http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm

'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its 
students' union toilets were "de-gendered".

Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the 
"gents" have become "toilets with urinals".

The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from 
trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'

Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.

-- 
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My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

Wicked Uncle Nigel  wrote:

> a massive piss-take

A singularly well-chosen phrase, under the circumstances.


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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older 
Gentleman  typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel  wrote:
>
>> a massive piss-take
>
>A singularly well-chosen phrase, under the circumstances.

Ayethangyew.

-- 
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My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

In article ,
 Wicked Uncle Nigel  wrote:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm

'If you were born female, still present quite feminine, but define as a 
man you should be able to go into the men's toilets - if that's how you 
define'

And the other way around, presumably?  So I can put on a skirt and go 
and watch girls weeing ?

D.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>
> 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
> students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>
> Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
> "gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>
> The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
> from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>
> Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.

I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort of thing 
would bother her.

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus 
 typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>>
>> 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
>> students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>>
>> Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
>> "gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>>
>> The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
>> from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>>
>> Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
>
>I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort of 
>thing would bother her.

Ahah!

I'd forgotten she's been installed undercover.

TFFT! Now I know it's a piss-take.

I am obliged; and congratulate her on a fine achievement in a stunningly 
short time. She is her daddy's daughter.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:27:14 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
 squeezed out the following:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>
>'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its 
>students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>
>Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the 
>"gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>
>The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from 
>trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'

I suspect there'll be a lot more complaints after men start using the
toilets without urinals on a regular basis.

-- 
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"des"  wrote in message 
news:des-A1FF6F.23504829092008@news.free.fr...
> In article ,
> Wicked Uncle Nigel  wrote:
>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>
> 'If you were born female, still present quite feminine, but define as a
> man you should be able to go into the men's toilets - if that's how you
> define'
>
> And the other way around, presumably?  So I can put on a skirt and go
> and watch girls weeing ?

There are[1] places in Manchester where you've been able to do that for a 
some time now.

[1] "Apparently".
-- 
R.

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
> 
> 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its 
> students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
> 
> Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the 
> "gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
> 
> The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from 
> trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
> 
> Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
> 

I don't know why they just couldn't have called them Belgium.

On Sep 29, 10:27 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-
nigel.me.uk> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>
> 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
> students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>
> Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
> "gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>
> The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from
> trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>
> Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.

why do you have a problem with it?

--
d.

"Wicked Uncle Nigel"  wrote

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>
> 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its students' 
> union toilets were "de-gendered".
>
> Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the "gents" 
> have become "toilets with urinals".
>
> The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from 
> trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>
> Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.


Could be worse (possibly a ginge):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7529227.stm


I personally think that all they need to do is rename the toilets to "Cunts" 
and "Pricks". Accurate, concise and rather non-PC.


Geo

On 29 Sep, 22:50, des  wrote:

> And the other way around, presumably?  So I can put on a skirt and go
> and watch girls weeing ?

Or call it supervising and not bother with the skirt.

In article <gbt1iv$d63$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>,
 "Geo"  wrote:

> "Wicked Uncle Nigel"  wrote
> 
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
> >
> > 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its students' 
> > union toilets were "de-gendered".
> >
> > Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the "gents" 
> > have become "toilets with urinals".
> >
> > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from 
> > trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
> >
> > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
> 
> 
> Could be worse (possibly a ginge):
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7529227.stm
> 
> 
> I personally think that all they need to do is rename the toilets to "Cunts" 
> and "Pricks". Accurate, concise and rather non-PC.

Well it would certainly cater for all of UKRM....

D.

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"des"  wrote
> "Geo"  wrote:
>> "Wicked Uncle Nigel"  wrote
>>
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>> >
>> > 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its 
>> > students'
>> > union toilets were "de-gendered".
>> >
>> > Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the 
>> > "gents"
>> > have become "toilets with urinals".
>> >
>> > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from
>> > trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>> >
>> > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
>>
>>
>> Could be worse (possibly a ginge):
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7529227.stm
>>
>>
>> I personally think that all they need to do is rename the toilets to 
>> "Cunts"
>> and "Pricks". Accurate, concise and rather non-PC.
>
> Well it would certainly cater for all of UKRM....

Possibly, but:

a) some around here (including me) wouldn't know which door to choose first
b) you'd claim that you're neither and that UKRM is discriminating against 
you just because you're jewish.


Geo

"Wicked Uncle Nigel"  wrote in message 
news:QIHVWQUygU4IJAwI@rcav8r.demon.co.uk...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>
> 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its 
> students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>
> Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the 
> "gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>
> The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints 
> from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>
> Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.

