Three adults and a child have died in a crash on the main road from Perth to 
Inverness in the Highlands.

It is understood two cars burst into flames after the collision on the A9 at 
The Slochd, north of Aviemore.

Emergency services were called to the crash, which also left a woman and a 
child injured, at about 1515 BST.

Northern Constabulary said a woman died in a separate single-vehicle crash 
on the B9163 between Cononbridge and Culbokie on the Black Isle at 1600 BST.

The A9 crash occurred on a stretch of single carriageway close to the Slochd 
summit.

Police said two people were taken from the wreckage to Raigmore Hospital in 
Inverness.

The road remains closed and diversions are in place.

Drivers were advised to avoid the area if at all possible as long tailbacks 
were reported.

Parts of the A9 have a reputation as being amongst the most dangerous 
stretches of trunk road in the UK.

Last week, the deaths of Paul Anderson and his granddaughter Samantha Jane 
Carr led to renewed calls for the A9 to be made a dual carriageway to 
improve safety.

Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser said there was a "compelling case" to upgrade 
the road.

- - - - - - - -

I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9 
Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and 
behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs 
upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.

McK.

"McKev (yay!)"  wrote



. Its not the road that needs
> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.




Be fair Kev, when a man needs a deep-fried Mars bar, four cans of Tennent's 
Extra and a Tunnock's wafer, he is going to cut corners to get it.

Perhaps Holyrood should consider installing warning signs at these danger 
spots reading "Danger, Doctor Ahead".



-- 
Regards, Vince.

Long Distance Diary 30th May 2008-  Switzerland

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32454

In article <beLik.22788$Eo3.13992@newsfe14.ams2>,
   McKev \(yay!\)  wrote:
> I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9 
> Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and 
> behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs 
> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.

The amount of serious road accidents around the N and NE of Scotland -
often with no other vehicle involved - seem way above the national
average. Of course there are plenty of dodgy roads - like the A92 - which
is built almost like a motorway but has farm traffic crossing it. ;-(

-- 
*Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life *

    Dave Plowman     dave@davesound.co.uk     London SW 12

McKev (yay!) wrote:
> Three adults and a child have died in a crash on the main road from Perth to 
> Inverness in the Highlands.
> 
> It is understood two cars burst into flames after the collision on the A9 at 
> The Slochd, north of Aviemore.
> 
> Emergency services were called to the crash, which also left a woman and a 
> child injured, at about 1515 BST.
> 
> Northern Constabulary said a woman died in a separate single-vehicle crash 
> on the B9163 between Cononbridge and Culbokie on the Black Isle at 1600 BST.
> 
> The A9 crash occurred on a stretch of single carriageway close to the Slochd 
> summit.
> 
> Police said two people were taken from the wreckage to Raigmore Hospital in 
> Inverness.
> 
> The road remains closed and diversions are in place.
> 
> Drivers were advised to avoid the area if at all possible as long tailbacks 
> were reported.
> 
> Parts of the A9 have a reputation as being amongst the most dangerous 
> stretches of trunk road in the UK.
> 
> Last week, the deaths of Paul Anderson and his granddaughter Samantha Jane 
> Carr led to renewed calls for the A9 to be made a dual carriageway to 
> improve safety.
> 
> Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser said there was a "compelling case" to upgrade 
> the road.
> 
> - - - - - - - -
> 
> I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9 
> Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and 
> behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs 
> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
> 
> McK.
> 
> 
I've driven the length of the A9 recently, and it's true that the road 
is not inherently dangerous. However there are drivers of all types of 
vehicle that are using it. I didn't see any near misses, but there's a 
lot of potential.

I Also drove on the stretch of the A99 that is allegedly the most 
dangerous road in Scotland (A99), and that was Ok too.

