I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for 
pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.  The amount of large bream I 
have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
kept in keepnets was horrendous.  I cannot remember the last time I used a 
keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
on using them.

MC

In article , MC
<URL:mailto:incog_mail@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
> anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for
> pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.

On the one hand there are several shoaling species which will quickly move
off if fish are released close to the feeding shoal.  If they're given time
in a net to calm down they don't take the others with them when released -
but it's hard to release fish in order as you add others to the net.  I
suppose two or three nets might be used together in some sort of rota...
 - and some fish really do have a better recovery rate if kept in a
carefully set net.

On the other hand the fashion for seat-box based fishing discourages roving
and makes even releasing a little way along the bank difficult.

Then there's the undeniable appeal of a net of fish for pike - there's
no better attractor for predators.

>                                                The amount of large bream I 
> have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
> kept in keepnets was horrendous.

It's unusual for general pleasure anglers to catch many large bream - how
many are you talking about and what sort of damage?

>                                   I cannot remember the last time I used a 
> keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
> on using them.

I last used one back in the winter and I shall do so again when appropriate.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

Is it not down to the angler and not the use of nets. I used to use keep 
nets a lot for all sorts except pike and carp and I have never had a damaged 
fish even with large catches. I release in the water so the fish are not 
crushed when lifted on the bank which I had to admit a lot of occasional 
anglers do not seem to do so maybe promoting the proper use of the kit is 
more important.

Having come back to fishing I have noticed a lot more fishermen who care 
less about the environment with mess and line left at the bank, not only 
youngsters either.

Just a thought.

-- 
Gandalf

"MC"  wrote in message 
news:1186783352.7474.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
>anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for 
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.  The amount of large bream I 
>have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
>kept in keepnets was horrendous.  I cannot remember the last time I used a 
>keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
>on using them.
>
> MC
>

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Derek Moody, gave forth these words of wisdom:
>I last used one back in the winter and I shall do so again when 
>appropriate.
Bollocks Derek,
They do more harm than good :-(
Alec (on a high with his best ever chub yesterday - 5lb plus:-)
-- 
Alec Powell

(Waiting for the Great Leap Forwards)

Watlington
Oxfordshire
UK

"MC"  wrote in message 
news:1186783352.7474.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
>anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for 
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.  The amount of large bream I 
>have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
>kept in keepnets was horrendous.  I cannot remember the last time I used a 
>keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
>on using them.
>
> MC
When pleasure fishing I rarely use a keepnet ...... can't be bothered with 
the additional work of getting it perfectly dry before storage. However, one 
club I am a member of only allows keepnets during matches.

I do match fish and the rules set by various local clubs etc are varied and 
the most common rules are;

1. One net only but barble and carp are caught, weighed and released when 
appropriate (for example barble often need some recovery period).

2. Two nets, one for carp and one for silver fish.

1 is more common on genuine mixed fisheries when both carp and barble would 
be caught in very low numbers, particularly during a match when just a 
couple of each are _normally_ caught.

2 is more common on carp dominated match venues. The carp would normally be 
mid single figures (low double figure max). When they reach double figures 
the owners normally transfer the fish to their specimen lakes where keep 
nets are not allowed. Even so some owners still apply a maximum number of 
carp per net for their match lakes (around 10) when they have to be weighed 
and released.

Whilst the foregoing are the rules for the Clubs and other Venues I commonly 
use in Suffolk they do not reflect my views ........ Imo there are some good 
points and bad points in all the different rules used. In passing not only 
regarding keepnets but also rules that apply to baits, landing nets, weigh 
slings, unhooking mats, hooks, line, braid, feeders, rigs, night fishing, 
day fishing, membership reductions etc etc.

Around my area I think everyone tries their best though and they all provide 
excellent fishing for all types of anglers, and during the week you can have 
a venue pretty much to yourself.

Richard

In message , MC 
 writes

>I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.

Which bit of pleasure fishing /do/ you consider to be necessary? Used 
properly a keepnet does no harm, certainly when compared to catching the 
fish in the first place.