Reminds me of the first bar in Leeds to adopt unisex toilets, only thing 
was they didn't have signs up. Me & a mate went to the bar one night & 
after several shandies I went for a piss, looking for the urinal I spied 
a very fancy stainless steel affair in the corner, I whips it out & 
starts pissing only for a bog to flush in a cubicle & a very fit young 
lady came & started washing her hands in the 'sink' at the side of me. 
What i had thought where urinals where fucking sinks & i was pissing on 
one. To her credit, she just said 'don't mind me' & burst out laughing.

I was rather pissed in my defence...

In article <gbt75r$5g$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>,
 "Geo"  wrote:

> "des"  wrote
> > "Geo"  wrote:
> >> "Wicked Uncle Nigel"  wrote
> >>
> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
> >> >
> >> > 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its 
> >> > students'
> >> > union toilets were "de-gendered".
> >> >
> >> > Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the 
> >> > "gents"
> >> > have become "toilets with urinals".
> >> >
> >> > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from
> >> > trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
> >> >
> >> > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
> >>
> >>
> >> Could be worse (possibly a ginge):
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7529227.stm
> >>
> >>
> >> I personally think that all they need to do is rename the toilets to 
> >> "Cunts"
> >> and "Pricks". Accurate, concise and rather non-PC.
> >
> > Well it would certainly cater for all of UKRM....
> 
> Possibly, but:
> 
> a) some around here (including me) wouldn't know which door to choose first

Oh, that's easy.  The Clique would go into the latter, and the former 
who shore up the Clique, would choose the former door. 

> b) you'd claim that you're neither and that UKRM is discriminating against 
> you just because you're jewish.

Nah, I'd just find my own lavvy.

D.
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"Geo"  wrote:


>b) you'd claim that you're neither and that UKRM is discriminating against 
>you just because you're jewish.

*nice*
-- 

Fr. Jack

Life is short and love is always over in the morning.

In article ,
 Fr Jack  wrote:

> "Geo"  wrote:
> 
> 
> >b) you'd claim that you're neither and that UKRM is discriminating against 
> >you just because you're jewish.
> 
> *nice*

Quelle surprise .... 

D.
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In article 
,
 Cane  wrote:

> On 29 Sep, 22:50, des  wrote:
> 
> > And the other way around, presumably?  So I can put on a skirt and go
> > and watch girls weeing ?
> 
> Or call it supervising and not bother with the skirt.

Little chance of that.  Paranoia among us has reached such proportions 
that today, when I thought that the door was going to close as everyone 
else was leaving, and find me alone in the class with a first year girl, 
that I almost _sprinted_ to the door, to catch up with two other pupils, 
and ask them to wait.  Then I had to sort of say, 'oh, I've forgotten 
what I was going to say ... oh well, never mind.  See you tomorrow!'

A teacher hanged himself a few weeks ago, after being arrested on the 
basis of accusations of assault from a pupil ..

http://minilien.fr/a0je73

D.
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des wrote:
>  Quelle surprise .... 

quenelle surprise.
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On 30 Sep, 16:39, dog  wrote:

> quenelle surprise.

<Memories>

Haven't eaten those for *years*. I used to like them. Haven't even
seen them on a menu since I-don't-know-when. Seafood (shrimp)
quenelles. Yum.

"Nige"  wrote in message 
news:6kelojF7jctnU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> Reminds me of the first bar in Leeds to adopt unisex toilets, only thing 
> was they didn't have signs up. Me & a mate went to the bar one night & 
> after several shandies I went for a piss, looking for the urinal I spied a 
> very fancy stainless steel affair in the corner, I whips it out & starts 
> pissing only for a bog to flush in a cubicle & a very fit young lady came 
> & started washing her hands in the 'sink' at the side of me. What i had 
> thought where urinals where fucking sinks & i was pissing on one. To her 
> credit, she just said 'don't mind me' & burst out laughing.
>
> I was rather pissed in my defence...

What - went to court, did it?
-- 
R.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:27:14 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
 wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>
>'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its 
>students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>
>Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the 
>"gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>
>The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from 
>trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'

well, women have been using the gents loos in clubs and pubs for years
without any issues.
-- 
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Two standard issue crutches
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ 
 typed
>On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:27:14 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>>
>>'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
>>students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>>
>>Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
>>"gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>>
>>The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from
>>trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>
>well, women have been using the gents loos in clubs and pubs for years
>without any issues.

A few years ago there was a case at Jack Murphy Stadium[1] in San Diego 
where a woman got fed up with the huge queue at the ladies' toilet and 
went into the gents'. A bloke who was mid-widdle at the time tried to 
sue the stadium for not preventing this, claiming emotional thingummy 
because the lady had seen his todger.

In a rare outbreak of common-sense, the case got chucked out.


