http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing

ws

I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page

-- 
Lozzo

On Aug 19, 11:09 am, "Lozzo"  wrote:
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
>
> ws
>
> I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page

<plaintive>

My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.  And it's cheaper than almost
everything on that page, *and* it has engine internals...

--
Champ on hols

Champ wrote:

> On Aug 19, 11:09 am, "Lozzo"  wrote:
> > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
> > 
> > ws
> > 
> > I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
> 
> <plaintive>
> 
> My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.  And it's cheaper than almost
> everything on that page, and it has engine internals...

The CBR600s with no engine internals are replicas, they've never
actually been raced by any of the riders named - purely display bikes.
I wouldn't mind the '98 Castrol CBR600 in Toseland livery, because I
have a good '98 model engine in mine and a nice Maxton shock to go with
it. Basically it's a new rolling chassis with cases, still worth a
grand or so.

Unfortunately I can't afford your Gixer right now, much as I'd love it.

-- 
Lozzo

Lozzo wrote:
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing

Recently registered seller with zero feedback selling
high value items ... are you mad?!?!?!

--
Antony

On Aug 19, 10:13 am, Champ  wrote:
> On Aug 19, 11:09 am, "Lozzo"  wrote:
>
> >http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
>
> > ws
>
> > I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
>
> <plaintive>
>
> My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.

So is My ZX12-R, my VTR1000, my CCM R30 and the black CB250N

Are there any takers in the current "climate" ? ;)

P.

Lozzo wrote:

> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
> 
> ws
> 
> I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page

I forwarded that to a (very rich) mate in NZ, & he's going after the
NR. If he wins it, I'll offer to to sort out the shipping this end...
;-)

-- 
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
Off-Road Classifieds

'02 MV Senna  '03 Tiger 955i  '96 Tiger  '79 Fantic Hiro 250

Champ wrote:
> On Aug 19, 11:09 am, "Lozzo"  wrote:
>> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
>>
>> ws
>>
>> I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
> 
> <plaintive>
> 
> My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.  And it's cheaper than almost
> everything on that page, *and* it has engine internals...

I should fucking hope so.


-- 
FZ1-N GS650GT Go-Ped Sport
BOMB#14 ibW#40 LotR#0 (RIP) BOTAFOT#157 BotM#3

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Champ 
wrote:

>On Aug 19, 11:09 am, "Lozzo"  wrote:
>> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
>>
>> ws
>>
>> I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
>
><plaintive>
>
>My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.  And it's cheaper than almost
>everything on that page, *and* it has engine internals...

Details then man.  

And while you're at it, you could tell me why this would be a better
bet as a track bike than a quite shagged R6 or an old CBR600.

 
-- 
Macie
ZZR600E1 | Baghira 660

"Lozzo"  wrote
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
>
> ws
>
> I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page

Absofuckinglutely

<fx: looks for current market value of two kidneys, a liver and a set of 
moderately-smoked lungs>
<fx2: hangs head in disappointment>

I recall the fuss when the NR first came out, with all the tech showoff-ness 
Honda could cram in a single bike. Some people at a Greek motorcycle 
magazine went and bought one, then did a full test on the bike. They even 
managed to burn the clutch disks during the test.


Geo

Geo wrote:

> "Lozzo"  wrote
> > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
> > 
> > ws
> > 
> > I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
> 
> Absofuckinglutely
> 
> <fx: looks for current market value of two kidneys, a liver and a set
> of moderately-smoked lungs> <fx2: hangs head in disappointment>
> 
> I recall the fuss when the NR first came out, with all the tech
> showoff-ness Honda could cram in a single bike. Some people at a
> Greek motorcycle magazine went and bought one, then did a full test
> on the bike. They even managed to burn the clutch disks during the
> test.

I rode one belonging to a guy called Phil Janes from Norwich, and to
quote Bear "it wasn't all that".

