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date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:13:51 +0100,    group: uk.rec.fishing.sea        back       
Line question   
Hi All

I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

Thanks

Glenn
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:13:51 +0100   author:   Glenn Clark

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

Re: Line question   
In article <463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Glenn Clark
<URL:mailto:glenn.clark@NOSPAM.btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great

If you are new to fishing buy the cheapest line in the shop.  You are
going to generate impressive tangles and ruin some line as you learn so 
forget high-tech lines until you can get some use out of them.

Later you -might- decide to specialise in some way that requires maximum
performance from the line but in my experience the people who catch most of
the better fish don't know what brand of line or hook they're using.  Many
sucessful anglers know the brand of rod they use, at least, they do until
the logo rubs off the butt secton.  Almost all know which brand of reel they
have.

In general: if an angler spouts brand names you can assume he catches too
few fish to talk about...

By 'type of trace' I presume you're asking about the design of the end
tackle rather than the material it's made from.  Keep it as simple as
possible. For the first few trips it is more important that you learn to use
simple tackle well.

Learn to keep your eyes open - usually you will see signs of fish - when you
do, decide how best to get a bait to them - pretty soon you will be
designing your own end-tackle to fit the situation on the water.  When you
get home you can look up how others have addressed the same situations and
maybe adapt their techniques to your own problems.

Once you have seen and understood the problem you will begin to use end
tackle intelligently.  If you adopt whatever gimmicky 'rig' is currently
fashionable without thinking it through you will waste tackle and catch
little.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:23:14 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Line question   
"Glenn Clark"  wrote in message 
news:463af94f$0$21846$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hi All
>
> I am new to fishing and was wondering how you decide what type of line to 
> use and what type of trace to use. Any advise would be great
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
Have you an idea where you are likely to fish  and boat or shore or rocks or 
pier?
 A couple of thoughts spring to mind first is a a couple of sets of hokkai 
or mackeral feathers sooner or later they will come in handy. buy your line 
in cheaper bulk spools , because of tidal drag  try to get the better weight 
to diameter ratio rather than the cheapo thick springy lines,  Red Ice is 
decent stuff. Check  http://www.wirralseafishing.co.uk/ for some more info.
Derek
date: Fri, 04 May 2007 23:52:56 GMT   author:   Derek

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