[1] It was that long ago...
-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
>  typed
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:27:14 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
> > > 
> > > 'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
> > > students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
> > > 
> > > Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
> > > "gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
> > > 
> > > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of
> > > complaints from trans students who are uncomfortable using the
> > > men's toilets.'
> > 
> > well, women have been using the gents loos in clubs and pubs for
> > years without any issues.
> 
> A few years ago there was a case at Jack Murphy Stadium[1] in San
> Diego where a woman got fed up with the huge queue at the ladies'
> toilet and went into the gents'. A bloke who was mid-widdle at the
> time tried to sue the stadium for not preventing this, claiming
> emotional thingummy because the lady had seen his todger.
> 
> In a rare outbreak of common-sense, the case got chucked out.

I was in a club yonks ago & a tranny went into the ladies' loos. In
typical club stylee, there was a bunch of blokes waiting outside for
their girlies to come out. When the tranny came out, they kicked the
shit out of him.


-- 
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In communiqué , Champ 
 cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:27:14 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>>
>>'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
>>students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>>
>>Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
>>"gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>>
>>The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from
>>trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>
>well, women have been using the gents loos in clubs and pubs for years
>without any issues.

Happens all the time at French autoroute loos. When either gender 
toilets are being cleaned, people just use the other facility without 
turning a hair. The ladies also often have a long queue at busy times, 
in which case many mademoiselles become serenely pragmatic.
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pete Fisher 
 typed
>In communiqué , Champ 
> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>>On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:27:14 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>> wrote:
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
>>>
>>>'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
>>>students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
>>>
>>>Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
>>>"gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
>>>
>>>The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from
>>>trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>>
>>well, women have been using the gents loos in clubs and pubs for years
>>without any issues.
>
>Happens all the time at French autoroute loos. When either gender 
>toilets are being cleaned, people just use the other facility without 
>turning a hair. The ladies also often have a long queue at busy times, 
>in which case many mademoiselles become serenely pragmatic.

Heh. I remember a school trip thirty years ago to Belgium where we were 
all *amazed* that there were women attendants in the public bogs. I 
often think of that now when I see the coy "Male and female staff may 
operate in this facility" signs that seem to have popped up of late in 
public shitters.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

> > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
> > from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>
> > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
>
> I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort of thing
> would bother her.

I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure that's
the right phrase.

In article <106a7362-6d65-4289-afbe-
a9c8272fd19f@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Christofire says...
> On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
> > Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> 
> > > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
> > > from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
> >
> > > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
> >
> > I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort of thing
> > would bother her.
> 
> I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure that's
> the right phrase.

Hey wow, you're alive.  Cool :)

How's you?
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Christofire 
 typed
>On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
>> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
>> > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
>> > from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>>
>> > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
>>
>> I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort of thing
>> would bother her.
>
>I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure that's
>the right phrase.

Ah, you're alive then? How's stuff?

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear 
 typed
>In article <106a7362-6d65-4289-afbe-
>a9c8272fd19f@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Christofire says...
>> On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
>> > Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>>
>> > > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
>> > > from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
>> >
>> > > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
>> >
>> > I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort 
>> >of thing
>> > would bother her.
>>
>> I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure that's
>> the right phrase.
>
>Hey wow, you're alive.  Cool :)
>
>How's you?

OK, scared now.


-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

In article <$0$eZafS9q4IJA3f@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
says...
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear 
>  typed
> >In article <106a7362-6d65-4289-afbe-
> >a9c8272fd19f@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Christofire says...
> >> On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
> >> > Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> >>
> >> > > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
> >> > > from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.> >> > > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
> >> >
> >> > I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort 
> >> >of thing
> >> > would bother her.
> >>
> >> I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure that's
> >> the right phrase.
> >
> >Hey wow, you're alive.  Cool :)
> >
> >How's you?
> 
> OK, scared now.

*You're* scared?

FFS.  Imagine how I feel.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear wrote:

> In article <$0$eZafS9q4IJA3f@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
> says...
> > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear 
> >  typed
> > > In article <106a7362-6d65-4289-afbe-
> > > a9c8272fd19f@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Christofire says...
> > >> On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
> > >> > Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> > > > 
> > >> > > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of
> > complaints >> > > from trans students who are uncomfortable using
> > the men's toilets.' >> >
> > >> > > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive
> > piss-take. Please.  >> >
> > >> > I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this
> > sort >> >of thing
> > >> > would bother her.
> > > > 
> > >> I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure
> > that's >> the right phrase.
> > > 
> > > Hey wow, you're alive.  Cool :)
> > > 
> > > How's you?
> > 
> > OK, scared now.
> 
> You're scared?
> 
> FFS.  Imagine how I feel.