-- 
Lozzo

"Lozzo"  wrote
> Geo wrote:
>
>> "Lozzo"  wrote
>> > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
>> >
>> > ws
>> >
>> > I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
>>
>> Absofuckinglutely
>>
>> <fx: looks for current market value of two kidneys, a liver and a set
>> of moderately-smoked lungs> <fx2: hangs head in disappointment>
>>
>> I recall the fuss when the NR first came out, with all the tech
>> showoff-ness Honda could cram in a single bike. Some people at a
>> Greek motorcycle magazine went and bought one, then did a full test
>> on the bike. They even managed to burn the clutch disks during the
>> test.
>
> I rode one belonging to a guy called Phil Janes from Norwich, and to
> quote Bear "it wasn't all that".

It's mostly the partially subjective idea of mechanological elegance that 
the bike displays rather than any tangible performance benefit. Similar to 
why I like pro-arm or gear-driven cams for instance. IIRC it wasn't much/any 
faster than the Gixxer 750 of the time in a straight line. Never seen one, 
would love to though.


Geo

In article <g8f7uq$khc$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>, Geo says...
> "Lozzo"  wrote
> > Geo wrote:
> >
> >> "Lozzo"  wrote
> >> > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
> >> >
> >> > ws
> >> >
> >> > I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
> >>
> >> Absofuckinglutely
> >>
> >> <fx: looks for current market value of two kidneys, a liver and a set
> >> of moderately-smoked lungs> <fx2: hangs head in disappointment>
> >>
> >> I recall the fuss when the NR first came out, with all the tech
> >> showoff-ness Honda could cram in a single bike. Some people at a
> >> Greek motorcycle magazine went and bought one, then did a full test
> >> on the bike. They even managed to burn the clutch disks during the
> >> test.
> >
> > I rode one belonging to a guy called Phil Janes from Norwich, and to
> > quote Bear "it wasn't all that".
> 
> It's mostly the partially subjective idea of mechanological elegance that 
> the bike displays rather than any tangible performance benefit. Similar to 
> why I like pro-arm or gear-driven cams for instance. IIRC it wasn't much/any 
> faster than the Gixxer 750 of the time in a straight line. Never seen one, 
> would love to though.

The weirdest thing about the NR750 was that Honda decided to de-tune the 
fuck out it.  It was heavier, on account of its engine internals and 
massive cooling, but that could have been offset by them making it 
amazingly powerful, for its day.

That they decided not to, for fear of upsetting anyone, tells you all 
you need to know about Honda.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear  wrote:

> The weirdest thing about the NR750 was that Honda decided to de-tune the
> fuck out it. 

I could *never* understand why they did that, unless it was because they
feared that Europe would adopt a close-to-100bhp limit.

I think that engine could, possibly, have delivered over 150bhp and
possibly close to 200bhp.


-- 
BMW K1100LT  Ducati 750SS  Yamaha XT600E  Honda CB400F
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
"What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time
and hassle for no tangible benefit."

In article <1ilxvoz.43a8yh16lpkzeN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk>, The 
Older Gentleman says...
> Bear  wrote:
> 
> > The weirdest thing about the NR750 was that Honda decided to de-tune the
> > fuck out it. 
> 
> I could *never* understand why they did that, unless it was because they
> feared that Europe would adopt a close-to-100bhp limit.

IIRC that was the theory at the time.

Although I once saw someone write that there may have been some plan at 
HRC to go 4-stroke oval piston racing outside the GP arena, and they 
wanted to set themselves up so they could say "but it's not that much 
more powerful than what's out there ATM, so don't give us a huge 
capacity multiplier" ... this sounds like bollocks to me, coz surely 
someone would have pointed at the older NR500 GP bike and gone "hang on, 
didn't that make almost as much power as a 500cc 2-stroke?  Jog on".

> I think that engine could, possibly, have delivered over 150bhp and
> possibly close to 200bhp.