"Knight Of The Road"  wrote in message 
news:cfudnTwH9_CvFhbV4p2dnAA@bt.com...
>
>
> "McKev (yay!)"  wrote
>
>
>
> . Its not the road that needs
>> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
>
>
>
>
> Be fair Kev, when a man needs a deep-fried Mars bar, four cans of 
> Tennent's Extra and a Tunnock's wafer, he is going to cut corners to get 
> it.
>
> Perhaps Holyrood should consider installing warning signs at these danger 
> spots reading "Danger, Doctor Ahead".
>
>

True but would you believe there are NO corners on the A9? (seriously)

McK.

"Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
news:4fc52002d0dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <beLik.22788$Eo3.13992@newsfe14.ams2>,
>   McKev \(yay!\)  wrote:
>> I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9
>> Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and
>> behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs
>> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
>
> The amount of serious road accidents around the N and NE of Scotland -
> often with no other vehicle involved - seem way above the national
> average. Of course there are plenty of dodgy roads - like the A92 - which
> is built almost like a motorway but has farm traffic crossing it. ;-(
>

The southern part of the A92 is near me and there isnt any farm traffic on 
it, but the sections that you refer to are all signed for farm traffic, 
crossing etc. Im beginning to wonder what there is left for the authoritys 
to do regarding safety - not much except more plod patrols.

Ive written (yet another) letter to The Scotsman about the A9 so we'll see 
if its published on monday - I doubt it because they havent published the 
last two. They seem to keep on blaming the road when its an innanimate 
object. Its a feckin joke now.

McK.

McKev (yay!) wrote:

> Ive written (yet another) letter to The Scotsman about the A9 so we'll see 
> if its published on monday - I doubt it because they havent published the 
> last two.

That's because you're a fucking arse.

Silk  wrote:

> McKev (yay!) wrote:
> 
> > Ive written (yet another) letter to The Scotsman about the A9 so we'll see
> > if its published on monday - I doubt it because they havent published the
> > last two.
> 
> That's because you're a fucking arse.

See, agreement has broken out again.

McKev (yay!) wrote:
> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
> news:4fc52002d0dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>> In article <beLik.22788$Eo3.13992@newsfe14.ams2>,
>>   McKev \(yay!\)  wrote:
>>> I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9
>>> Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and
>>> behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs
>>> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
>> The amount of serious road accidents around the N and NE of Scotland -
>> often with no other vehicle involved - seem way above the national
>> average. Of course there are plenty of dodgy roads - like the A92 - which
>> is built almost like a motorway but has farm traffic crossing it. ;-(
>>
> 
> The southern part of the A92 is near me and there isnt any farm traffic on 
> it, but the sections that you refer to are all signed for farm traffic, 
> crossing etc. Im beginning to wonder what there is left for the authoritys 
> to do regarding safety - not much except more plod patrols.
>

I have to agree. The A9 is actually a fine road: good visiblilty in 
places, a few bits of DC for easy overtakes. It's been a few years since 
my last trip up, and I think there had been a good few improvements to 
some of the more potentially dangerous junctions, and overall the only 
variable left was driver error.

> Ive written (yet another) letter to The Scotsman about the A9 so we'll see 
> if its published on monday - I doubt it because they havent published the 
> last two. They seem to keep on blaming the road when its an innanimate 
> object. Its a feckin joke now.

That's how it's done these days. Blame the road, the car, the lack of 
stability control. I suspect your letter won't get published.