Both tall, both larger buid, both bearded, both have a penchant for big
cheap motahs, both work in IT based fields. Has anyone ever seen WUN
and Bear in the same room?

-- 
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and a shit load more 2-wheeled junk in the garage
I believe in free speech, but I still have to pay my phone bill

In article , Lozzo says...
> Bear wrote:
> 
> > In article <$0$eZafS9q4IJA3f@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
> > says...
> > > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear 
> > >  typed
> > > > In article <106a7362-6d65-4289-afbe-
> > > > a9c8272fd19f@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Christofire says...
> > > >> On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
> > > >> > Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > >> > > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of
> > > complaints >> > > from trans students who are uncomfortable using
> > > the men's toilets.' >> >
> > > >> > > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive
> > > piss-take. Please.  >> >
> > > >> > I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this
> > > sort >> >of thing
> > > >> > would bother her.
> > > > > 
> > > >> I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure
> > > that's >> the right phrase.
> > > > 
> > > > Hey wow, you're alive.  Cool :)
> > > > 
> > > > How's you?
> > > 
> > > OK, scared now.
> > 
> > You're scared?
> > 
> > FFS.  Imagine how I feel.
> 
> Both tall, both larger buid, both bearded, both have a penchant for big
> cheap motahs, both work in IT based fields. Has anyone ever seen WUN
> and Bear in the same room?

Yeah.  Me.

<has Fight Club flashback>

Oh ... *fuck*
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

"Lozzo"  wrote in news:6kfpmpF7nk26U1
@mid.individual.net:

> Bear wrote:
> 
>> In article <$0$eZafS9q4IJA3f@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
>> You're scared?
>> 
>> FFS.  Imagine how I feel.
> 
> Both tall, both larger buid, both bearded, both have a penchant for big
> cheap motahs, both work in IT based fields. Has anyone ever seen WUN
> and Bear in the same room?
> 

http://unclebear.com/

-- 
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

Pete Fisher  wrote:

> In communiqué , Champ 
>  cast forth these pearls of wisdom
> >On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:27:14 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> > wrote:
> >
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7643175.stm
> >>
> >>'A row has broken out at the University of Manchester after its
> >>students' union toilets were "de-gendered".
> >>
> >>Temporary signs have made the "ladies" simply "toilets", while the
> >>"gents" have become "toilets with urinals".
> >>
> >>The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints from
> >>trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets.'
> >
> >well, women have been using the gents loos in clubs and pubs for years
> >without any issues.
> 
> Happens all the time at French autoroute loos. When either gender 
> toilets are being cleaned, people just use the other facility without
> turning a hair. The ladies also often have a long queue at busy times,
> in which case many mademoiselles become serenely pragmatic.

And there always seems to be some little old lady washing the floor of
the gents anyway.



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In article <jj2XW+D8xq4IFwdX@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk>,
 Pete Fisher  wrote:

> many mademoiselles become serenely pragmatic.

'demoiselles'.

D.
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Krusty wrote:
> I was in a club yonks ago & a tranny went into the ladies' loos. In
> typical club stylee, there was a bunch of blokes waiting outside for
> their girlies to come out. When the tranny came out, they kicked the
> shit out of him.

One notable club I used to visit occasionally had three sets of bogs. 
One for the blokes, one for the ladies, and one for the inbetweeners. 
The system seemed to work fine.

I'm reminded of tales of the backstage bog at the original Comedy 
Store. It didn't have one, so they just pissed in the sink. We've all 
done it, I'm sure.

-- 
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

In communiqué , des 
 cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>In article <jj2XW+D8xq4IFwdX@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk>,
> Pete Fisher  wrote:
>
>> many mademoiselles become serenely pragmatic.
>
>'demoiselles'.

Particularly in June.

http://flyfishingspirit.com/spip.php?article103&lang=fr
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In article ,
 Pete Fisher  wrote:

> In communiqué , des 
>  cast forth these pearls of wisdom
> >In article <jj2XW+D8xq4IFwdX@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk>,
> > Pete Fisher  wrote:
> >
> >> many mademoiselles become serenely pragmatic.
> >
> >'demoiselles'.
> 
> Particularly in June.
> 
> http://flyfishingspirit.com/spip.php?article103&lang=fr

All year round here ...

http://minilien.fr/a0je9o

D.
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie 
 typed
>"Lozzo"  wrote in news:6kfpmpF7nk26U1
>@mid.individual.net:
>
>> Bear wrote:
>>
>>> In article <$0$eZafS9q4IJA3f@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>>> You're scared?
>>>
>>> FFS.  Imagine how I feel.
>>
>> Both tall, both larger buid, both bearded, both have a penchant for big
>> cheap motahs, both work in IT based fields. Has anyone ever seen WUN
>> and Bear in the same room?
>>
>
>http://unclebear.com/

I am *so* not clicking that link.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

Wicked Uncle Nigel  wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie 
>  typed
> >"Lozzo"  wrote in news:6kfpmpF7nk26U1
> >@mid.individual.net:
> >
> >> cheap motahs, both work in IT based fields. Has anyone ever seen WUN
> >> and Bear in the same room?
> >>
> >
> >http://unclebear.com/
> 
> I am *so* not clicking that link.
> 

And the pig got up and slowly walked away.

