Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589

-- 
Pip: B12

Pip wrote:
> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589

Bullet proof cornflour ?


-- 
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'89 K100RS
'53 JCW MCS

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:57:08 +0100, "Brownz @ Work"
 wrote:

>Pip wrote:
>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>
>Bullet proof cornflour ?

Bugger.  That cornflour thing was prety good, mind.

This is the one I wanted:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1452197391/bclid1453516501/bctid1753815421

-- 
Pip: B12

Pip wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:57:08 +0100, "Brownz @ Work" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Pip wrote:
>>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>> 
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>>> 
>> Bullet proof cornflour ?
> 
> Bugger.  That cornflour thing was prety good, mind.
> 
> This is the one I wanted:
> 
> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1452197391/bclid1453516501/bctid1753815421
> 
> 

That's silly. :)

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:57:08 +0100, "Brownz @ Work"
 wrote:

>Pip wrote:
>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>
>Bullet proof cornflour ?

cf walking on custard
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:08:11 +0100, Pip
 wrote:

>This is the one I wanted:
>
>http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1452197391/bclid1453516501/bctid1753815421

Y'know, I really quite like that.
-- 
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Two standard issue crutches
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On Sep 2, 9:22 am, Champ  wrote:

> >>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bc> >Bullet proof cornflour ?
>
> cf walking on custard

Ahh, the old 'non-newtonian' liquid. A good argument for custard
filled speedbumps that is.


--
Dnc

DoetNietComputeren wrote:
> On Sep 2, 9:22 am, Champ  wrote:
>
>>>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bc...
>>
>>> Bullet proof cornflour ?
>>
>> cf walking on custard
>
> Ahh, the old 'non-newtonian' liquid. A good argument for custard
> filled speedbumps that is.

Thixotropic innit.

-- 
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'04 Ducati ST3, '08 DL650GT, '95 LS650, OMF#24

TMack wrote:
> Thixotropic innit.

No, cornflour is dilatant.  Ketchup is thixotropic.  With a dilatant fluid, 
viscosity increases when you apply greater force to it (the opposite is 
pseudoplastic, where viscosity decreases when you apply greater force). 
With a thixotropic fluid, when you apply a constant force the viscosity will 
decrease over time.

I knew those 4 years I spent studying chemical engineering weren't 
completely wasted.

-- 
...Andy

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:23 +0100, Pip 
 wrote in :
> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
 
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589

	Well, when you get the right link...  (it's up on YouTube too).
It's a very terse but fairly complete description of what we're trying to
find.  Unfortunately Kate MacAlpine is listed as belonging to the Atlas
collaboration, so that means we don't talk...

	First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
collisions of the beams.

-- 
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Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip 
 typed
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:57:08 +0100, "Brownz @ Work"
> wrote:
>
>>Pip wrote:
>>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>>
>>> 
>>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcp
>>>id=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>>
>>Bullet proof cornflour ?
>
>Bugger.  That cornflour thing was prety good, mind.
>
>This is the one I wanted:
>
>http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1452197391/bclid1453516501
>/bctid1753815421

<VBG>

I loved that.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Dr Ivan D. Reid 
 typed
>On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:23 +0100, Pip 
> wrote in :
>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>
>> 
>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpi
>>d=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>
>       Well, when you get the right link...  (it's up on YouTube too).
>It's a very terse but fairly complete description of what we're trying to
>find.  Unfortunately Kate MacAlpine is listed as belonging to the Atlas
>collaboration, so that means we don't talk...
>
>       First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
>have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
>two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
>left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
>collisions of the beams.

I envy you.

Mind, I do have a mental image of a bunch of white-coats going:

"Shit! Left a bit... Shit! Up! Shit! Left! Shit! Down! NOT THAT MUCH! 
Shit! Up a bit! SHIT! We're gonna be here all night...."

It's probably *much* more scientific that that...

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:45:29 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
 wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Dr Ivan D. Reid 
> typed

>>       First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
>>have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
>>two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
>>left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
>>collisions of the beams.
>
>I envy you.

Me too, innasort of scared what they're going to end up doing sort of
way ...
>
>Mind, I do have a mental image of a bunch of white-coats going:
>
>"Shit! Left a bit... Shit! Up! Shit! Left! Shit! Down! NOT THAT MUCH! 
>Shit! Up a bit! SHIT! We're gonna be here all night...."
>
>It's probably *much* more scientific that that...
	
	... you've played Half Life, right?

-- 
Pip: B12

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:23 +0100, Pip 
>  wrote in :
>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>  
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
> 
> 	Well, when you get the right link...  (it's up on YouTube too).
> It's a very terse but fairly complete description of what we're trying to
> find.  Unfortunately Kate MacAlpine is listed as belonging to the Atlas
> collaboration, so that means we don't talk...
> 
> 	First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
> have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
> two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
> left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
> collisions of the beams.

