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date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.rec.driving        back       
Trailer Tents   
Greetings from the States.

 I was doing research into recreation vehicles, when I came across UK
Ebay listings for trailer tents. I thought this might be the answer to
my needs, but discovered they are not available in USA.

 The typical camping trailer here is expensive and large while being
towed, but not as large as a UK trailer tent when set up. The trailers
here nearly all require a large truck to pull, where you guys have
something that can be pulled by a small car.

 I bought up this subject in another newsgroup, rec.outdoors.rv-
travel, and the reaction was pretty negative, The complaints were they
could not hold up to a bear attack (?) and that they were too small
for the average American and his need for large toys. This last
objection I disagree with, I think they could become popular
especially with rising gas prices.

 So, if I could get some feedback from some of you who have used them
or have had experience with them or have feelings  about them one way
or the other, I'd like to hear about them. Presently it seems that it
would be a good idea to import them here, especially for the prices
that being fetched. I saw some of theses trailer tents going for as
little as 250 pounds. Go to E-bay in the US and see what pop up
trailes go for here.

Cheers
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Trailer Tents   
In article <5982e3f6-4e27-44ea-a6fa-4228e2b55047
@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,  says...
>  Greetings from the States.
> 
>  I was doing research into recreation vehicles, when I came across UK
> Ebay listings for trailer tents. I thought this might be the answer to
> my needs, but discovered they are not available in USA.
> 
>  The typical camping trailer here is expensive and large while being
> towed, but not as large as a UK trailer tent when set up. The trailers
> here nearly all require a large truck to pull, where you guys have
> something that can be pulled by a small car.
> 
Our "Camping Trailers" can too. We call them "Caravans".


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:54:46 +0100   author:   Conor

Re: Trailer Tents   
Conor wrote:
> In article <5982e3f6-4e27-44ea-a6fa-4228e2b55047
> @n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,  says...
>>  Greetings from the States.
>>
>>  I was doing research into recreation vehicles, when I came across UK
>> Ebay listings for trailer tents. I thought this might be the answer
>> to my needs, but discovered they are not available in USA.
>>
>>  The typical camping trailer here is expensive and large while being
>> towed, but not as large as a UK trailer tent when set up. The
>> trailers here nearly all require a large truck to pull, where you
>> guys have something that can be pulled by a small car.
>>
> Our "Camping Trailers" can too. We call them "Caravans".

No Conor, they're two different things.
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:49:04 +0100   author:   Brimstone

Re: Trailer Tents   
In article , Brimstone says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article <5982e3f6-4e27-44ea-a6fa-4228e2b55047
> > @n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,  says...
> >>  Greetings from the States.
> >>
> >>  I was doing research into recreation vehicles, when I came across UK
> >> Ebay listings for trailer tents. I thought this might be the answer
> >> to my needs, but discovered they are not available in USA.
> >>
> >>  The typical camping trailer here is expensive and large while being
> >> towed, but not as large as a UK trailer tent when set up. The
> >> trailers here nearly all require a large truck to pull, where you
> >> guys have something that can be pulled by a small car.
> >>
> > Our "Camping Trailers" can too. We call them "Caravans".
> 
> No Conor, they're two different things. 
> 
I'm thinking of those big fuck off things that use a fifth wheel on the 
flatbed of a pickup.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:31:46 +0100   author:   Conor

Re: Trailer Tents   
On Aug 11, 1:31 pm, Conor  wrote:
> In article , Brimstone says...
>
>
>
> > Conor wrote:
> > > In article <5982e3f6-4e27-44ea-a6fa-4228e2b55047
> > > @n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,  says...
> > >>  Greetings from the States.
>
> > >>  I was doing research into recreation vehicles, when I came across UK
> > >> Ebay listings for trailer tents. I thought this might be the answer
> > >> to my needs, but discovered they are not available in USA.
>
> > >>  The typical camping trailer here is expensive and large while being
> > >> towed, but not as large as a UK trailer tent when set up. The
> > >> trailers here nearly all require a large truck to pull, where you
> > >> guys have something that can be pulled by a small car.
>
> > > Our "Camping Trailers" can too. We call them "Caravans".
>
> > No Conor, they're two different things.
>
> I'm thinking of those big fuck off things that use a fifth wheel on the
> flatbed of a pickup.
>
> --
> Conor
>
> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> looking good either. - Scott Adams- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

This is what Americans use for camping:  http://portland.craigslist.org/rvsFigure 2 bucks equal 1 quid.
 Ta
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:18:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Trailer Tents   
In article <d1102f2c-1e5b-4f50-8366-3864119384d6
@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,  says...

> 
> This is what Americans use for camping:  http://portland.craigslist.org/rvs/
> Figure 2 bucks equal 1 quid.