-- 
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68 Bantam D14S

On 1 Oct, 08:04, ogden  wrote:

>
> I'm reminded of tales of the backstage bog at the original Comedy
> Store. It didn't have one, so they just pissed in the sink. We've all
> done it, I'm sure.
>
And in showers...

I'm reminded of the infamous Superbike Rock Night at the TT: an event
which achieved an enviable reputation for debauchery, to the extent
that many venues simply refused to host it.

Anyway, they year I went it was *unreal*. Superb. By about 10pm the
bogs had just given up, and you couldn't get into them anyway, and so
everyone went out onto the outside fire escape and pissed off the
gantry into space.

This bloke came out to join us, and saw the entire platform jam-packed
as well, so he made what turned out to be a *serious* error. He went
down one flight of the fire escape steps to the platform below and
started peeing.

He had this bald head, I remember, and of course, as one, every pisser
on the platform above him marked it as Target For Tonight. I have this
indelible memory of half a dozen well-aimed streams of urine bouncing
off his bonce at the same time.

TOG@Toil wrote:
> 
> I'm reminded of the infamous Superbike Rock Night at the TT: an event
> which achieved an enviable reputation for debauchery, to the extent
> that many venues simply refused to host it.
> 
> Anyway, they year I went it was *unreal*. Superb. By about 10pm the
> bogs had just given up, and you couldn't get into them anyway, and so
> everyone went out onto the outside fire escape and pissed off the
> gantry into space.
> 
> This bloke came out to join us, and saw the entire platform jam-packed
> as well, so he made what turned out to be a *serious* error. He went
> down one flight of the fire escape steps to the platform below and
> started peeing.
> 
> He had this bald head, I remember, and of course, as one, every pisser
> on the platform above him marked it as Target For Tonight. I have this
> indelible memory of half a dozen well-aimed streams of urine bouncing
> off his bonce at the same time.

Golden bukakke...

On 1 Oct, 09:34, Wicked Uncle Nigel 
wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie
>  typed
>
>
>
> >"Lozzo"  wrote in news:6kfpmpF7nk26U1
> >@mid.individual.net:
>
> >> Bear wrote:
>
> >>> In article <$0$eZafS9q4IJ...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> >>> You're scared?
>
> >>> FFS.  Imagine how I feel.
>
> >> Both tall, both larger buid, both bearded, both have a penchant for big
> >> cheap motahs, both work in IT based fields. Has anyone ever seen WUN
> >> and Bear in the same room?
>
> >http://unclebear.com/
>
> I am *so* not clicking that link.
>
I hesitated, too, but it is indeed WS.

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 04:08:03 -0700 (PDT), "TOG@Toil"
 wrote:

>He had this bald head, I remember, and of course, as one, every pisser
>on the platform above him marked it as Target For Tonight. I have this
>indelible memory of half a dozen well-aimed streams of urine bouncing
>off his bonce at the same time.

Some people would pay good money for that.
-- 
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ogden  wrote in news:MPG.234d316ec6c55894989736
@reader.motzarella.org:

> Krusty wrote:
>> I was in a club yonks ago & a tranny went into the ladies' loos. In
>> typical club stylee, there was a bunch of blokes waiting outside for
>> their girlies to come out. When the tranny came out, they kicked the
>> shit out of him.
> 
> One notable club I used to visit occasionally had three sets of bogs. 
> One for the blokes, one for the ladies, and one for the inbetweeners. 
> The system seemed to work fine.
> 
> I'm reminded of tales of the backstage bog at the original Comedy 
> Store. It didn't have one, so they just pissed in the sink. We've all 
> done it, I'm sure.
> 

do Private Eye still call it a Guinness, after the use of a kitchen sink by 
the daughter/niece of a director?