<worried> You mean there's no beam collisions on the 10th?  I've been 
telling everybody not to worry about a launch delay because there won't 
be an 11th[1], now I have to tell them this could go on for days, 
possibly into commissioning.  It might even get to my credit card due 
date :(


9 Billions Names Of God again....

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:23 +0100, Pip
>  wrote in
> :
>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>
> Well, when you get the right link...  (it's up on YouTube too).
> It's a very terse but fairly complete description of what we're
> trying to find.  Unfortunately Kate MacAlpine is listed as belonging
> to the Atlas collaboration, so that means we don't talk...
>
> First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
> have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going
> out for two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly
> 00-0800 shifts left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when
> they do the first actual collisions of the beams.

What bikes do you currently own ? Anything worth having first dibs on ?

;-)

-- 
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'89 K100RS
'53 JCW MCS

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, "Brownz @ Work" 
 typed
>Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:23 +0100, Pip
>>  wrote in
>> :
>>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>
>>> 
>>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcp
>>>id=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>>
>> Well, when you get the right link...  (it's up on YouTube too).
>> It's a very terse but fairly complete description of what we're
>> trying to find.  Unfortunately Kate MacAlpine is listed as belonging
>> to the Atlas collaboration, so that means we don't talk...
>>
>> First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
>> have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going
>> out for two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly
>> 00-0800 shifts left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when
>> they do the first actual collisions of the beams.
>
>What bikes do you currently own ? Anything worth having first dibs on ?

There's a thought.

Imagine the loonies were right, and the LHC did create a black hole that 
ATE THE EARTH! <cough>

How fast would the event horizon expand? Would we have time to shout 
"You *cunts*"? Would there be time for a frantic last shag? To open that 
bottle of Syrah that I'm saving for a special occasion?

ITWSBT.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
> There's a thought.
>
> Imagine the loonies were right, and the LHC did create a black hole
> that ATE THE EARTH! <cough>
>
> How fast would the event horizon expand? Would we have time to shout
> "You *cunts*"? Would there be time for a frantic last shag? To open
> that bottle of Syrah that I'm saving for a special occasion?
>
> ITWSBT.

The black hole would be microscopic.  Even if it escaped, it would take 
years to fall to the core.  You'd have time to drink yourself to death on 
much better stuff than Syrah.  Later, there might be earthquakes.

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus 
 typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>>
>> There's a thought.
>>
>> Imagine the loonies were right, and the LHC did create a black hole
>> that ATE THE EARTH! <cough>
>>
>> How fast would the event horizon expand? Would we have time to shout
>> "You *cunts*"? Would there be time for a frantic last shag? To open
>> that bottle of Syrah that I'm saving for a special occasion?
>>
>> ITWSBT.
>
>The black hole would be microscopic.  Even if it escaped, it would take 
>years to fall to the core.  You'd have time to drink yourself to death 
>on much better stuff than Syrah.  Later, there might be earthquakes.

*Cool*.

Bring it on, white-coats!

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:12:47 GMT, "platypus"
 wrote:

>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>>
>> There's a thought.
>>
>> Imagine the loonies were right, and the LHC did create a black hole
>> that ATE THE EARTH! <cough>
>>
>> How fast would the event horizon expand? Would we have time to shout
>> "You *cunts*"? Would there be time for a frantic last shag? To open
>> that bottle of Syrah that I'm saving for a special occasion?
>>
>> ITWSBT.
>
>The black hole would be microscopic.  Even if it escaped, it would take 
>years to fall to the core.  You'd have time to drink yourself to death on 
>much better stuff than Syrah.  

Quite so - WUN should read this :
http://www.exitmundi.nl/blackholes_lab.htm

-- 
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Two standard issue crutches
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:45:29 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel

 wrote in <+RtWHYvpdvvIJAdv@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Dr Ivan D. Reid 
> typed
>>On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:23 +0100, Pip 
>> wrote in :
>>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:

>>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpi
>>>d=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589

>>       Well, when you get the right link...  (it's up on YouTube too).
>>It's a very terse but fairly complete description of what we're trying to
>>find.  Unfortunately Kate MacAlpine is listed as belonging to the Atlas
>>collaboration, so that means we don't talk...

>>       First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
>>have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
>>two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
>>left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
>>collisions of the beams.

> I envy you.
 
> Mind, I do have a mental image of a bunch of white-coats going:

	Well, if you find the article in the Telegraph that accompanied
the UChoob link, you'll see that Kate reckoned they got some strange
looks filming the vid -- because almost _nobody_ wears white coats at CERN!