"Chris Bartram"  wrote in message 
news:B%0jk.33700$E41.22449@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> McKev (yay!) wrote:
>> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
>> news:4fc52002d0dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>>> In article <beLik.22788$Eo3.13992@newsfe14.ams2>,
>>>   McKev \(yay!\)  wrote:
>>>> I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9
>>>> Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and
>>>> behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs
>>>> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
>>> The amount of serious road accidents around the N and NE of Scotland -
>>> often with no other vehicle involved - seem way above the national
>>> average. Of course there are plenty of dodgy roads - like the A92 - 
>>> which
>>> is built almost like a motorway but has farm traffic crossing it. ;-(
>>>
>>
>> The southern part of the A92 is near me and there isnt any farm traffic 
>> on it, but the sections that you refer to are all signed for farm 
>> traffic, crossing etc. Im beginning to wonder what there is left for the 
>> authoritys to do regarding safety - not much except more plod patrols.
>>
>
> I have to agree. The A9 is actually a fine road: good visiblilty in 
> places, a few bits of DC for easy overtakes. It's been a few years since 
> my last trip up, and I think there had been a good few improvements to 
> some of the more potentially dangerous junctions, and overall the only 
> variable left was driver error.
>
>> Ive written (yet another) letter to The Scotsman about the A9 so we'll 
>> see if its published on monday - I doubt it because they havent published 
>> the last two. They seem to keep on blaming the road when its an 
>> innanimate object. Its a feckin joke now.
>
> That's how it's done these days. Blame the road, the car, the lack of 
> stability control. I suspect your letter won't get published.

Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays 
Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D

McK.

On Jul 26, 10:27 pm, Chris Bartram 
wrote:
> McKev (yay!) wrote:
> > Three adults and a child have died in a crash on the main road from Perth to
> > Inverness in the Highlands.
>
> > It is understood two cars burst into flames after the collision on the A9 at
> > The Slochd, north of Aviemore.
>
> > Emergency services were called to the crash, which also left a woman and a
> > child injured, at about 1515 BST.
>
> > Northern Constabulary said a woman died in a separate single-vehicle crash
> > on the B9163 between Cononbridge and Culbokie on the Black Isle at 1600 BST.
>
> > The A9 crash occurred on a stretch of single carriageway close to the Slochd
> > summit.
>
> > Police said two people were taken from the wreckage to Raigmore Hospital in
> > Inverness.
>
> > The road remains closed and diversions are in place.
>
> > Drivers were advised to avoid the area if at all possible as long tailbacks
> > were reported.
>
> > Parts of the A9 have a reputation as being amongst the most dangerous
> > stretches of trunk road in the UK.
>
> > Last week, the deaths of Paul Anderson and his granddaughter Samantha Jane
> > Carr led to renewed calls for the A9 to be made a dual carriageway to
> > improve safety.
>
> > Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser said there was a "compelling case" to upgrade
> > the road.
>
> > - - - - - - - -
>
> > I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9
> > Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and
> > behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs
> > upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
>
> > McK.
>
> I've driven the length of the A9 recently, and it's true that the road
> is not inherently dangerous. However there are drivers of all types of
> vehicle that are using it. I didn't see any near misses, but there's a
> lot of potential.
>
> I Also drove on the stretch of the A99 that is allegedly the most
> dangerous road in Scotland (A99), and that was Ok too.- Hide quoted text > - Show quoted text -

The A9 could be improved to DC but when you get brain dead numpties
trying to propel their Ford Galaxy MPV's at 100mph to get past the
last truck  before the  SC  starts again then you better expect road
kill for the hawks and crows.

Nkosi

McKev (yay!) wrote:

> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays 
> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D

That means twice as many people have now read it.

In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
   Silk  wrote:
> > Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays 
> > Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D

> That means twice as many people have now read it.

Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.

-- 
*OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?

    Dave Plowman     dave@davesound.co.uk     London SW 12

Dave Plowman wrote:
> In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>    Silk  wrote:
>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays 
>>> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
> 
>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
> 
> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
> 

What's the English for "cra driver"?

"Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
news:4fc6990e33dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>   Silk  wrote:
>> > Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>> > Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>
>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>
> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>
Dear Sir,

Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth - Inverness 
road. Over the years there have been many calls from many quarters demanding 
that road be upgraded to dual carriageway. Despite the many of the visual 
improvements such as fluorescent surrounds to warning signs, improved road 
markings and lower speed limits on certain areas, yet there is still a high 
number of fatalities. As an LGV1 driver who regularly drives this stretch I 
witness incredibly reckless and irresponsible car driving by drivers who 
want to shave a few seconds off a long journey. These people have absolutely 
no regard for their own safety and that of others. There is only a certain 
amount of safety improvments that can be carried out on the road. the 
remaining improvements must be carried out by the road users.