-- 
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

In article <a2e3ff43-d386-47ce-893c-bd3d499fb8e0
@u26g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, Christofire says...
> On 30 Sep, 23:57, Bear  wrote:
> > In article <106a7362-6d65-4289-afbe-
> > a9c8272fd...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,Christofiresays...
> >
> > > On 29 Sep, 23:28, "platypus"  wrote:
> > > > Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> >
> > > > > The changes are in response to an unspecified number of complaints
> > > > > from trans students who are uncomfortable using the men's toilets> > > > > Somebody please reassure me that this is a massive piss-take. Please.
> >
> > > > I've forwarded it to our on-site correspondent.  Not that this sort of thing
> > > > would bother her.
> >
> > > I was going to offer to have a look myself, but I'm not sure that's
> > > the right phrase.
> >
> > Hey wow, you're alive.  Cool :)
> >
> > How's you?
> 
> See reply to Nigel, but "not quite ok" seems to suit. What about you?

Simply spiffy on most fronts, it has to be said.

Just back from Jayne & Andria's wedding/civil ceremony, which was 
excellent.

Wedding reception was held on the "wedding express", a train on the 
Severn Valley Railway line:

http://www.svr.co.uk/

Absolutely smashing time was had by all; I've never been on a full-sized 
steam train before (narrow gauge a couple of times, but never full-
scale), and it was a total event.  Loved it.  Pleasant grub, free-
flowing booze (although I had to take it a bit steady as I had to drive 
later in the day), and a really lovely, party atmosphere.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 00:23:28 +0100, Bear 
squeezed out the following:

>Just back from Jayne & Andria's wedding/civil ceremony, which was 
>excellent.

Well I wish I'd known - I think they were the first ukrmers I actually
met. Up here that is (I hasten to say), not in relation to their later
occupation down south.

Anyway, nice to hear that news.

-- 
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

In article , Colin Irvine 
says...
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 00:23:28 +0100, Bear 
> squeezed out the following:
> 
> >Just back from Jayne & Andria's wedding/civil ceremony, which was 
> >excellent.
> 
> Well I wish I'd known - I think they were the first ukrmers I actually
> met. Up here that is (I hasten to say), not in relation to their later
> occupation down south.

They're moved from the extreme SW location they had before anyway.  
They're based on the English/Welsh border these days, the poor sods.

They're bearing up well under the strain, mind :)

The weirdest thing is, I've known them about 10 years now, and neither 
of them appears to have aged a single day.  It's just not right.

> Anyway, nice to hear that news.

Sorry Colin - I honestly thought about saying something beforehand, but 
thought it might be presumptuous of me to do so.  It's one of those 
damned if you do, damned if you don't moments, IYSWIM.

I'll shortly have their email address (it was all a bit too busy to ask 
today), so if you'd like to send your best wishes just email me and I'll 
pass it on to you - they're not going on honeymoon for a few months, in 
typically unconventional J&A style.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 01:05:41 +0100, Bear 
squeezed out the following:

>In article , Colin Irvine 
>says...

>> Anyway, nice to hear that news.
>
>Sorry Colin - I honestly thought about saying something beforehand, but 
>thought it might be presumptuous of me to do so.  It's one of those 
>damned if you do, damned if you don't moments, IYSWIM.

Quite - no probs at all.

>I'll shortly have their email address (it was all a bit too busy to ask 
>today), so if you'd like to send your best wishes just email me and I'll 
>pass it on to you 

Yes please - and thanks.

-- 
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

In article , Colin Irvine 
says...
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 01:05:41 +0100, Bear 
> squeezed out the following:
> 
> >In article , Colin Irvine 
> >says...
> 
> >> Anyway, nice to hear that news.
> >
> >Sorry Colin - I honestly thought about saying something beforehand, but 
> >thought it might be presumptuous of me to do so.  It's one of those 
> >damned if you do, damned if you don't moments, IYSWIM.
> 
> Quite - no probs at all.

Ta.
 
> >I'll shortly have their email address (it was all a bit too busy to ask 
> >today), so if you'd like to send your best wishes just email me and I'll 
> >pass it on to you 
> 
> Yes please - and thanks.

Email away then, with no spam traps please :)
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear  wrote:

> Just back from Jayne & Andria's wedding/civil ceremony, which was 
> excellent.
> 
> Wedding reception was held on the "wedding express", a train on the 
> Severn Valley Railway line:
> 
> http://www.svr.co.uk/
> 
> Absolutely smashing time was had by all; I've never been on a full-sized
> steam train before (narrow gauge a couple of times, but never full-
> scale), and it was a total event.  Loved it.  Pleasant grub, free-
> flowing booze (although I had to take it a bit steady as I had to drive
> later in the day), and a really lovely, party atmosphere.

Blimey - haven't seen them for years. Are they still in the same gaff in
Exeter? Pass on my best.


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"What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time
and hassle for no tangible benefit."

Bear  wrote:

> 
> They're moved from the extreme SW location they had before anyway.  
> They're based on the English/Welsh border these days, the poor sods.

Ah, that answers my question.


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"What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time
and hassle for no tangible benefit."