Well IIRC it started with 120-125, and was strangled to fuck, so I 
reckon that although 200 seems a bit high, 175-ish in road trim was do-
able.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

"Bear"  wrote
> In article <1ilxvoz.43a8yh16lpkzeN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk>, The
> Older Gentleman says...
>> Bear  wrote:
>>
>> > The weirdest thing about the NR750 was that Honda decided to de-tune 
>> > the
>> > fuck out it.
>>
>> I could *never* understand why they did that, unless it was because they
>> feared that Europe would adopt a close-to-100bhp limit.
>
> IIRC that was the theory at the time.
>
> Although I once saw someone write that there may have been some plan at
> HRC to go 4-stroke oval piston racing outside the GP arena, and they
> wanted to set themselves up so they could say "but it's not that much
> more powerful than what's out there ATM, so don't give us a huge
> capacity multiplier" ... this sounds like bollocks to me, coz surely
> someone would have pointed at the older NR500 GP bike and gone "hang on,
> didn't that make almost as much power as a 500cc 2-stroke?  Jog on".
>
>> I think that engine could, possibly, have delivered over 150bhp and
>> possibly close to 200bhp.
>
> Well IIRC it started with 120-125, and was strangled to fuck, so I
> reckon that although 200 seems a bit high, 175-ish in road trim was do-
> able.

My question is, why aren't they putting that know how to use now that MotoGP 
bikes are all 4 strokes? Is there provision in the rules banning oval 
pistons?

<fx: googles>

Ah. As you were... (shame really)



Geo

In article <g8gtp3$dd7$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>, Geo says...
> "Bear"  wrote

> > Well IIRC it started with 120-125, and was strangled to fuck, so I
> > reckon that although 200 seems a bit high, 175-ish in road trim was do-
> > able.
> 
> My question is, why aren't they putting that know how to use now that MotoGP 
> bikes are all 4 strokes? Is there provision in the rules banning oval 
> pistons?

There is, yes.  Along with things like forced induction (superchargers, 
turbochargers, etc).

> <fx: googles>
> 
> Ah. As you were... (shame really)

Not really.  All it would do is rocket the costs, and MotoGP bikes don't 
need more power (hence the drop from 1,000 to 800cc), so it'd be a waste 
of time and (lots of) money.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

On Aug 19, 7:53 pm, Macie  wrote:

> >My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.

> Details then man.

2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
(finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.
Painted in gash purple, and the *only* thing wrong with it is it could
probably benefit from a new fairing (200 quid or less), as the current
one is the 'spare' I had after I let a mate have the good one at last
year's MGP.

There's some other stuff I've prolly forgotten.

1800 quid, inc wets on wheels

> And while you're at it, you could tell me why this would be a better
> bet as a track bike than a quite shagged R6

It's not remotely shagged.  It's bloody good.

> or an old CBR600.

This is a good race bike with almost new suspension, and a refreshed
engine making good horsepower.  In what way *wouldn't* it be better
than 'an old CBR600'?

email me on neal at champ dot org dot uk

--
Champ on hols

Champ wrote:
> 
> Painted in gash purple

Is that like "fanny pink", but a bit darker?

> 1800 quid, inc wets on wheels

If it's still unsold once our re-mortgage is sorted...

-- 
Eddie                                                eddie@deguello.org

His: ZX-9R, Elefant 900                   http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm
Hers: Monster S4R, GSX600F (breaking, everything must go!)

On Aug 20, 1:45 pm, Champ  wrote:

> 2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
> (finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
> 2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
> engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
> 122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.


that makes Ogden's 750's power output look particularly shit.

--
d.

darsy wrote:
> On Aug 20, 1:45 pm, Champ  wrote:
> 
> > 2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
> > (finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
> > 2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
> > engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
> > 122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.
> 
> that makes Ogden's 750's power output look particularly shit.

Not biting.

-- 
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

In article <29d7185a-d9b6-49b5-8e17-f2c10cdaa999
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...
> On Aug 20, 1:45 pm, Champ  wrote:
> 
> > 2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
> > (finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
> > 2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
> > engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
> > 122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.
> 
> 
> that makes Ogden's 750's power output look particularly shit.