-- 
Steve Walker

In article , MC
<URL:mailto:incog_mail@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
> anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for
> pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.

On the one hand there are several shoaling species which will quickly move
off if fish are released close to the feeding shoal.  If they're given time
in a net to calm down they don't take the others with them when released -
but it's hard to release fish in order as you add others to the net.  I
suppose two or three nets might be used together in some sort of rota...
 - and some fish really do have a better recovery rate if kept in a
carefully set net.

On the other hand the fashion for seat-box based fishing discourages roving
and makes even releasing a little way along the bank difficult.

Then there's the undeniable appeal of a net of fish for pike - there's
no better attractor for predators.

>                                                The amount of large bream I 
> have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
> kept in keepnets was horrendous.

It's unusual for general pleasure anglers to catch many large bream - how
many are you talking about and what sort of damage?

>                                   I cannot remember the last time I used a 
> keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
> on using them.

I last used one back in the winter and I shall do so again when appropriate.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

Is it not down to the angler and not the use of nets. I used to use keep 
nets a lot for all sorts except pike and carp and I have never had a damaged 
fish even with large catches. I release in the water so the fish are not 
crushed when lifted on the bank which I had to admit a lot of occasional 
anglers do not seem to do so maybe promoting the proper use of the kit is 
more important.

Having come back to fishing I have noticed a lot more fishermen who care 
less about the environment with mess and line left at the bank, not only 
youngsters either.

Just a thought.

-- 
Gandalf

"MC"  wrote in message 
news:1186783352.7474.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
>anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for 
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.  The amount of large bream I 
>have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
>kept in keepnets was horrendous.  I cannot remember the last time I used a 
>keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
>on using them.
>
> MC
>

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Derek Moody, gave forth these words of wisdom:
>I last used one back in the winter and I shall do so again when 
>appropriate.
Bollocks Derek,
They do more harm than good :-(
Alec (on a high with his best ever chub yesterday - 5lb plus:-)
-- 
Alec Powell

(Waiting for the Great Leap Forwards)

Watlington
Oxfordshire
UK

"MC"  wrote in message 
news:1186783352.7474.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
>anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for 
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.  The amount of large bream I 
>have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
>kept in keepnets was horrendous.  I cannot remember the last time I used a 
>keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
>on using them.
>
> MC
When pleasure fishing I rarely use a keepnet ...... can't be bothered with 
the additional work of getting it perfectly dry before storage. However, one 
club I am a member of only allows keepnets during matches.

I do match fish and the rules set by various local clubs etc are varied and 
the most common rules are;

1. One net only but barble and carp are caught, weighed and released when 
appropriate (for example barble often need some recovery period).

2. Two nets, one for carp and one for silver fish.

1 is more common on genuine mixed fisheries when both carp and barble would 
be caught in very low numbers, particularly during a match when just a 
couple of each are _normally_ caught.

2 is more common on carp dominated match venues. The carp would normally be 
mid single figures (low double figure max). When they reach double figures 
the owners normally transfer the fish to their specimen lakes where keep 
nets are not allowed. Even so some owners still apply a maximum number of 
carp per net for their match lakes (around 10) when they have to be weighed 
and released.

Whilst the foregoing are the rules for the Clubs and other Venues I commonly 
use in Suffolk they do not reflect my views ........ Imo there are some good 
points and bad points in all the different rules used. In passing not only 
regarding keepnets but also rules that apply to baits, landing nets, weigh 
slings, unhooking mats, hooks, line, braid, feeders, rigs, night fishing, 
day fishing, membership reductions etc etc.

Around my area I think everyone tries their best though and they all provide 
excellent fishing for all types of anglers, and during the week you can have 
a venue pretty much to yourself.

Richard

In message , MC 
 writes

>I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.

Which bit of pleasure fishing /do/ you consider to be necessary? Used 
properly a keepnet does no harm, certainly when compared to catching the 
fish in the first place.

-- 
Steve Walker

In article , MC
<URL:mailto:incog_mail@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
> anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for
> pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.