	Still, since we're supposed to wear safety boots and safety
hemlets on shift, I now have a nice pair of non-metallic composite-toed[1]
safety boots which could be worn through the metal detectors at Heathrow[2]
-- except that they ask you to take your shoes off at the T5 security check...

> "Shit! Left a bit... Shit! Up! Shit! Left! Shit! Down! NOT THAT MUCH! 
> Shit! Up a bit! SHIT! We're gonna be here all night...."
 
> It's probably *much* more scientific that that...

	You might be surprised. 

[1] One of our other experiments uses very strong magnetic fields and steel
is verboten so we've bought the same sort of boots for everyone.
[2] The brand name is "Airside".

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

['Ware followups!]

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:37:34 +0200, Tosspot 
 wrote in <g9ns5b$f1v$02$3@news.t-online.com>:
> Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:

>> 	First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
>> have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
>> two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
>> left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
>> collisions of the beams.
 
><worried> You mean there's no beam collisions on the 10th?  I've been 
> telling everybody not to worry about a launch delay because there won't 
> be an 11th[1], now I have to tell them this could go on for days, 
> possibly into commissioning.  It might even get to my credit card due 
> date :(

	I'm somewhat afraid -- but only because they've arranged _massive_
media coverage for the 10th.  I hope they've built some (more) slack into
the timetable.  The 10th is for the first injection of beam and steering
it/them (not sure if they'll try both ways at once first-up) all the way
around the ring.  The next two steps are to start accelerating the
injected beams up to the required energy, and then to steer the beams into
collisions at the crossover points.  I'm not sure if they are going to get
up to full energy (5 TeV each way this year) before trying collisions, or
if they'll start colliding before top energy is reached.

> 9 Billions Names Of God again....

	We've got much faster computers these days, 9 billion is trivial.
(Calculations I struggled to get from 30 hrs/run down to 5 hrs/run in
1975 now run in 3 seconds on my desktop PC.)

	BTW, I notice that the BBC iPlayer has made a massive boo-boo in
its description of a program being broadcast on BBC4 at 9 pm tonight:

"The Big Bang Machine
	A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
of a black hole begins."

	The preceding programme (8 pm) is:

"Lost Horizons: The Big Bang
	Jim Al Khalili tells the story behind the Big Bang theory of the
universe's creation."

	Both are probably worth watching -- Jim's a pretty good talker.

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:12:47 GMT, platypus 
 wrote in <3hQvk.52901$E41.47320@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

>> There's a thought.

>> Imagine the loonies were right, and the LHC did create a black hole
>> that ATE THE EARTH! <cough>

>> How fast would the event horizon expand? Would we have time to shout
>> "You *cunts*"? Would there be time for a frantic last shag? To open
>> that bottle of Syrah that I'm saving for a special occasion?

>> ITWSBT.
 
> The black hole would be microscopic.  Even if it escaped, it would take 
> years to fall to the core.  You'd have time to drink yourself to death on 
> much better stuff than Syrah.  Later, there might be earthquakes.

http://standanddeliver.blogs.com/dombo/files/Marty_weather.mp3 

-- 
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Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> ['Ware followups!]
> 
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:37:34 +0200, Tosspot 
>  wrote in <g9ns5b$f1v$02$3@news.t-online.com>:


>> 9 Billions Names Of God again....
> 
> 	We've got much faster computers these days, 9 billion is trivial.
> (Calculations I struggled to get from 30 hrs/run down to 5 hrs/run in
> 1975 now run in 3 seconds on my desktop PC.)

They were real Imperial billions in Arthur's day,
not the tiny billions that Johnny Foreigner uses.

Has anyone actually read it? Are there enough details in the story
to fully describe the algorithm required?

-- 
Eiron.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:55:37 +0100, Eiron 
 wrote in :
> Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>> ['Ware followups!]
 
>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:37:34 +0200, Tosspot 
>>  wrote in <g9ns5b$f1v$02$3@news.t-online.com>:
 
>>> 9 Billions Names Of God again....
 
>> 	We've got much faster computers these days, 9 billion is trivial.
>> (Calculations I struggled to get from 30 hrs/run down to 5 hrs/run in
>> 1975 now run in 3 seconds on my desktop PC.)
 
> They were real Imperial billions in Arthur's day,
> not the tiny billions that Johnny Foreigner uses.
 
> Has anyone actually read it? Are there enough details in the story
> to fully describe the algorithm required?

	Yes, except perhaps not enough detail of the actual alphabet.
It's quite short and easily found on the Web.

http://lucis.net/stuff/clarke/9billion_clarke.html took about 20 seconds --
Chrome suggests possible links as you type in the Omnibox.