I thought that too, but it seemed liked kicking a small puppy to say so 
:)
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

"Bear"  wrote
> In article <g8gtp3$dd7$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>, Geo says...
>> "Bear"  wrote
>
>> > Well IIRC it started with 120-125, and was strangled to fuck, so I
>> > reckon that although 200 seems a bit high, 175-ish in road trim was do-
>> > able.
>>
>> My question is, why aren't they putting that know how to use now that 
>> MotoGP
>> bikes are all 4 strokes? Is there provision in the rules banning oval
>> pistons?
>
> There is, yes.  Along with things like forced induction (superchargers,
> turbochargers, etc).
>
>> <fx: googles>
>>
>> Ah. As you were... (shame really)
>
> Not really.  All it would do is rocket the costs, and MotoGP bikes don't
> need more power (hence the drop from 1,000 to 800cc), so it'd be a waste
> of time and (lots of) money.

Fair enough, although I like variety when it comes to engine configurations. 
I'm not complaining though, V4 vs straight and three different valve control 
systems are enough to keep me happy. V5s were nice to have too. Other than 
that, I wonder how feasible it would be mid/long-term to bring the 
technology to production bikes and what benefits that would have.

Regarding the GP bikes, I'm impressed they're managing better times compared 
to the litre ones despite the power deficit and absolutely delighted that 
they are a bit of a handful again. As much as I want all riders to be safe, 
to me this is the first season after a good while where racing reminds me of 
the 2-stroke battles of yesteryear, when riding on the edge often meant 
going past it with losing the front or with a (quite often massive) 
highside.


Geo

In article <g8heev$4j8$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>, Geo says...
> "Bear"  wrote
> > In article <g8gtp3$dd7$1@volcano1.grnet.gr>, Geo says...
> >> "Bear"  wrote
> >
> >> > Well IIRC it started with 120-125, and was strangled to fuck, so I
> >> > reckon that although 200 seems a bit high, 175-ish in road trim was do-
> >> > able.
> >>
> >> My question is, why aren't they putting that know how to use now that 
> >> MotoGP
> >> bikes are all 4 strokes? Is there provision in the rules banning oval
> >> pistons?
> >
> > There is, yes.  Along with things like forced induction (superchargers,
> > turbochargers, etc).
> >
> >> <fx: googles>
> >>
> >> Ah. As you were... (shame really)
> >
> > Not really.  All it would do is rocket the costs, and MotoGP bikes don't
> > need more power (hence the drop from 1,000 to 800cc), so it'd be a waste
> > of time and (lots of) money.
> 
> Fair enough, although I like variety when it comes to engine configurations. 
> I'm not complaining though, V4 vs straight and three different valve control 
> systems are enough to keep me happy. V5s were nice to have too. Other than 
> that, I wonder how feasible it would be mid/long-term to bring the 
> technology to production bikes and what benefits that would have.

The problem tends (not always, but often) to be that, for a given 
engineering problem, there is a "best" solution.  So, as an example, if 
you want power and usability, with light weight, from a 1,000cc bike, 
you want either a 4 or possibly 5 cylindered machine - the era of litre  
capacity V8s, for example, isn't going to come about without a change in 
the rules.

The whole impetus for the oval-piston idea wasn't for a better solution 
per se, but because the rules at the time said that you could, for GP 
bikes, run either a 500cc 2-stroke, or a 500cc 4-stroke.  Without the 
use of forced induction, there's no way a 500cc 4-stroke could have 
matched the 2-strokes, therefore Honda (and others IIRC, although again 
IIRC it was dropped fairly swiftly by everyone but Honda, for cost 
reasons) decided to get creative with the rules in order to take on the 
2-stroke machines.