Bear wrote:
> They're based on the English/Welsh border these days, the poor sods.
>
> They're bearing up well under the strain, mind :)


Oi, fuggoff, it's nice round here, 'specially if one is the correct side of 
the border. It's even better when the tourists go home.

-- 
I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as
members. Groucho Marx

Bear wrote:
>  The weirdest thing is, I've known them about 10 years now, and neither 
>  of them appears to have aged a single day.  It's just not right.

clearly witches.
-- 
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In article <48e9fad7$0$27340$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, dog says...
> Bear wrote:
> >  The weirdest thing is, I've known them about 10 years now, and neither 
> >  of them appears to have aged a single day.  It's just not right.
> 
> clearly witches.

heh.  You may well be right.

Having the reception on a train was an inspired idea - no boring 
speeches, nice scenery to look at, frequent stops to get out and look 
around the immaculately tended [1] smaller stations, beautiful food, 
comfy seats, gorgeous engineering and a lovely warm carriage [2] - if 
that's how railway travel used to be I think we've lost out, big time.

Once I've finished faffing about with these pics I'll bung some of the 
steam train ones on my Flickr site.

[1] my grandfather worked the railways all his life, and used to say how 
many smaller, branch-line stations were kept to an amazingly high 
standard, through the pride of their staff ... I can well believe it
[2] I didn't realise there was a kind of steam line that ran the entire 
length of the train, for use in heating - it was a somewhat chilly 
afternoon, and yet the train had this gorgeous, warm, steamy feeling and 
a gorgeous smell, sort of like my gran's airing cupboard back when I was 
a boy and our house and water were heated by gas burners, so the airing 
cupboard always smelled of steam
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article ,
Bear   wrote:
>[2] I didn't realise there was a kind of steam line that ran the entire 
>length of the train, for use in heating

Yes - of course this made much more sense back when there was no
electricity on board the steam locomotive. Later on when diesel power
was introduced it apparently caused some compatibility interestingness -
some diesels had to have a boiler with a water supply and ended up with
scoops which could pick up from water troughs.

-- 
CB500 (blue + flies)

Bear wrote:

Wotcha.

>nice scenery to look at, frequent stops to get out and look
> around the immaculately tended  smaller stations, beautiful food,
> comfy seats, gorgeous engineering and a lovely warm carriage  - if
> that's how railway travel used to be I think we've lost out, big time.


Now you can see why we hold our rally at a pub on the Severn Valley Railway.
Most folks walk to the station, grab a train,  then spend the day wandering 
around the pubs of Bridgnorth, then back on a steamy thing to the rally 
site.
It makes for a bike rally with a bit of a difference.
http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/steamychuffer.htm


We've been using the place for a fair few years now.
http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/rallypages.htm
Look for "Unplugged" rally.

^..^ Lone Wolf
http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/

In message <gcde19$1pmn$1@energise.enta.net>, ^..^ Lone Wolf 
 writes
>Bear wrote:
>
>Wotcha.
>
>>nice scenery to look at, frequent stops to get out and look
>> around the immaculately tended  smaller stations, beautiful food,
>> comfy seats, gorgeous engineering and a lovely warm carriage  - if
>> that's how railway travel used to be I think we've lost out, big time.
>
>
>Now you can see why we hold our rally at a pub on the Severn Valley Railway.
>Most folks walk to the station, grab a train,  then spend the day wandering
>around the pubs of Bridgnorth, then back on a steamy thing to the rally
>site.
>It makes for a bike rally with a bit of a difference.
>http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/steamychuffer.htm
>
>
>We've been using the place for a fair few years now.
>http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/rallypages.htm
>Look for "Unplugged" rally.


Heh, we (the AJS/Matchless OC) ran the "Severnside" rally at Hampton 
Loade many, many years ago. Also several camping weekends. That was on 
the SVR side of the river at the Unicorn, oris it the Lion?  Anyway, the 
one that in those days had a mynah bird in a cage in the bar that's most 
common phrase was "wot's yer name?"

[1] Which naturally featured a seven sided 50p style rally badge.



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Pete Fisher wrote:

Wotcha.

> Heh, we (the AJS/Matchless OC) ran the "Severnside" rally at Hampton
> Loade many, many years ago. Also several camping weekends. That was on
> the SVR side of the river at the Unicorn, oris it the Lion?

The Unicorn.  The Red Lion was the pub over the river, which is now the 
River and Railway, or some such concoction of themes.

Hmm - it was a few years ago.  1978 is the first one I recall doing.
What I can't remember was which bike I used.  It was either my A10 Super 
Rocket, or my Bantam sidecar outfit - which won the "sidecar obstacle race" 
at the second Panther owners national rally, held a few weeks earlier,  just 
down the river at the Ship Inn, Highley.