On the one hand there are several shoaling species which will quickly move
off if fish are released close to the feeding shoal.  If they're given time
in a net to calm down they don't take the others with them when released -
but it's hard to release fish in order as you add others to the net.  I
suppose two or three nets might be used together in some sort of rota...
 - and some fish really do have a better recovery rate if kept in a
carefully set net.

On the other hand the fashion for seat-box based fishing discourages roving
and makes even releasing a little way along the bank difficult.

Then there's the undeniable appeal of a net of fish for pike - there's
no better attractor for predators.

>                                                The amount of large bream I 
> have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
> kept in keepnets was horrendous.

It's unusual for general pleasure anglers to catch many large bream - how
many are you talking about and what sort of damage?

>                                   I cannot remember the last time I used a 
> keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
> on using them.

I last used one back in the winter and I shall do so again when appropriate.

Cheerio,

-- 
  Fishing:  http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
  Writing:  http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/ 
  uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
            http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

Is it not down to the angler and not the use of nets. I used to use keep 
nets a lot for all sorts except pike and carp and I have never had a damaged 
fish even with large catches. I release in the water so the fish are not 
crushed when lifted on the bank which I had to admit a lot of occasional 
anglers do not seem to do so maybe promoting the proper use of the kit is 
more important.

Having come back to fishing I have noticed a lot more fishermen who care 
less about the environment with mess and line left at the bank, not only 
youngsters either.

Just a thought.

-- 
Gandalf

"MC"  wrote in message 
news:1186783352.7474.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
>anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for 
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.  The amount of large bream I 
>have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
>kept in keepnets was horrendous.  I cannot remember the last time I used a 
>keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
>on using them.
>
> MC
>

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Derek Moody, gave forth these words of wisdom:
>I last used one back in the winter and I shall do so again when 
>appropriate.
Bollocks Derek,
They do more harm than good :-(
Alec (on a high with his best ever chub yesterday - 5lb plus:-)
-- 
Alec Powell

(Waiting for the Great Leap Forwards)

Watlington
Oxfordshire
UK

"MC"  wrote in message 
news:1186783352.7474.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>I am still supprised at the amount of keepnets I see in use for pleasure 
>anglers.  I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for 
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.  The amount of large bream I 
>have seen, during my recent 10 day visit to the Broads, damaged by being 
>kept in keepnets was horrendous.  I cannot remember the last time I used a 
>keepnet and I do not use one these days so why do some people still insist 
>on using them.
>
> MC
When pleasure fishing I rarely use a keepnet ...... can't be bothered with 
the additional work of getting it perfectly dry before storage. However, one 
club I am a member of only allows keepnets during matches.

I do match fish and the rules set by various local clubs etc are varied and 
the most common rules are;

1. One net only but barble and carp are caught, weighed and released when 
appropriate (for example barble often need some recovery period).

2. Two nets, one for carp and one for silver fish.

1 is more common on genuine mixed fisheries when both carp and barble would 
be caught in very low numbers, particularly during a match when just a 
couple of each are _normally_ caught.

2 is more common on carp dominated match venues. The carp would normally be 
mid single figures (low double figure max). When they reach double figures 
the owners normally transfer the fish to their specimen lakes where keep 
nets are not allowed. Even so some owners still apply a maximum number of 
carp per net for their match lakes (around 10) when they have to be weighed 
and released.

Whilst the foregoing are the rules for the Clubs and other Venues I commonly 
use in Suffolk they do not reflect my views ........ Imo there are some good 
points and bad points in all the different rules used. In passing not only 
regarding keepnets but also rules that apply to baits, landing nets, weigh 
slings, unhooking mats, hooks, line, braid, feeders, rigs, night fishing, 
day fishing, membership reductions etc etc.

Around my area I think everyone tries their best though and they all provide 
excellent fishing for all types of anglers, and during the week you can have 
a venue pretty much to yourself.

Richard

In message , MC 
 writes

>I understand the use of keepnets for match fishing but for
>pleasure fishing just seems unecessary to me.

Which bit of pleasure fishing /do/ you consider to be necessary? Used 
properly a keepnet does no harm, certainly when compared to catching the 
fish in the first place.

-- 
Steve Walker