As to road bike benefits, I honestly think the oval-era necessities have 
passed; these days, screwing sufficient power out of engines isn't the 
issue - even stock litrebikes are now making 160+ bhp.  There isn't the 
impetus to develop those sort of solutions - nowadays it's all about 
harnessing that power and making the bike rideable (ie handling, 
braking, etc) ... it would be perfectly possible to build, say, a 
1,200cc, 4-cylinder roadbike that made close to 200 bhp, even in stock 
trim.  I suspect the big 4 don't do it because they dear the resultant 
lemming-leaps of death among road riders would hasten calls for limits 
to big bikes.  

The other thing is that, and here I may *well* be wrong, reliability on 
oval-pistoned bikes is nightmarish; cylinder sealing alone is enough of 
a headache, and apparently there are other major issues.  I suspect one 
of the reasons Honda only ever made a megabucks road-going oval engined 
bike was that they feared that, if they introduced it on an affordable 
machine (oval VFR750, anyone?), high mileages would show up the 
engineering and materials limitations of the concept.

But of course I'm most likely wrong about the above.

> Regarding the GP bikes, I'm impressed they're managing better times compared 
> to the litre ones despite the power deficit and absolutely delighted that 
> they are a bit of a handful again. As much as I want all riders to be safe, 
> to me this is the first season after a good while where racing reminds me of 
> the 2-stroke battles of yesteryear, when riding on the edge often meant 
> going past it with losing the front or with a (quite often massive) 
> highside.

The most powerful, lightest bike racing class will always be the 
hairiest.  I don't think, for the fastest riders, the 1,000cc bikes were 
ever "easy" to ride, they just made them look that way.  I do wonder if 
better traction control and suchlike is going to ruin MotoGP the way it 
did F1 though ... although I suspect not, as there's more to riding a 
bike than driving a car.
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:45:08 -0700 (PDT), Champ 
wrote:

>On Aug 19, 7:53 pm, Macie  wrote:
>
>> >My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.
>
>> Details then man.
>
>2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
>(finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
>2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
>engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
>122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.
>Painted in gash purple, and the *only* thing wrong with it is it could
>probably benefit from a new fairing (200 quid or less), as the current
>one is the 'spare' I had after I let a mate have the good one at last
>year's MGP.

Yes yes, but does it lean?  None of my bikes to date have...


>This is a good race bike with almost new suspension, and a refreshed
>engine making good horsepower.  In what way *wouldn't* it be better
>than 'an old CBR600'?

Erm, I don't know.  It is above what I had in mind to spend on a toy
though, but does seem a better buy than some of the sheds I've been
watching on ebay.


>email me on neal at champ dot org dot uk

Hmmm.  Bastard.  Developments with a man with a JCB have squeezed
things somewhat, so I'll be needing to re-evaluate solvency levels
after that.


-- 
Macie
ZZR600E1 | Baghira 660

On Aug 20, 3:52 pm, ogden  wrote:
> darsy wrote:

> > that makes Ogden's 750's power output look particularly shit.
>
> Not biting.

O RLY?

--
d.

On Aug 20, 4:30 pm, Bear  wrote:
> In article <29d7185a-d9b6-49b5-8e17-f2c10cdaa999
> @m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...
>
> > On Aug 20, 1:45 pm, Champ  wrote:
>
> > > 2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
> > > (finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
> > > 2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
> > > engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
> > > 122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.
>
> > that makes Ogden's 750's power output look particularly shit.
>
> I thought that too, but it seemed liked kicking a small puppy to say so

you're getting soft, old boy.

--
d.

darsy wrote:
> On Aug 20, 3:52 pm, ogden  wrote:
> > darsy wrote:
> 
> > > that makes Ogden's 750's power output look particularly shit.
> >
> > Not biting.
> 
> O RLY?

Still not biting, but I assure you it's fucking hard work.