Yours,
McKev

In article <g6nm83$d5i$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
   Silk  wrote:
> Dave Plowman wrote:
> > In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> >    Silk  wrote:
> >>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays 
> >>> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
> > 
> >> That means twice as many people have now read it.
> > 
> > Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
> > 

> What's the English for "cra driver"?

Fa spik tha? Or furry boots ya read it?

-- 
*I don't suffer from insanity -- I'm a carrier

    Dave Plowman     dave@davesound.co.uk     London SW 12

"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>> > Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>>> > Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D

>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.

>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.

> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth -
> Inverness road. Over the years there have been many calls from many
> quarters demanding that road be upgraded to dual carriageway. Despite
> the many of the visual improvements such as fluorescent surrounds to
> warning signs, improved road markings and lower speed limits on certain
> areas, yet there is still a high number of fatalities. As an LGV1 driver
> who regularly drives this stretch I witness incredibly reckless and
> irresponsible car driving by drivers who want to shave a few seconds off
> a long journey. These people have absolutely no regard for their own
> safety and that of others. There is only a certain amount of safety
> improvments that can be carried out on the road. the remaining
> improvements must be carried out by the road users.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sectionhome.aspx?sectionID=7074

I dunno about "pole position" - it's in the third rank of letters on 
their website.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/opinion/Reckless-
irresponsibility.4329384.jp

"Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
news:4fc69cb159dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <g6nm83$d5i$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>   Silk  wrote:
>> Dave Plowman wrote:
>> > In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>> >    Silk  wrote:
>> >>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>> >>> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>> >
>> >> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>> >
>> > Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>> >
>
>> What's the English for "cra driver"?
>
> Fa spik tha? Or furry boots ya read it?
>
> -- 
> *I don't suffer from insanity -- I'm a carrier
>
They did correct it in the printed article :)

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6f9707F9dbt8U7@mid.individual.net...
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>> > Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>>>> > Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>
>>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>
>>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>
>> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth -
>> Inverness road. Over the years there have been many calls from many
>> quarters demanding that road be upgraded to dual carriageway. Despite
>> the many of the visual improvements such as fluorescent surrounds to
>> warning signs, improved road markings and lower speed limits on certain
>> areas, yet there is still a high number of fatalities. As an LGV1 driver
>> who regularly drives this stretch I witness incredibly reckless and
>> irresponsible car driving by drivers who want to shave a few seconds off
>> a long journey. These people have absolutely no regard for their own
>> safety and that of others. There is only a certain amount of safety
>> improvments that can be carried out on the road. the remaining
>> improvements must be carried out by the road users.
>
> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sectionhome.aspx?sectionID=7074
>
> I dunno about "pole position" - it's in the third rank of letters on
> their website.
>

First in the printed edition.

"Nkosi"  wrote in message 
news:e5e6e976-9bd4-43e2-9e59-c927a9418d3d@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 26, 10:27 pm, Chris Bartram 
wrote:
> McKev (yay!) wrote:
> > Three adults and a child have died in a crash on the main road from 
> > Perth to
> > Inverness in the Highlands.
>
> > It is understood two cars burst into flames after the collision on the 
> > A9 at
> > The Slochd, north of Aviemore.
>
> > Emergency services were called to the crash, which also left a woman and 
> > a
> > child injured, at about 1515 BST.
>
> > Northern Constabulary said a woman died in a separate single-vehicle 
> > crash
> > on the B9163 between Cononbridge and Culbokie on the Black Isle at 1600 
> > BST.
>
> > The A9 crash occurred on a stretch of single carriageway close to the 
> > Slochd
> > summit.
>
> > Police said two people were taken from the wreckage to Raigmore Hospital 
> > in
> > Inverness.
>
> > The road remains closed and diversions are in place.
>
> > Drivers were advised to avoid the area if at all possible as long 
> > tailbacks
> > were reported.
>
> > Parts of the A9 have a reputation as being amongst the most dangerous
> > stretches of trunk road in the UK.
>
> > Last week, the deaths of Paul Anderson and his granddaughter Samantha 
> > Jane
> > Carr led to renewed calls for the A9 to be made a dual carriageway to
> > improve safety.
>
> > Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser said there was a "compelling case" to 
> > upgrade
> > the road.
>
> > - - - - - - - -
>
> > I've often written to The Scotsman newspapers letters page about the A9
> > Perth/I nverness. Not about the road per se but about the mentality and
> > behaviour of the cra drivers that use it. Its not the road that needs
> > upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
>
> > McK.
>
> I've driven the length of the A9 recently, and it's true that the road
> is not inherently dangerous. However there are drivers of all types of
> vehicle that are using it. I didn't see any near misses, but there's a
> lot of potential.
>
> I Also drove on the stretch of the A99 that is allegedly the most
> dangerous road in Scotland (A99), and that was Ok too.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The A9 could be improved to DC but when you get brain dead numpties
trying to propel their Ford Galaxy MPV's at 100mph to get past the
last truck  before the  SC  starts again then you better expect road
kill for the hawks and crows.

