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date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100,    group: uk.rec.motorcaravans        back       
Liesure batteries   
Hi,
My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
several occassions..
Have I damaged the cells????


I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
Are there any other type of battery I should consider.

Many thanks
Peter
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

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date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

For better visability
Fit Osram Silver Star Headlamp Bulbs
50% Brighter beam, 20m Longer beam

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/motor-essentials
www.motoressentials.co.uk
date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100, ":Jerry:"
<INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>
>"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
>news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
>> on
>> several occassions..
>> Have I damaged the cells????
>>
>>
>> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>>
>
>It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
>battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
>be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
>deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
>and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
>batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
>still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
>it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries... 
>


Hi,
Many thanks for your comments.
I have now ordered a pair of 100Ar AGM batteries, which can even be
mounted on thier side.
These can be safely discharged by 70%, but have a very low discharge
when not on load. Therefore I will diconnect them when we are in
Australia for a couple of months.

Peter
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:57:48 +0100   author:   Peter & Andrea

Re: Liesure batteries   
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:33:35 +0100, Peter & Andrea
 wrote:

>Hi,
>My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
>much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
>I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
>volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low on
>several occassions..
>Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
>I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
>Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
>Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>
>Many thanks
>Peter


Take a look at AGM (Absorptive Glass Micro-Fibre) batteries. They are
fully sealed life expectancy of 10 years, designed for deep cycle use
and engine cranking. Very low natural loss so should withstand being
left without charging for months, charge quicker than a Gel battery
cost about the same (110ahr about £110).

For info take a look here http://www.mpoweruk.com/leadacid.htm

and a look at ebay item 130126695019

Lenny

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date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:43:05 +0100   author:   Lenny

Re: Liesure batteries   
"Peter & Andrea"  wrote in message 
news:nv7g73pt2k71rpagj33sf1tcm4vtechitv@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> My motorhome has 2 85 Ah lead/acid batteries that don't seem to hold
> much of a charge. They are only 18 months old.
> I've read recently that if the voltage is allowed to drop below 10.5
> volts the cells can be damaged, I suspect the voltage has been low 
> on
> several occassions..
> Have I damaged the cells????
>
>
> I am considering putting in 2 110 Ah batteries.
> Do gell batteries suffer the same if discharged too much??
> Are there any other type of battery I should consider.
>

It's more important what use the batteries get, as long as your aux' 
battery is a true 'leisure' type (the vehicle battery still needs to 
be a vehicle type battery capable of high cranking currents), semi 
deep cycling is not such a problem - what kills batteries is standing 
and having no cycling at all, this is what used to kill lawn-mower 
batteries when they used to be left sitting in the shed and what can 
still kill a battery when a motorcaravan is laid-up over winter. IOW, 
it's just as easy to kill 110Ah batteries as it is 85Ah batteries...
date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:07:08 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID