On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:57 +0100, Bear 
wrote:
 
>In article , ogden 
>says...
>> Lozzo wrote:
>> > Bear wrote:
>> >  
>> > > They weren't powerful enough to be the absolute killer road machine 
>> > > though ... hence the rash of 7/11s at the time.  Remember them?  I
>> > > used to love those - some chap called Hag used to throw them
>> > > together, complete with hoover tubes.
>> > 
>> > Hag Hughes, best mate of Jason Emmet who is Sean's brother. Jason
>> > turned out to be quite a tidy club racer too. Hag and Jay had their
>> > identical black and white 250LCs featured in the back page of PB when
>> > they were teenagers.
>> 
>> Both used to write for, and race on behalf of, FB in its heyday, iirc.
>
>You do RC, although in actuality what used to happen was that fast 
>riders would ride the bikes, then get "debriefed" by writers - very few 
>people can ride a bike brilliantly *and* write well too.

But this is PB we're talking about - years since I read it, but it
always looked like someone had taken a rider's comments verbatim and
then gone through a reverse grammar and spell checking process. 

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Ace wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:57 +0100, Bear 
> wrote:
>  
> >In article , ogden 
> >says...
> >> Lozzo wrote:
> >> > Bear wrote:
> >> >  
> >> > > They weren't powerful enough to be the absolute killer road machine 
> >> > > though ... hence the rash of 7/11s at the time.  Remember them?  I
> >> > > used to love those - some chap called Hag used to throw them
> >> > > together, complete with hoover tubes.
> >> > 
> >> > Hag Hughes, best mate of Jason Emmet who is Sean's brother. Jason
> >> > turned out to be quite a tidy club racer too. Hag and Jay had their
> >> > identical black and white 250LCs featured in the back page of PB when
> >> > they were teenagers.
> >> 
> >> Both used to write for, and race on behalf of, FB in its heyday, iirc.
> >
> >You do RC, although in actuality what used to happen was that fast 
> >riders would ride the bikes, then get "debriefed" by writers - very few 
> >people can ride a bike brilliantly *and* write well too.
> 
> But this is PB we're talking about

No we're not.

-- 
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:05:19 +0100, ogden  wrote:
 
>Ace wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:57 +0100, Bear 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> >In article , ogden 
>> >says...
>> >> Lozzo wrote:
>> >> > Bear wrote:
>> >> >  
>> >> > > They weren't powerful enough to be the absolute killer road machine 
>> >> > > though ... hence the rash of 7/11s at the time.  Remember them?  I
>> >> > > used to love those - some chap called Hag used to throw them
>> >> > > together, complete with hoover tubes.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Hag Hughes, best mate of Jason Emmet who is Sean's brother. Jason
>> >> > turned out to be quite a tidy club racer too. Hag and Jay had their
>> >> > identical black and white 250LCs featured in the back page of PB when
>> >> > they were teenagers.
>> >> 
>> >> Both used to write for, and race on behalf of, FB in its heyday, iirc.
>> >
>> >You do RC, although in actuality what used to happen was that fast 
>> >riders would ride the bikes, then get "debriefed" by writers - very few 
>> >people can ride a bike brilliantly *and* write well too.
>> 
>> But this is PB we're talking about
>
>No we're not.

FB, PB, what's the difference? 

In the font I'm seeing this in, very little actually.

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Ace wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:05:19 +0100, ogden  wrote:
>  
> >Ace wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:32:57 +0100, Bear 
> >> wrote:
> >>  
> >> >In article , ogden 
> >> >says...
> >> >> Lozzo wrote:
> >> >> > Bear wrote:
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > > They weren't powerful enough to be the absolute killer road machine 
> >> >> > > though ... hence the rash of 7/11s at the time.  Remember them?  I
> >> >> > > used to love those - some chap called Hag used to throw them
> >> >> > > together, complete with hoover tubes.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Hag Hughes, best mate of Jason Emmet who is Sean's brother. Jason
> >> >> > turned out to be quite a tidy club racer too. Hag and Jay had their
> >> >> > identical black and white 250LCs featured in the back page of PB when
> >> >> > they were teenagers.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Both used to write for, and race on behalf of, FB in its heyday, iirc.
> >> >
> >> >You do RC, although in actuality what used to happen was that fast 
> >> >riders would ride the bikes, then get "debriefed" by writers - very few 
> >> >people can ride a bike brilliantly *and* write well too.
> >> 
> >> But this is PB we're talking about
> >
> >No we're not.
> 
> FB, PB, what's the difference? 

At the time, not a lot - PB was more street-focussed, FB had more of a 
racing bias, but they were fairly similar. While PB would have yet 
another Harris-framed road bike, FB had a classic article where they 
took Sean Emmet's Harris YZR500 out for a spin on the road.

I was working in a newsagents at the time, so spent my Saturday 
mornings reading PB, FB, UMG and anything else that looked more 
interesting than bunging stuff on shelves. I think it was UMG, anyway - 
small A5 sized thing that featured mini reviews of every bike around 
and was rammed with the kind of anecdotes Pip churns out.

-- 
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

ogden wrote:

> I think it was UMG, anyway - 
> small A5 sized thing that featured mini reviews of every bike around 
> and was rammed with the kind of anecdotes Pip churns out.

I used to get UMG [1].  I didn't like the other A5 mag, UBG, as that was
a bit wanky but they were broadly the same.


[1]  Still have a stack of them.

-- 
Simon