-- 
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Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:55:37 +0100, Eiron 
>  wrote in :
>> Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>>> ['Ware followups!]
>  
>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:37:34 +0200, Tosspot 
>>>  wrote in <g9ns5b$f1v$02$3@news.t-online.com>:
>  
>>>> 9 Billions Names Of God again....
>  
>>> 	We've got much faster computers these days, 9 billion is trivial.
>>> (Calculations I struggled to get from 30 hrs/run down to 5 hrs/run in
>>> 1975 now run in 3 seconds on my desktop PC.)
>  
>> They were real Imperial billions in Arthur's day,
>> not the tiny billions that Johnny Foreigner uses.
>  
>> Has anyone actually read it? Are there enough details in the story
>> to fully describe the algorithm required?
> 
> 	Yes, except perhaps not enough detail of the actual alphabet.
> It's quite short and easily found on the Web.
> 
> http://lucis.net/stuff/clarke/9billion_clarke.html

How many letters in the special alphabet?
I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader.

Eiron.

Pip  wrote in 
news:ic4qb41s3acqq848uhv59jsioi891ioq1q@4ax.com:

> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
> 
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcpid=
1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
> 

Mock the Week had a bit about what FB called the "black hole machine"

Available on iplayer & UKNova

-- 
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BMW R1150GS

In article ,
 "Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:

> "Lost Horizons: The Big Bang
> 	Jim Al Khalili tells the story behind the Big Bang theory of the
> universe's creation."
> 
> 	Both are probably worth watching -- Jim's a pretty good talker.

I saw this, it is pretty good.

-- 
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In the end there is one dance you'll do alone
skype: muddycat
http://picasaweb.google.com/bammynmuddy/VisorSock

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> ['Ware followups!]

[followups adjusted]

> 	BTW, I notice that the BBC iPlayer has made a massive boo-boo in
> its description of a program being broadcast on BBC4 at 9 pm tonight:
> 
> "The Big Bang Machine
> 	A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
> of a black hole begins."
> 

Eeeek!

> 	The preceding programme (8 pm) is:
> 
> "Lost Horizons: The Big Bang
> 	Jim Al Khalili tells the story behind the Big Bang theory of the
> universe's creation."
> 
> 	Both are probably worth watching -- Jim's a pretty good talker.

Bother were good, I thought. Enjoyed a lot of the "Lost Horizons" one by 
  remebering various bits from when I saw them first time round, though 
bit worrying to realise that some were from 30 years ago.

Who was the presenter of the LHC one? He kept making me think of someone 
else, but can't think who. Could almost have been Roger Waters at times.

And I've just been reminded of a clue I meant to pass on from the Eye a 
fortnight ago:

"Physicist's method with emptied penis (6)"

-- 
JonG
Which is worse: Ignorance or Apathy?
I don't know, and I don't care.

JonG wrote:

>> "The Big Bang Machine
>>     A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
>> of a black hole begins."
>>

Oh, and:

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080904

-- 
JonG
Which is worse: Ignorance or Apathy?
I don't know, and I don't care.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:56:47 +0100, JonG

 wrote in <007eea42$0$27053$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>:
> JonG wrote:
 
>>> "The Big Bang Machine
>>>     A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
>>> of a black hole begins."

> Oh, and:
 
> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080904

	LOLZ!  (I swear, I'll kill myself now; I came up with that response
_before_ checking out the few previous strips!)

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:25:43 +0100, JonG

 wrote in <007ee2fb$0$27049$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>:

> Who was the presenter of the LHC one? He kept making me think of someone 
> else, but can't think who. Could almost have been Roger Waters at times.

	Brian Cox (from Manchester, IIRC).  Both shows are on iPlayer for
the next week.  I was most interested by Fred Hoyle's accent in the first
show.  Not quite what you expect from such a revered scientist (and
reviled science-fiction writer...)

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

In message , Pip 
 writes
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:57:08 +0100, "Brownz @ Work"
> wrote:
>
>>Pip wrote:
>>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>>
>>> 
>>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcp
>>>id=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>>
>>Bullet proof cornflour ?
>
>Bugger.  That cornflour thing was prety good, mind.
>
>This is the one I wanted:
>
>http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1452197391/bclid1453516501
>/bctid1753815421
>
And so enters a new verb into the language  - "to Pip"


-- 
geoff

In message , Pip 
 writes
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:57:08 +0100, "Brownz @ Work"
> wrote:
>
>>Pip wrote:
>>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>>
>>> 
>>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bcp
>>>id=1452197391&bclid=1453516501&bctid=1766131589
>>
>>Bullet proof cornflour ?
>
>Bugger.  That cornflour thing was prety good, mind.
>
>This is the one I wanted:
>
>http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1452197391/bclid1453516501
>/bctid1753815421
>
I was wondering what happens if they find a Higgs boson on the first day

... do they shout "hurrah", open a bottle and go home ?