Precisely. Now try convonce the doo-gooders and polititians of that fact. 
The traffic plods and ambulance staff already know.

McK.

McKev (yay!)  wrote:

> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
> news:4fc6990e33dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> > In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> >   Silk  wrote:
> >> > Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
> >> > Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
> >
> >> That means twice as many people have now read it.
> >
> > Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
> >
> Dear Sir,
> 
> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth - Inverness

blah blah blah...

> remaining improvements must be carried out by the road users.

Can't be yours, not a single mention of "ethnics".

McKev (yay!) wrote:
> "Adrian"  wrote in message
> news:6f9707F9dbt8U7@mid.individual.net...
>> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding
>> much like they were saying:
>>
>>>>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in
>>>>>> todays Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>>
>>>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>>
>>>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>>
>>> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth -
>>> Inverness road. Over the years there have been many calls from many
>>> quarters demanding that road be upgraded to dual carriageway.
>>> Despite the many of the visual improvements such as fluorescent
>>> surrounds to warning signs, improved road markings and lower speed
>>> limits on certain areas, yet there is still a high number of
>>> fatalities. As an LGV1 driver who regularly drives this stretch I
>>> witness incredibly reckless and irresponsible car driving by
>>> drivers who want to shave a few seconds off a long journey. These
>>> people have absolutely no regard for their own safety and that of
>>> others. There is only a certain amount of safety improvments that
>>> can be carried out on the road. the remaining improvements must be
>>> carried out by the road users.
>>
>> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sectionhome.aspx?sectionID=7074
>>
>> I dunno about "pole position" - it's in the third rank of letters on
>> their website.
>>
>
> First in the printed edition.

Did it get the "star letter" accolade?

"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1ikux2b.5faf7rdtplriN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
> McKev (yay!)  wrote:
>
>> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message
>> news:4fc6990e33dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>> > In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>> >   Silk  wrote:
>> >> > Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>> >> > Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>> >
>> >> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>> >
>> > Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>> >
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth - 
>> Inverness
>
> blah blah blah...
>
>> remaining improvements must be carried out by the road users.
>
> Can't be yours, not a single mention of "ethnics".

Well theres not many non-white truckers but thats not really relevent to the 
A9...