-- 
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

In article <452217fd-ebff-456e-a958-
4eaff8301c5c@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...
> On Aug 20, 4:30 pm, Bear  wrote:
> > In article <29d7185a-d9b6-49b5-8e17-f2c10cdaa999
> > @m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...
> >
> > > On Aug 20, 1:45 pm, Champ  wrote:
> >
> > > > 2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
> > > > (finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
> > > > 2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
> > > > engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
> > > > 122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.
> >
> > > that makes Ogden's 750's power output look particularly shit.
> >
> > I thought that too, but it seemed liked kicking a small puppy to say so
> 
> you're getting soft, old boy.

I don't doubt it, but I prefer it my way.

Besides, with you to sweep up the obvious leavings, how does ukrm miss 
out? ;)
-- 
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:34:17 +0100, Eddie  wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>> 
>> Painted in gash purple
>
>Is that like "fanny pink", but a bit darker?
>
>> 1800 quid, inc wets on wheels
>
>If it's still unsold once our re-mortgage is sorted...

<flicks open diary>

...and when is that expected to be?
-- 
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:13:12 +0100, Macie
 wrote:

>>> >My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.
>>
>>> Details then man.
>>
>>2002 GSX-R 600.  Owned by me since 2006, ridden in the 2006 Manx GP
>>(finished in 22nd position, best lap of 115mph).  New Ohlins shock in
>>2006, forks re-valved by Maxton at the same time.  Slick Bass prep'd
>>engine, refreshed in 2007.  Power commander, head work, etc, makes
>>122bhp on his dyno.  Spare wheels.  Brembo radial master cylinder.
>>Painted in gash purple, and the *only* thing wrong with it is it could
>>probably benefit from a new fairing (200 quid or less), as the current
>>one is the 'spare' I had after I let a mate have the good one at last
>>year's MGP.
>
>Yes yes, but does it lean?  None of my bikes to date have...

errm,  yes, it leans. Hang on <googles> - here's some evidence
http://www.iomguide.com/races/database/rider-photo.php?photo=14358


>>This is a good race bike with almost new suspension, and a refreshed
>>engine making good horsepower.  In what way *wouldn't* it be better
>>than 'an old CBR600'?
>
>Erm, I don't know.  It is above what I had in mind to spend on a toy
>though, but does seem a better buy than some of the sheds I've been
>watching on ebay.

I know I'm the seller here, but you'll really struggle to get a better
track bike than this for the money.  

>>email me on neal at champ dot org dot uk
>
>Hmmm.  Bastard.  Developments with a man with a JCB have squeezed
>things somewhat, so I'll be needing to re-evaluate solvency levels
>after that.

<sigh>  Ok, ok.  Let me know.
-- 
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ wrote:

> errm,  yes, it leans. Hang on <googles> - here's some evidence
> http://www.iomguide.com/races/database/rider-photo.php?photo=14358

Pah!  This is leaning:
http://nsd.dyndns.org/MC/1152x864_ruggia.jpg


-- 
Chris

Champ wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:34:17 +0100, Eddie  wrote:
> 
>> Champ wrote:
>>
>>> 1800 quid, inc wets on wheels
>> If it's still unsold once our re-mortgage is sorted...
> 
> <flicks open diary>
> 
> ...and when is that expected to be?

A few weeks, hopefully.

I want a track-bike. Really. Really, really, really. And yours sounds 
like an absolute bargain. It still depends on how the financial 
situation looks when the finances are sorted, so don't hold your breath.

-- 
Eddie                                                eddie@deguello.org

His: ZX-9R, Elefant 900                   http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm
Hers: Monster S4R, GSX600F (breaking, everything must go!)

On 21 Aug 2008 12:07:16 GMT, "CT"  wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> errm,  yes, it leans. Hang on <googles> - here's some evidence
>> http://www.iomguide.com/races/database/rider-photo.php?photo=14358
>
>Pah!  This is leaning:
>http://nsd.dyndns.org/MC/1152x864_ruggia.jpg

heh.  I remember that photo from PB, a decade and a half ago.  From
Donington, IIRC.  But:

1.  I'm not Jean Phillipe Ruggia
2.  Nobody leans that far on road circuits
3.  It was the first photo I could find with a quick google.