-- 
geoff

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> 	BTW, I notice that the BBC iPlayer has made a massive boo-boo in
> its description of a program being broadcast on BBC4 at 9 pm tonight:
> 
> "The Big Bang Machine
> 	A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
> of a black hole begins."

Later, Newsnight tried to keep the pillow over the face of standards. 
Being interviewed FNAR[viz] about the merkin erection, Kent Brockman^w^w 
Tom Brokaw of NBC said "... We have a very large universe in this 
country ...".

-- 
JimP
[viz]For No Apparent Raisin. And just the once.

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:

<snip>

> "Lost Horizons: The Big Bang
> 	Jim Al Khalili tells the story behind the Big Bang theory of the
> universe's creation."
> 
> 	Both are probably worth watching -- Jim's a pretty good talker.

I used to hang about with his sister a bit, nice girl.  But he wasn't 
called Jim in those days (the surname gives it away).  Still lives down 
my neck of the woods.  Good presenter though.

On or around Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:56:47 +0100, JonG
 enlightened us thusly:

>JonG wrote:
>
>>> "The Big Bang Machine
>>>     A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
>>> of a black hole begins."
>>>
>
>Oh, and:
>
>http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080904

Cloff!
-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.net  my opinions are just that
Travel The Galaxy!  Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\   
   >>  http://www.schlockmercenary.com/  <<      \  ...and Kill them.
a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!

Jim Price wrote:
> Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>>     BTW, I notice that the BBC iPlayer has made a massive boo-boo in
>> its description of a program being broadcast on BBC4 at 9 pm tonight:
>>
>> "The Big Bang Machine
>>     A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
>> of a black hole begins."
> 
> Later, Newsnight tried to keep the pillow over the face of standards. 
> Being interviewed FNAR[viz] about the merkin erection, Kent Brockman^w^w 
> Tom Brokaw of NBC said "... We have a very large universe in this 
> country ...".
> 
Bigger on the inside, then...

-- 
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 23:17:46 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
 wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:25:43 +0100, JonG
>
> wrote in <007ee2fb$0$27049$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>:
>
>> Who was the presenter of the LHC one? He kept making me think of someone 
>> else, but can't think who. Could almost have been Roger Waters at times.
>
>	Brian Cox (from Manchester, IIRC).  Both shows are on iPlayer for
>the next week.  I was most interested by Fred Hoyle's accent in the first
>show.  Not quite what you expect from such a revered scientist (and
>reviled science-fiction writer...)

We watched the LHC one. Brendan (15) listed the particles in the
standard model while I looked blank. Apparently there's a thing called
"The Internet" where he learns about all this stuff. 

And when $BRAINYSCIENTIST was explaining string theory, he took issue
with his explanation.

The boy's not right in the head. 
-- 
Tim

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 00:59:54 +0100, geoff 
 wrote in :

> I was wondering what happens if they find a Higgs boson on the first day
 
> ... do they shout "hurrah", open a bottle and go home ?

	Hey listen, we're in it for the long run, signed up for ten years.
We find it the first day, that's nine years 364 days' holiday -- at your
taxpayers' expense! 

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
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        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

In uk.rec.sheds,  (Dr Ivan D. Reid) wrote in
::

>On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:25:43 +0100, JonG
>
> wrote in <007ee2fb$0$27049$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>:
>
>> Who was the presenter of the LHC one? He kept making me think of someone 
>> else, but can't think who. Could almost have been Roger Waters at times.
>
>	Brian Cox (from Manchester, IIRC).  Both shows are on iPlayer for
>the next week.  I was most interested by Fred Hoyle's accent in the first
>show.  Not quite what you expect from such a revered scientist (and
>reviled science-fiction writer...)

Well-known as a grumpy old git, in his day.  If they'd had "Grumpy Old
Men" on the telly in those days, he'd have been an obvious signing.

He invented the term "Big Bang", but meant it derisively- he was a
staunch supporter of Steady State/Continuous Creation.
-- 
Marc

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. (Oscar Wilde)

On 05/09/2008 08:19, Tim Hall wrote:

> Brendan (15) listed the particles in the
> standard model while I looked blank. Apparently there's a thing called
> "The Internet" where he learns about all this stuff. 

