
>> wonderful, and can't just be reduced to an assessment of the weather.
>> Put it this way - even in shit weather the highlands look
>> breathtaking.
>
>I meant specifically the Scotland /bike/ thing. I've been there a
>couple of times as a car-mounted tourist, & agree it's pretty stunning.
>However it also rained virtually constantly for two weeks solid the
>last time, so too much of a risk for a scratching holiday (unless it's
>midge bites you want to scratch).

Which is why we'll wait until the forecast is for a few days of
sunshine and then head straight off. We can be in Tarbet by lunchtime.

-- 
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

Colin Irvine wrote:

> On 1 Oct 2008 07:26:47 GMT, "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid>
> squeezed out the following:
> 
> > Champ wrote:
> 
> >> Well, yeah, but there is something about Scotland which really is
> >> wonderful, and can't just be reduced to an assessment of the
> weather.  >> Put it this way - even in shit weather the highlands look
> >> breathtaking.
> > 
> > I meant specifically the Scotland bike thing. I've been there a
> > couple of times as a car-mounted tourist, & agree it's pretty
> > stunning.  However it also rained virtually constantly for two
> > weeks solid the last time, so too much of a risk for a scratching
> > holiday (unless it's midge bites you want to scratch).
> 
> Which is why we'll wait until the forecast is for a few days of
> sunshine and then head straight off. We can be in Tarbet by lunchtime.

I'd be more likely to do it if I lived closer, but as it is, the rather
fantastic roads around Clermont-Ferrand or the Black Forest are about
the same distance from here. I could probably even get to the foothills
of the Pyrenees in the same time it would take me to get to Tarbet.

-- 
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In article ,
Pip   wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:16:48 +0100, Bear 
>wrote:
>>> APPLECROSS
>>
>>Where's that?
>
>Up and over the Pass Of The Cattle.

This site has a rather fun slideshow showing the road. Hairy.

http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/roadhog.cgi?show=fdf7&lang=en

-- 
CB500 (blue + flies)

Jim  wrote in
news:b8ubr5-ah7.ln1@89kh6zkKVIrqrXZuA5BD.0.0: 

> In article ,
> Pip   wrote:
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:16:48 +0100, Bear 
>>wrote:
>>>> APPLECROSS
>>>
>>>Where's that?
>>
>>Up and over the Pass Of The Cattle.
> 
> This site has a rather fun slideshow showing the road. Hairy.
> 
> http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/roadhog.cgi?show=fdf7&l
> ang=en 
> 

Lovely.

The first time I went up across the pass I travelled in the opposite 
direction. We climbed out of the village through much thicker cloud than 
shown in that slideshow. Just as I was getting a little anxious we emerged 
into bright sunshine to get lovely views at the top, over to Skye. The 
descent on the other side was largely clear too.

When we got back down to sea level at Tornapress we looked back towards the 
top of the pass. Seeing the top of the mountain sticking out through a 
layer of cloud was quite surreal. This predated digital cameras and I've 
mislaid the prints, unfortunately.



-- 
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BMW R1150GS

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:59:07 +0100, Jim  squeezed out the
following:

>In article ,
>Pip   wrote:
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:16:48 +0100, Bear 
>>wrote:
>>>> APPLECROSS
>>>
>>>Where's that?
>>
>>Up and over the Pass Of The Cattle.
>
>This site has a rather fun slideshow showing the road. Hairy.
>
>http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/roadhog.cgi?show=fdf7&lang=en

Except it didn't show the hairpins, the hairiest bit of all.

-- 
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

Colin Irvine  wrote in
news:plq6e41fu55ugd3bb35re2i2mfm4ul5kie@4ax.com: 

> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:59:07 +0100, Jim  squeezed out the
> following:
> 
>>In article ,
>>Pip   wrote:
>>>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:16:48 +0100, Bear 
>>>wrote:
>>>>> APPLECROSS
>>>>
>>>>Where's that?
>>>
>>>Up and over the Pass Of The Cattle.
>>
>>This site has a rather fun slideshow showing the road. Hairy.
>>
>>http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/roadhog.cgi?show=fdf7&l
>>ang=en 
> 
> Except it didn't show the hairpins, the hairiest bit of all.
> 

http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/img/fdf7/l/24.jpg
shows how steep the exit is, assuming the road follows the barrier

-- 
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

In article ,
Colin Irvine   wrote:
>>http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/roadhog.cgi?show=fdf7
>
>Except it didn't show the hairpins, the hairiest bit of all.

This bit?

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/684303

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On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:24:49 +0000 (UTC), wessie
 squeezed out the following:

>Colin Irvine  wrote in
>news:plq6e41fu55ugd3bb35re2i2mfm4ul5kie@4ax.com: 
>
>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:59:07 +0100, Jim  squeezed out the
>> following:
>> 
>>>In article ,
>>>Pip   wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:16:48 +0100, Bear 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> APPLECROSS
>>>>>
>>>>>Where's that?
>>>>
>>>>Up and over the Pass Of The Cattle.
>>>
>>>This site has a rather fun slideshow showing the road. Hairy.
>>>
>>>http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/roadhog.cgi?show=fdf7&l
>>>ang=en 
>> 
>> Except it didn't show the hairpins, the hairiest bit of all.
>> 
>
>http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/img/fdf7/l/24.jpg
>shows how steep the exit is, assuming the road follows the barrier

Ah. Well spotted.