"Brimstone"  wrote in message 
news:1PadnYB_iqOI7BLVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@bt.com...
> McKev (yay!) wrote:
>> "Adrian"  wrote in message
>> news:6f9707F9dbt8U7@mid.individual.net...
>>> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding
>>> much like they were saying:
>>>
>>>>>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in
>>>>>>> todays Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>>>
>>>>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>>>
>>>>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>>>
>>>> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth -
>>>> Inverness road. Over the years there have been many calls from many
>>>> quarters demanding that road be upgraded to dual carriageway.
>>>> Despite the many of the visual improvements such as fluorescent
>>>> surrounds to warning signs, improved road markings and lower speed
>>>> limits on certain areas, yet there is still a high number of
>>>> fatalities. As an LGV1 driver who regularly drives this stretch I
>>>> witness incredibly reckless and irresponsible car driving by
>>>> drivers who want to shave a few seconds off a long journey. These
>>>> people have absolutely no regard for their own safety and that of
>>>> others. There is only a certain amount of safety improvments that
>>>> can be carried out on the road. the remaining improvements must be
>>>> carried out by the road users.
>>>
>>> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sectionhome.aspx?sectionID=7074
>>>
>>> I dunno about "pole position" - it's in the third rank of letters on
>>> their website.
>>>
>>
>> First in the printed edition.
>
> Did it get the "star letter" accolade?

It got first place on the left hand side. Unfortunately it wasnt long enough 
(or I'm not academic enough) to gain the black line underneath at the centre 
right position.

Keep youre eyes peeled on the Herald tomorrow though. Theres a guy who wrote 
in and gave his selfish car drivers opinion so I've emailed them and 
enlightened him with this letter;
Dear Sir,

As an LGV1 driver who uses the A9 regularly some of his points that Peter 
MacDonald (Letters 29th July) need correcting. The current UK law requires 
that all goods vehicles 17 tonnes and over are limited to a maximum speed 
limit of 40 MPH on all single carriageways including the A9 and travelling 
at over this speed (especially through the speed cameras) results in the 
typical 3 points endorsement and a £60 fine. It is completely impracticable 
that goods vehicles should pull in to let other traffic past - we are 
working and have time and cost requirements to meet. I'd also like to point 
out to him that the roads are there to cater for all traffic - not just 
cars.


McK.

It gets boring after a while doesnt it?

McKev (yay!) wrote:
> "Brimstone"  wrote in message
> news:1PadnYB_iqOI7BLVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> McKev (yay!) wrote:
>>> "Adrian"  wrote in message
>>> news:6f9707F9dbt8U7@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding
>>>> much like they were saying:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in
>>>>>>>> todays Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>>>>
>>>>>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>>>>
>>>>>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>>>>
>>>>> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth -
>>>>> Inverness road. Over the years there have been many calls from
>>>>> many quarters demanding that road be upgraded to dual carriageway.
>>>>> Despite the many of the visual improvements such as fluorescent
>>>>> surrounds to warning signs, improved road markings and lower speed
>>>>> limits on certain areas, yet there is still a high number of
>>>>> fatalities. As an LGV1 driver who regularly drives this stretch I
>>>>> witness incredibly reckless and irresponsible car driving by
>>>>> drivers who want to shave a few seconds off a long journey. These
>>>>> people have absolutely no regard for their own safety and that of
>>>>> others. There is only a certain amount of safety improvments that
>>>>> can be carried out on the road. the remaining improvements must be
>>>>> carried out by the road users.
>>>>
>>>> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sectionhome.aspx?sectionID=7074
>>>>
>>>> I dunno about "pole position" - it's in the third rank of letters
>>>> on their website.
>>>>
>>>
>>> First in the printed edition.
>>
>> Did it get the "star letter" accolade?
>
> It got first place on the left hand side. Unfortunately it wasnt long
> enough (or I'm not academic enough) to gain the black line underneath
> at the centre right position.
>
> Keep youre eyes peeled on the Herald tomorrow though. Theres a guy
> who wrote in and gave his selfish car drivers opinion so I've emailed
> them and enlightened him with this letter;
> Dear Sir,
>
> As an LGV1 driver who uses the A9 regularly some of his points that
> Peter MacDonald (Letters 29th July) need correcting. The current UK
> law requires that all goods vehicles 17 tonnes and over are limited
> to a maximum speed limit of 40 MPH on all single carriageways
> including the A9 and travelling at over this speed (especially
> through the speed cameras) results in the typical 3 points
> endorsement and a £60 fine. It is completely impracticable that goods
> vehicles should pull in to let other traffic past - we are working
> and have time and cost requirements to meet. I'd also like to point
> out to him that the roads are there to cater for all traffic - not
> just cars.
>
> McK.
>
> It gets boring after a while doesnt it?