If it makes you feel better, you may regard that as a bite.
-- 
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:15:53 +0100, Eddie  wrote:

>>>> 1800 quid, inc wets on wheels

>>> If it's still unsold once our re-mortgage is sorted...
>> 
>> <flicks open diary>
>> 
>> ...and when is that expected to be?
>
>A few weeks, hopefully.

Good oh

>I want a track-bike. Really. Really, really, really. And yours sounds 
>like an absolute bargain. 

I know I'm biased, but I really think it is.

>It still depends on how the financial 
>situation looks when the finances are sorted, so don't hold your breath.

Oh, sure.
-- 
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Champ wrote:

> On 21 Aug 2008 12:07:16 GMT, "CT"  wrote:
> > 
> > Pah!  This is leaning:
> > http://nsd.dyndns.org/MC/1152x864_ruggia.jpg
> 
> heh.  I remember that photo from PB, a decade and a half ago.  From
> Donington, IIRC.  But:
> 
> 1.  I'm not Jean Phillipe Ruggia
> 2.  Nobody leans that far on road circuits
> 3.  It was the first photo I could find with a quick google.
> 
> If it makes you feel better, you may regard that as a bite.

heh. If it makes *you* feel better, I *really* wasn't fishing.  

Hang on - that'll only make you feel worse, won't it?

Anyway, it was just an excuse to post a link to that photo, which I too
remember from when it was first published, and has been posted on here
before IIRC.

-- 
Chris

CT wrote:

> Champ wrote:
> 
> > errm,  yes, it leans. Hang on <googles> - here's some evidence
> > http://www.iomguide.com/races/database/rider-photo.php?photo=14358
> 
> Pah!  This is leaning:
> http://nsd.dyndns.org/MC/1152x864_ruggia.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/78131584@N00/1265883117/in/photostream/

Not bad for a 21 yr old burd on Diablo Strada sports touring tyres

-- 
Lozzo

Champ wrote:
> On 21 Aug 2008 12:07:16 GMT, "CT"  wrote:
> 
>> Champ wrote:
>> 
>>> errm,  yes, it leans. Hang on <googles> - here's some evidence
>>> http://www.iomguide.com/races/database/rider-photo.php?photo=14358
>> 
>> Pah!  This is leaning:
>> http://nsd.dyndns.org/MC/1152x864_ruggia.jpg
> 
> heh.  I remember that photo from PB, a decade and a half ago.  From
> Donington, IIRC.  But:
> 
> 1.  I'm not Jean Phillipe Ruggia
> 2.  Nobody leans that far on road circuits
> 3.  It was the first photo I could find with a quick google.
> 
> If it makes you feel better, you may regard that as a bite.

"Without marshalls, no-one would stop for lunch."

zymu...@technologist.com wrote:

> On Aug 19, 10:13�am, Champ  wrote:
> > On Aug 19, 11:09 am, "Lozzo"  wrote:
> >
> > >http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
> >
> > > ws
> >
> > > I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
> >
> > <plaintive>
> >
> > My GSX-R 600 K2 is still for sale.
>
> So is My ZX12-R, my VTR1000, my CCM R30 and the black CB250N
>
> Are there any takers in the current "climate" ? ;)

Woo Hoo !! CCM sold to a nice gentleman in West Kent.

I are a happy bunny. Another month's mortgage and expenses covered.

P.

"Lozzo"  wrote in message 
news:6gvgueFhr118U1@mid.individual.net...
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/hondaukracing
>
> ws
>
> I rather fancy the two at the bottom of the page
>

The NR750 went for £48,100 !!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170251179543

However, looking at the winning bidders previous history I wonder if he 
realised it's not a model and price is in GBP not Yen.


-- 
Dave
ex Motorcycle Maintenance Workshop
http://tinyurl.com/4mhaw