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On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 13:44:59 +0100, Jim  squeezed out the
following:

>In article ,
>Colin Irvine   wrote:
>>>http://www.remote.org/frederik/roadhog/scotland/roadhog.cgi?show=fdf7
>>
>>Except it didn't show the hairpins, the hairiest bit of all.
>
>This bit?
>
>http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/684303

Yep. Actually they don't look so bad, compared to some I've come
across more recently. I must be better at hairpins than I was.

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Krusty wrote:
> wessie wrote:
> 
>> "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfjl4F7lqelU2
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> wessie wrote: 
>>>> APPLECROSS
>>> Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.
>>>
>> further north than Glencoe
>>
>> A rather splendid mainland peninsula with superb views across to Skye
>> and a spiffing mountain pass, Bealach na Ba
>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/scot/dundee04/pict/108-17a.jpg
> 
> That does look quite spiffing. I keep thinking I must do the Scotland
> thing one day, but then I remember the south of France is closer & has
> guaranteed weather, & come to my senses.
> 

ITYF that Scotland has guaranteed weather too.

"Colin Irvine"  wrote in message 
news:plq6e41fu55ugd3bb35re2i2mfm4ul5kie@4ax.com...

> Except it didn't show the hairpins, the hairiest bit of all.

Especially on an R6 with the turning circle of an oil tanker.  My road 
positioning was very carefully thought out going down those.  It only just 
made it.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0100, Rudy Lacchin wrote:

> Just returned from Skye.  Flip me, what a nice place!  Lovely roads, hardly 
> any traffic, long sweeping bends and short twisty sections separated by 
> straights long enough to nip past any slower vehicles, wonderful scenery... 
> pity I had to take the car and couldn't do it on two wheels!

The weather can be changeable

http://www.usedbikeguide.com/features/sliggig.htm

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On 1 Oct 2008 09:16:29 GMT, "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:

>Colin Irvine wrote:
>
>> On 1 Oct 2008 07:26:47 GMT, "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid>
>> squeezed out the following:
>> 
>> > Champ wrote:
>> 
>> >> Well, yeah, but there is something about Scotland which really is
>> >> wonderful, and can't just be reduced to an assessment of the
>> weather.  >> Put it this way - even in shit weather the highlands look
>> >> breathtaking.
>> > 
>> > I meant specifically the Scotland bike thing. I've been there a
>> > couple of times as a car-mounted tourist, & agree it's pretty
>> > stunning.  However it also rained virtually constantly for two
>> > weeks solid the last time, so too much of a risk for a scratching
>> > holiday (unless it's midge bites you want to scratch).
>> 
>> Which is why we'll wait until the forecast is for a few days of
>> sunshine and then head straight off. We can be in Tarbet by lunchtime.
>
>I'd be more likely to do it if I lived closer, but as it is, the rather
>fantastic roads around Clermont-Ferrand or the Black Forest are about
>the same distance from here. I could probably even get to the foothills
>of the Pyrenees in the same time it would take me to get to Tarbet.

You don't live that much further away than me and I used to finish
work on a Friday, drive through the night, go ice climbing on the
Saturday, sleep half way up Ben Nevis, go ice climbing on the Sunday
and then drive back overnight for work on Monday morning. 

Admittedly the driving was always shared between 3 or 4 of us so we'd
get a bit of sleep during the journey and we could do it in about 8
hours if we only stopped for fuel so we'd be there by 2am then we'd
usually throw a couple of tents up on the golf course at Fort William
and sleep until 6am before setting off up the hill.

Being skint and still finding ways to do what you want to is a lot
more satisfying than just hosing money at it but you don't realise it
when you're trying to sleep in a car and someone else is snoring as
only a pissed up person can snore.

On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:39:51 +0200 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Higgins
says:

>Krusty wrote:
>> wessie wrote:
>> 
>>> "Krusty" <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6kfjl4F7lqelU2
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> wessie wrote: 
>>>>> APPLECROSS
>>>> Never heard of it, but it sounds northern, so fair enough.
>>>>
>>> further north than Glencoe
>>>
>>> A rather splendid mainland peninsula with superb views across to Skye
>>> and a spiffing mountain pass, Bealach na Ba
>>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvg/scot/dundee04/pict/108-17a.jpg
>> 
>> That does look quite spiffing. I keep thinking I must do the Scotland
>> thing one day, but then I remember the south of France is closer & has
>> guaranteed weather, & come to my senses.
>> 
>
>ITYF that Scotland has guaranteed weather too.

I believe that's the problem

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