So either trucker wannabees or a caravan bolted onto a pickup. Fugly.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:29:30 +0100   author:   Conor

Re: Trailer Tents   
Of course, there are Fibreglass trailers. I have lovely (antique now, 1975) 
Boler. 13 feet long, sleeps four (well, at least one has to be a very small 
child), propane range, 3-way fridge, propane furnace, 2 way water with sink, 
and some (not mine) have the shower&toilet conversion instead of a 
cupboard...and the lovely thing is that it is SOLID, quiet, and weighs half 
what a "bear"-bones pop-up tent trailer does...Can be towed behind a SMALL 
car as it weights just about 700 pounds and is full sized wheels/tires. Very 
aerodynamic. I drove it home 1500 km at 110 kph behind a clapped out 
300,000km+++ automatic Corolla 1600, and barely knew it was there. Mileage 
only dropped by 4 mpg too. Only uses a Class 1 hitch. Google Boler, and find 
out about the Scamp, Trillium, etc etc etc. There was a very similar thing 
(Concord??) that was made in New Zealand.
cheers!
Jim B PEI

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6gbp9sFf5qplU1@mid.individual.net...
> In article <d1102f2c-1e5b-4f50-8366-3864119384d6
> @b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,  says...
>
>>
>> This is what Americans use for camping: 
>> http://portland.craigslist.org/rvs/
>> Figure 2 bucks equal 1 quid.
>
> So either trucker wannabees or a caravan bolted onto a pickup. Fugly.
>
> -- 
> Conor
>
> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:21:12 GMT   author:   George Mills

Re: Trailer Tents   
On Aug 11, 3:21 pm, "George Mills"  wrote:
> Of course, there are Fibreglass trailers. I have lovely (antique now, 1975)
> Boler. 13 feet long, sleeps four (well, at least one has to be a very small
> child), propane range, 3-way fridge, propane furnace, 2 way water with sink,
> and some (not mine) have the shower&toilet conversion instead of a
> cupboard...and the lovely thing is that it is SOLID, quiet, and weighs half
> what a "bear"-bones pop-up tent trailer does...Can be towed behind a SMALL
> car as it weights just about 700 pounds and is full sized wheels/tires. Very
> aerodynamic. I drove it home 1500 km at 110 kph behind a clapped out
> 300,000km automatic Corolla 1600, and barely knew it was there. Mileage
> only dropped by 4 mpg too. Only uses a Class 1 hitch. Google Boler, and find
> out about the Scamp, Trillium, etc etc etc. There was a very similar thing
> (Concord??) that was made in New Zealand.
> cheers!
> Jim B PEI
>
> "Conor"  wrote in message
>
> news:6gbp9sFf5qplU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > In article <d1102f2c-1e5b-4f50-8366-3864119384d6
> > @b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,  says...
>
> >> This is what Americans use for camping:
> >>http://portland.craigslist.org/rvs/
> >> Figure 2 bucks equal 1 quid.
>
> > So either trucker wannabees or a caravan bolted onto a pickup. Fugly.
>
> > --
> > Conor
>
> > I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> > looking good either. - Scott Adams- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

We have those, fiberglass trailers. I don't know about where you are,
but those things are expensive, even if they are thirty years old. If
you would like to see all the different kinds they are here:
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/    ...lots of pics.
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:34:54 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Trailer Tents   
On 2008-08-11, Wilma6116@gmail.com  wrote:
>  Greetings from the States.

Howdy.

> The complaints were they
> could not hold up to a bear attack (?)

And a Winnebago could? I think not.


-- 
          "Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
                 and presumptuous desire for a second one."
               [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]
date: 12 Aug 2008 09:08:18 GMT   author:   Huge lid

Re: Trailer Tents   
On 2008-08-11, George Mills  wrote:
> Of course, there are Fibreglass trailers. 

George, in the UK a trailer is this kind of thing;

http://www.ariadevelopment.co.uk/images/trailer%206.jpg

What you call a trailer, we call a caravan;

http://www.kilbybridgecaravans.co.uk/images/caravan.jpg

Not to be confused with a Dodge Caravan;

http://autoreview.belproject.com/media/1/20070831-2008-dodge-caravan-cargo-van.jpg

Which in the UK we call an MPV.

Same language, my arse. (ass)

(Oh, and please don't top post.)


-- 
          "Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
                 and presumptuous desire for a second one."
               [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]
date: 12 Aug 2008 09:11:47 GMT   author:   Huge lid

Re: Trailer Tents   
"Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g7rk4j$2lk$6@anubis.demon.co.uk...
> (Oh, and please don't top post.)