Fermilab's found a narj party cull while rummaging down the back of the sofa

http://www.interactions.org/cms/?pid=1026747

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:19:49 +0100, Tim Hall 
 wrote in :

> We watched the LHC one. Brendan (15) listed the particles in the
> standard model while I looked blank. Apparently there's a thing called
> "The Internet" where he learns about all this stuff. 

	He's lucky.  I'm trying to learn it by osmosis.
 
> And when $BRAINYSCIENTIST was explaining string theory, he took issue
> with his explanation.

	That was John Ellis, wasn't it.  The description sounded a bit
wonky to me too, but I think he was trying to dumb it down for the masses.
Anyway, something that's made no testable predictions and is unlikely to
make any that we _can_ test any time short of galactic domination hardly
deserves the name "theory".
 
> The boy's not right in the head. 

	Send him to study with us, we'll make sure he stays that way!

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On 2008-09-05, Dr Ivan D. Reid  wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:19:49 +0100, Tim Hall 
>  wrote in :
>
>> We watched the LHC one. Brendan (15) listed the particles in the
>> standard model while I looked blank. Apparently there's a thing called
>> "The Internet" where he learns about all this stuff. 
>
> 	He's lucky.  I'm trying to learn it by osmosis.

I tried to study for my degree like that. Buy all the books and sleep near them.
It doesn't work.


-- 
          "Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
                 and presumptuous desire for a second one."
               [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

The message 
from Tim Hall  contains these words:

> string theory

Oh, I have a string theory. It's simple. I'm going to give that little
pest Pip a good telling off for turning a respectable ball of string
into a thing resembling a rats' nest.

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

On or around Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:56:47 +0100, JonG
 enlightened us thusly:

>JonG wrote:
>
>>> "The Big Bang Machine
>>>     A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
>>> of a black hole begins."
>>>
>
>Oh, and:
>
>http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080904

the next one's good as well.
-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.net  my opinions are just that
Travel The Galaxy!  Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\   
   >>  http://www.schlockmercenary.com/  <<      \  ...and Kill them.
a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!

Tim Hall wrote:

> We watched the LHC one. Brendan (15) listed the particles in the
> standard model while I looked blank. Apparently there's a thing called
> "The Internet" where he learns about all this stuff. 

I Irritated Rikki by predicting what they were going to mention next:

"Higgs Boson"[1]...."God Particle"...."Strong and Weak intranuclear 
forces"...."Grand Unified Theory"...

By this time, Rosie had come downstairs as she couldn't sleep, and 
they'd got onto String theory, so I had to whisper in her ear not to ask 
me to explain it because I couldn't.


-- 
JonG
Which is worse: Ignorance or Apathy?
I don't know, and I don't care.

On 2 Sep, 11:13, Pip  wrote:

> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bc...

http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1220690342001.jpg [nsfw]

On or around Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:32:58 +0100, Austin Shackles
 enlightened us thusly:

>On or around Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:56:47 +0100, JonG
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>JonG wrote:
>>
>>>> "The Big Bang Machine
>>>>     A look around the LHC before the experiment to create a simulation
>>>> of a black hole begins."
>>>>
>>
>>Oh, and:
>>
>>http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080904
>
>the next one's good as well.

I have to say that one of the characters in userfriendly reminds me of
arGid.  Perhaps it's not for nothing that his pooter fubc were called Uzer
Friendly...
-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.net  my opinions are just that
Travel The Galaxy!  Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\   
   >>  http://www.schlockmercenary.com/  <<      \  ...and Kill them.
a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!

Cane wrote:
> On 2 Sep, 11:13, Pip  wrote:
>
>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bc...
>
> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1220690342001.jpg [nsfw]

Cool - a different 404 not found cartoon everytime you refresh the page.

-- 
Cheerz - Brownz
'89 K100RS
'53 JCW MCS (Cage)
http://www.brownz.org/

In message <Lluwk.154123$6s4.75317@newsfe14.ams2>, "Brownz (Mobile)" 
 writes
>Cane wrote:
>> On 2 Sep, 11:13, Pip  wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone spot Ivan in this video:
>>>
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/tvplayer/?ID=News&bc...
>>
>> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1220690342001.jpg [nsfw]
>
>Cool - a different 404 not found cartoon everytime you refresh the page.
>
Ah - but there's a website behind it


-- 
geoff

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
 saying something like:

>First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th

Stunning stuff this morning.
-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:27:13 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
 wrote:

>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
> saying something like:
>
>>First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th
>
>Stunning stuff this morning.

Do you think they picked today because the date is 10-9-8...
-- 
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:15:32 GMT, Champ  allegedly 
wrote:

> Do you think they picked today because the date is 10-9-8...

It's only 8 if you conveniently drop the other 2000 years.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:15:32 +0100, Champ 
 wrote in :
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:27:13 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
> wrote:
 
>>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
>> saying something like:

>>>First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th

>>Stunning stuff this morning.