> Anyway,
> the one that in those days had a mynah bird in a cage in the bar
> that's most common phrase was "wot's yer name?"

I remember the bird, and the gaffer's Alsatian dog, but I can't for the life 
of me remember the gaffer's name.  I  think he may have been Polish ?  or 
similar.


> [1] Which naturally featured a seven sided 50p style rally badge.

Which is living happily in my "box o' badges"

http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/photographs/rally-badges/individual%20badges%20as%20.GIF/severn-side-1978.gif

http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/photographs/rally-badges/individual%20badges%20as%20.GIF/panther-owners-1978.gif


Here's my virtual cutoff - with all the ibadges ;-}
http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/rally_badges.htm


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 cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>Pete Fisher wrote:
>
>Wotcha.
>
>> Heh, we (the AJS/Matchless OC) ran the "Severnside" rally at Hampton
>> Loade many, many years ago. Also several camping weekends. That was on
>> the SVR side of the river at the Unicorn, oris it the Lion?
>
>The Unicorn.  The Red Lion was the pub over the river, which is now the
>River and Railway, or some such concoction of themes.
>

Do they still bar bikes?

>Hmm - it was a few years ago.  1978 is the first one I recall doing.
>What I can't remember was which bike I used.  It was either my A10 Super
>Rocket, or my Bantam sidecar outfit - which won the "sidecar obstacle race"
>at the second Panther owners national rally, held a few weeks earlier,  just
>down the river at the Ship Inn, Highley.
>

I was at the first one, but I can't remember the year. I do remember it 
featured a 'throwing the crank' competition.

>> Anyway,
>> the one that in those days had a mynah bird in a cage in the bar
>> that's most common phrase was "wot's yer name?"
>
>I remember the bird, and the gaffer's Alsatian dog, but I can't for the life
>of me remember the gaffer's name.  I  think he may have been Polish ?  or
>similar.
>

I'd forgotten the dog and never knew the gaffer's name. Proper old 
fashioned pub it was in those days.
>
>> [1] Which naturally featured a seven sided 50p style rally badge.
>
>Which is living happily in my "box o' badges"
>

Somewhere I have some, though sadly not all of mine, including a set of 
'Jampot Rally' ones and a couple of late 60's FoR items.

No 'sidecar safari' ones in your list then? I went just the once, for 
the day (to Ullswater IIRC) on my 31CSR, before I got the chair, but 
with a pillion - another pair of head gaskets bit the dust on the M6 
somewhere between Stoke and home.


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Pete Fisher wrote:

Wotcha.

>> The Unicorn.  The Red Lion was the pub over the river, which is now
>> the River and Railway, or some such concoction of themes.
>>
>
> Do they still bar bikes?

Not as far as I know, but seeing as they were never bike friendly in the 
past, I never bother with going there.
The ( aptly named ) Boycott Arms, on the Bridgnorth / Wolverhampton road 
still has the "No Bikes" signs - and has had for at least twenty five years 
or more.  You still get the occasional company director out for a ride on 
his executive toy who is refused service and promptly generates an article 
in the local paper.  The pub gaffer says "I've never served motorcyclists, 
and I never will".  Even black bikers have tried playing the race card to no 
avail - the gaffer just digs out all the old newspaper cuttings as proof 
that it's the bikers he objects to, regardless of colour.  Luckily such pubs 
are few and far these days.  Back then, W'ton and Dudley breweries, who own 
the Banks's and Hanson's pubs, used to send a "Motorcyclists by appointment 
only" sign to all of their pubs - including the biker friendly ones.

>
>> Hmm - it was a few years ago.  1978 is the first one I recall doing.
>> What I can't remember was which bike I used.  It was either my A10
>> Super Rocket, or my Bantam sidecar outfit - which won the "sidecar
>> obstacle race" at the second Panther owners national rally, held a
>> few weeks earlier,  just down the river at the Ship Inn, Highley.
>>
>
> I was at the first one, but I can't remember the year. I do remember
> it featured a 'throwing the crank' competition.

The first one would be 1977.
The crank throwing would have been won by "Big"  Brian Harvey.  A veritable 
giant of a fellow, who also rode an old scooter, as well as his Panther. 
This magnificent machine was referred to as the "Flanbretta" - which may 
have had something to do with the Phantom Flan Flinger, of TISWAS fame.


> No 'sidecar safari' ones in your list then? I went just the once, for
> the day (to Ullswater IIRC) on my 31CSR, before I got the chair, but
> with a pillion - another pair of head gaskets bit the dust on the M6
> somewhere between Stoke and home.

'Fraid not.  The only sidecar orientated events I ever did were the odd 
Jumbo run - and I only did a couple of those seeing as I can't stand kids 
:-)


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