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date: Sun, 27 May 2007 17:47:11 GMT,    group: uk.rec.fishing.game        back       
choice of rod weight and length   
Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
fishing in the UK?

I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
right size.


John Fox
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 17:47:11 GMT   author:   John Fox

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
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date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox 
 writes
>
>Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
>fishing in the UK?
>
>I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
>right size.
>
>
>John Fox

It depends on your ability to cast and arm strength.  Although it is the 
rod that does the work, heavier rods and line can be hard going on an 
all day session.

My recommendation for general Reservoir / put & take fisheries would be 
a 9' - 6"  #6/8  or 7/9 rod sued with a weight forward  # 8 line  in 
either case.

I suppose there are those who would say use a #7WF line with a #6/8 Rod 
but a WF 8 will perform better.


-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:43:47 +0100   author:   W. D. Grey

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"John Fox"  wrote in message 
news:zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
>
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.
>
>
> John Fox

As you are asking I am going to assume you are fairly new to this, I am in 
my second season as trainee water flogger.

I have tried various rods and line weights and as I am not as experienced at 
casting as one should be, I hope the following advice will save you a few 
bob or two.

I could not get on with a 10' #8 rod with #9 WF line, packed up after an 
hour. Then I got to grips with a 9'6" #7 rod with a #7 intermediate line, a 
much better outfit but I was still struggling, packing up after 2 hours.

Then I got hold of a 9' #6 rod, added a WF #7f line and I was in heaven, I 
could cast this outfit all day long without hardly an effort, my casting 
improved instantly. The 9' #6 rod is the best all round rod to buy IMO. It 
has plenty of power for casting and enough guts for getting to grips with 
the larger stillwater and reservoir trout, (if you happen to fluke one)and 
the beauty of this rod means you can also use it for river fishing as well, 
stick on a #6DT line and away you go.

To recap, the shorter the rod the easier it is to cast. I also got an 8'6" 
#5 rod and this proved to be just as easy to cast although it lacked a bit 
of distance compared to the 9' #6 rod with #7 line. Both these rods outcast 
the longer versions.

The best all round rod is a 9' #6 rod, this rod will work with a #6 DT, a #7 
WF and a #6 or probably #7 sinking line.
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
In article <zuj6i.2149$qD.1490@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, John Fox
<URL:mailto:john_e.fox@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> Any advice on the choice of rod weight and length for still water trout 
> fishing in the UK?
> 
> I am planning to get a 'posh' rod for my birthday and want to get the 
> right size.

Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
physique and the local waters. 

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:


>
>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you book)
>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for your
>physique and the local waters. 
>

Excellent advice there.
Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
fishing with sinking lines.

I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
specific rod.

The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
difference to how the rod feels when casting.

Cheers
Ian D
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:57:06 +0100   author:   Ian D

Re: choice of rod weight and length   
"Ian D"  wrote in message 
news:oiql53pi9ced8uhn23d9scauajgrklblap@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 00:03:40 +0100, Derek Moody
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Book a casting lesson with your local instructor and ask him (when you 
>>book)
>>to provide a selection of rods and to suggest the best combination for 
>>your
>>physique and the local waters.
>>
>
> Excellent advice there.
> Personally for bank fishing I'd never exceed 9'6" for rod length, and
> a maximum #7 for all round performance - a #6 or even a #5 is most
> often perfectly adequate, but can feel a bit overloaded if you do much
> fishing with sinking lines.
>
> I'd also never recommend using a #8 weight line with a #7 rod as a
> matter of course. Some rods could probably benefit, but as often as
> not I'd go the other way and 'underline' the rod. It's imperative to
> test out all the possible combinations before settling on one
> particular line rating as standard for your style of casting and that
> specific rod.
>
> The type of line used can have a bearing on this as well - I'm
> referring to WF lines and not getting into the WF versus DT argument.
> The length of the head and the various tapers can make quite a
> difference to how the rod feels when casting.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D
And more good advice here also, It is best to fish as light as you can if 
you can, go as low as you dare in fly line sizes #, catch more fish.

As a foot note I would say avoid sinking lines when starting off, in fact I 
would avoid them full stop, I have not found a stillwater deep enough to 
justify using one. Its much easier and far better to use a sink tip line to 
get the same or even better presentation and you can grease it to float if 
the trout start to come on the surface. Dual purpose ;)
If you want to fish deeper using a floating line there are plenty of 
weighted leaders on the market, or just use a heavier fly, goldheads for eg. 
sorted.
date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:43:33 +0100   author:   Niteawk

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