	And this afternoon, tho' I saw less of that than the morning's
effort.  They are calling them the two Golden Hours.  The detector people
all seem tickled pink, as they picked up enough debris from the protons
colliding with the beam-stops and residual gas in the vacuum pipe to get
lots of hits in the sensors.  The machine people are over the moon, of
course, as they didn't expect to be trying for the second beam until
tomorrow at the earliest.
 
> Do you think they picked today because the date is 10-9-8...

	Sure of it.  :-)

-- 
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Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:03:33 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon

 wrote in <ga996m$729$1@registered.motzarella.org>:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
> saying something like:
 
>>>>Stunning stuff this morning.

>>	And this afternoon,
 
> BBC R4 news has just announced that Physicians around the world have
> been celebrating.

	Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
a congratulatory e-mail.

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
 saying something like:

>On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:03:33 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
>
> wrote in <ga996m$729$1@registered.motzarella.org>:
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
>> saying something like:
> 
>>>>>Stunning stuff this morning.
>
>>>	And this afternoon,
> 
>> BBC R4 news has just announced that Physicians around the world have
>> been celebrating.
>
>	Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>a congratulatory e-mail.

Probably the only one accurately described as such, in that case.

I despair - where are the Beeb recruiting from these days? I mean, not
just the news writer, but the reader too.
-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House

"Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:

>	Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>a congratulatory e-mail.

I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
familization trip in the offing.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember vulgarandmischevious
 saying something like:

>I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>familization trip in the offing.

Planning to catch a penguin?
-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 
vulgarandmischevious  typed
>"Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:
>
>>      Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>>a congratulatory e-mail.
>
>I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>familization trip in the offing.

You daft fucker, there are no telegraph poles for you to hit for fucking 
*miles*.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

Wicked Uncle Nigel  wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 
>vulgarandmischevious  typed
>>"Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:
>>
>>>      Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>>>a congratulatory e-mail.
>>
>>I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>>familization trip in the offing.
>
>You daft fucker, there are no telegraph poles for you to hit for fucking 
>*miles*.

That's the good thing about it!

Grimly Curmudgeon  wrote:

>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember vulgarandmischevious
> saying something like:
>
>>I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>>familization trip in the offing.
>
>Planning to catch a penguin?

Dunno.  Are they good eating?

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 
vulgarandmischevious  typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel  wrote:
>
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
>>vulgarandmischevious  typed
>>>"Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>>>>a congratulatory e-mail.
>>>
>>>I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>>>familization trip in the offing.
>>
>>You daft fucker, there are no telegraph poles for you to hit for fucking
>>*miles*.
>
>That's the good thing about it!


There may be a certain "traction" issue too. Choose tyres carefully.

-- 
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:54:45 -0600, vulgarandmischevious

 wrote in :
> "Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:
 
>>	Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>>a congratulatory e-mail.
 
> I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
> familization trip in the offing.

	McMurdo's OK, you can fly in.  When it was Hercs from ChiChi back
in '80 there was a limit of something like 120 kg for you and all your
kit -- one of our guys was over 120 w/o a stitch of clothing...

	Anything you could use a Fortran/C/C++/assembler guy for?

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

"Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:54:45 -0600, vulgarandmischevious
>
> wrote in :
>> "Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:
> 
>>>	Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>>>a congratulatory e-mail.
> 
>> I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>> familization trip in the offing.
>
>	McMurdo's OK, you can fly in.  When it was Hercs from ChiChi back
>in '80 there was a limit of something like 120 kg for you and all your
>kit -- one of our guys was over 120 w/o a stitch of clothing...

heh.  We've just hired the previous Program Manager, and he's a smart
motherfucker.  A true event down there on his watch inspired an
episode of House MD.

>	Anything you could use a Fortran/C/C++/assembler guy for?

The contract is for base ops, so if you can mend fences, clean
latrines, cook meals, or anything like that - you're in.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:43:34 +0000 (UTC), wessie 
 wrote in :
> "Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote in 
> news:slrngcj032.oig.Ivan.Reid@loki.brunel.ac.uk:
 
>>      Anything you could use a Fortran/C/C++/assembler guy for?
 
> So, you're with Hawking then. Interviewed on the BBC saying something like, 
> "I've bet $100 that they find diddly shit."

	Not quite, but I need a few years of a decent wage before I retire.
I can still have my name on any paper published within two years of my
leaving the collaboration, so ideally I want to stay around until something
interesting happens but, as they say, money talks![1]

[1] "I'm a threpenny bit!" -- S Milligna

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:29:48 -0600, vulgarandmischevious

 wrote in :
> Grimly Curmudgeon  wrote:
 
>>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>drugs began to take hold. I remember vulgarandmischevious
>> saying something like:

>>>I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>>>familization trip in the offing.