Okay, you anal freak   "nowhere.much.invalid" says lots. Thanks for the 
picture of the Daxara. (much wheezy laughter) Thanks, I but already have a 
utility trailer and a car dolly trailer as well as the Boler,  I think, 
however, if you read back, you might *just* notice that the subject is 
"trailer tents" I would think that even the more confused members of the 
populace might be hard pressed to consider putting up a pup tent inside a 
Daxara 197. Real novel approach, that. So, in the possibility that the 
original poster WAS talking about the aluminum pop-up tent trailers, (Have 
you ever heard of tent caravans? I haven't) I helpfully and politely opined 
that instead of a pop-up, which is nothing but an extremely heavy (about 
1,500 lbs++, or 650 kg++) canvas tent on wheels, with all the protection 
from the elements and "bears" that canvas/vinyl and net mosquito screening 
affords, what they might want instead is a Boler or similar fibreglass 
trailer/RV/caravan as discussed on a site like: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/ 
as it is lightweight (760 lbs) and can be towed economically behind even a 
100hp (or less) car.  After all, I wanted something that could be towed 
safely behind one of my old cars (Studebakers, Kaiser) with 100hp or so 
flatheads, no power steering or power brakes. Bolers (and the like only) 
require a Class 1 towbar/drawbar/hook/trailer hitch, is warm in cool 
weather, cool in hot weather, quiet and extremely strong--after all, they 
survive driving conditions that will literally crack open other RVs. Mine 
only cost me $6,000 Can fully restored (new wiring/electrics, 
fibreglass/fiberglass repainted/resprayed, new propane tanks/bottles etc), 
or about 3,000 Pounds, or about 3,800 Euros, or $5,800 US. Thirty years old, 
and it is much better deal than a new caravan.

"George, in the UK a trailer is this kind of thing;
http://www.ariadevelopment.co.uk/images/trailer%206.jpg
What you call a trailer, we call a caravan;
http://www.kilbybridgecaravans.co.uk/images/caravan.jpg
Not to be confused with a Dodge Caravan;
http://autoreview.belproject.com/media/1/20070831-2008-dodge-caravan-cargo-van.jpg
Which in the UK we call an MPV.
Same language, my arse. (ass)"

so said Huge, who in Canada and elsewhere we call a sad poxy wanker

Jim B PEI
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:06:14 GMT   author:   George Mills

Re: Trailer Tents   
"Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g7rju2$2lk$5@anubis.demon.co.uk...
> On 2008-08-11, Wilma6116@gmail.com  wrote:
>>  Greetings from the States.
>
> Howdy.
>
>> The complaints were they
>> could not hold up to a bear attack (?)
>
> And a Winnebago could? I think not.
>
....A Winnibago will stand up much longer to a bear attack than a 
vinyl/canvas/mosquito netting aluminum pop-up tent trailer! MUCH!
Even my 1977 Renault 5 successfully withstood a (small Black) bear attack, 
let alone the doe falling off a cliff in Cape Breton NS on top of it, and a 
Wiinibago has to be better built than that was.

Jim B PEI
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:15:35 GMT   author:   George Mills

Re: Trailer Tents   
I really like the fiberglass trailers, they do make sense. I also like
some of the old "canned ham" style trailers that have been restored.
There are two draw backs to these small trailers.

First, I worry about pulling one of these that are high profile, which
cuts down on gas milage and can be difficult to control in any wind.
Also I worry about the wear on my vehicle.

 Then, there is the problem of storage. These trailers don't fit in
most garages. If you leave them on the driveway, evryone knows when
you have gone on vacation. Somebody describing their trailer tent as
being stored in their garage, on its side. That I could get into.
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:55:12 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Trailer Tents   
On 2008-08-13, George Mills  wrote:
> "Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:g7rk4j$2lk$6@anubis.demon.co.uk...
>> (Oh, and please don't top post.)
>
> Okay, you anal freak  

yawn. 

*plonk*


-- 
          "Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
                 and presumptuous desire for a second one."
               [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]
date: 14 Aug 2008 08:49:54 GMT   author:   Huge lid

Re: Trailer Tents   
"Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g80rji$23p$1@anubis.demon.co.uk...
> On 2008-08-13, George Mills  wrote:
>> "Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:g7rk4j$2lk$6@anubis.demon.co.uk...
>>> (Oh, and please don't top post.)
>>
>> Okay, you anal freak
>
> yawn.
>
> *plonk*
>
*plonk* back at ya, loser
date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:06:09 GMT   author:   George Mills

Re: Trailer Tents   
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:06:09 +0100, George Mills  wrote:

>
> "Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g80rji$23p$1@anubis.demon.co.uk...
>> On 2008-08-13, George Mills  wrote:
>>> "Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:g7rk4j$2lk$6@anubis.demon.co.uk...
>>>> (Oh, and please don't top post.)
>>>
>>> Okay, you anal freak
>>
>> yawn.
>>
>> *plonk*
>>
> *plonk* back at ya, loser

Plonkers.

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"Well, more or less," I prompted.
"More, I guess," she answered sadly.
date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:26:42 +0100   author:   Peter Hucker

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