>>Planning to catch a penguin?
 
> Dunno.  Are they good eating?

	No.  And their eggs have a strong fish taste.  So I'm told...

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD         "You Porsche. Me pass!"   DoD #484     JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000   LC Unit #2368 (tinlc)   UKMC#00009   BOTAFOT#16    UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:43:34 +0000 (UTC), wessie
 wrote:

>"Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote in 
>news:slrngcj032.oig.Ivan.Reid@loki.brunel.ac.uk:
>
>
>>      Anything you could use a Fortran/C/C++/assembler guy for?
>> 
>
>So, you're with Hawking then. Interviewed on the BBC saying something like, 
>"I've bet $100 that they find diddly shit."

I think his bet is more specifically that they don't find the Higgs
boson.
-- 
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To email me, neal at my domain should work.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember vulgarandmischevious
 saying something like:

>>Planning to catch a penguin?
>
>Dunno.  Are they good eating?

I see Ivan's already answered. Offhand, I don't know what eats them -
big seals with lots of teeth, I suppose, or lawyers - but I'd imagine
they would be quite fishy. Which would be fine if you were starving.
Fish and fowl in the same dish, yummy.
-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House

In article ,
vulgarandmischevious  writes
>"Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:54:45 -0600, vulgarandmischevious
>>
>> wrote in :
>>> "Dr Ivan D. Reid"  wrote:
>> 
>>>>    Well, the one at Davis Base, Antarctica, had been -- he sent me
>>>>a congratulatory e-mail.
>> 
>>> I'm writing a bid for a job in Antartica; McMurdo.  Hope there's a
>>> familization trip in the offing.
>>
>>      McMurdo's OK, you can fly in.  When it was Hercs from ChiChi back
>>in '80 there was a limit of something like 120 kg for you and all your
>>kit -- one of our guys was over 120 w/o a stitch of clothing...
>
>heh.  We've just hired the previous Program Manager, and he's a smart
>motherfucker.  A true event down there on his watch inspired an
>episode of House MD.
>
>>      Anything you could use a Fortran/C/C++/assembler guy for?
>
>The contract is for base ops, so if you can mend fences, clean
>latrines, cook meals, or anything like that - you're in.

<perk>

Do they need Polar Bear scarers?

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:59:57 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon

 wrote in <gadi3d$364$1@registered.motzarella.org>:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember vulgarandmischevious
> saying something like:
 
>>>Planning to catch a penguin?

>>Dunno.  Are they good eating?
 
> I see Ivan's already answered. Offhand, I don't know what eats them -
> big seals with lots of teeth, I suppose, or lawyers - but I'd imagine
> they would be quite fishy. Which would be fine if you were starving.
> Fish and fowl in the same dish, yummy.

	Leopard seals mainly, and orcas.  Main problem is a leopard seal
is a bit dim and can't distinguish between a penguin and a human.  It's
quite disconcerting when a lepoard seal comes up beneath the piece of ice
you are on and tries to upend it so it can get a "penguin" lunch...

	Oh, and skuas go for the eggs, young, and weak.

-- 
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Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
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Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:

> 	First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
> have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
> two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
> left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
> collisions of the beams.
> 

I found a Higgs boson, it's grey and fuzzy.

http://tinyurl.com/5zdnuh

In article <48cc3024$0$13388$6e1ede2f@read.cnntp.org>,
 Muck  wrote:

> Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> 
> > 	First full circuits of the beams are scheduled for the 10th.  They
> > have already injected both ways into the first sectors.  I'm going out for
> > two weeks from the 14th, hopefully to run shifts (mostly 00-0800 shifts
> > left not yet signed up...) so I may be around when they do the first actual
> > collisions of the beams.
> > 
> 
> I found a Higgs boson, it's grey and fuzzy.

Ivan could find a few of those if he looked under my desk.

-- 
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Muck 
saying something like:

>I found a Higgs boson, it's grey and fuzzy.

I knew of a bo'sun called Higgs. Met with a sticky end, apparently.

This isn't him.
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider#Higgs.27_Bo.27sun

Looks like Classic Rider has been reading about the Van Allen belts on
that site.

-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Muck 
> saying something like:
> 
>> I found a Higgs boson, it's grey and fuzzy.
> 
> I knew of a bo'sun called Higgs. Met with a sticky end, apparently.
> 
> This isn't him.
> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider#Higgs.27_Bo.27sun
> 
> Looks like Classic Rider has been reading about the Van Allen belts on
> that site.
> 

Heh... excellent.