Indeed, we all know that the most important vehicle on the road is the one 
taking a yuppie out on the piss.

McKev (yay!) wrote:
> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
> news:4fc69cb159dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>> In article <g6nm83$d5i$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>>   Silk  wrote:
>>> Dave Plowman wrote:
>>>> In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>>>>    Silk  wrote:
>>>>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>>>>>> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>>>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>>>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>>>>
>>> What's the English for "cra driver"?
>> Fa spik tha? Or furry boots ya read it?
>>
>> -- 
>> *I don't suffer from insanity -- I'm a carrier
>>
> They did correct it in the printed article :) 
> 

So it wasn't unedited then.

McKev (yay!) wrote:
> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
> news:4fc6990e33dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>> In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>>   Silk  wrote:
>>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>>>> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>>
> Dear Sir,
> 
> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth - Inverness 
> road. Over the years there have been many calls from many quarters demanding 
> that road be upgraded to dual carriageway. Despite the many of the visual 
> improvements such as fluorescent surrounds to warning signs, improved road 
> markings and lower speed limits on certain areas, yet there is still a high 
> number of fatalities. As an LGV1 driver who regularly drives this stretch I 
> witness incredibly reckless and irresponsible car driving by drivers who 
> want to shave a few seconds off a long journey. These people have absolutely 
> no regard for their own safety and that of others. There is only a certain 
> amount of safety improvments that can be carried out on the road. the 
> remaining improvements must be carried out by the road users.

A couple of points: There is no such thing as LGV1 and your biggoted 
remarks about "car driving bt drivers who want to shave a few seconds 
off a long journey" is just complete bollocks. When I "make progress" 
it's because I enjoy it, not because I have any pressing need to save 
time. Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b as 
quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
vehicles have the same objectives.

Tomorrows deep fried Mars bar paper.

McKev (yay!) wrote:

> As an LGV1 driver 

I've already told you there's no such thing, you thick twat.

In article <g6numd$s5t$3@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
> Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b as 
> quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
> vehicles have the same objectives.

So why the "must get out in front of the lorry" routine at junctions 
even though you're not even going the same way?

Why the "must cut across the front of the lorry even though there's a 1 
mile gap behind it" motorway exit routine?

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <g6numd$s5t$3@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
>> Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b as 
>> quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
>> vehicles have the same objectives.
> 
> So why the "must get out in front of the lorry" routine at junctions 
> even though you're not even going the same way?

I've no idea. You'll have to ask someone who does it. Maybe it's 
something to do with the fact that, unlike some lorry drivers on this 
newsgroup, people don't tend to have psychic abilities and don't know in 
advance which way the lorry is going to go, who knows? As I've said many 
times, I don't claim to speak for any particular group of people. I just 
speak for myself.

> Why the "must cut across the front of the lorry even though there's a 1 
> mile gap behind it" motorway exit routine?

No idea. Maybe the car driver is a lorry driver on his/her day off. Oh, 
of course, I forgot, you "know" it isn't a lorry driver because you're 
psychic, like your bum-friend McKunt.

In article <g6qcgs$2mg$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...

> > Why the "must cut across the front of the lorry even though there's a 1 
> > mile gap behind it" motorway exit routine?
> 
> No idea. Maybe the car driver is a lorry driver on his/her day off. Oh, 
> of course, I forgot, you "know" it isn't a lorry driver because you're 
> psychic, like your bum-friend McKunt.
> 
No, the suit jacket hanging in the back of the repmobile and the 
expensively shirted and tied "metrosexual" driving it gives the game 
away.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <g6qcgs$2mg$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
> 
>>> Why the "must cut across the front of the lorry even though there's a 1 
>>> mile gap behind it" motorway exit routine?
>> No idea. Maybe the car driver is a lorry driver on his/her day off. Oh, 
>> of course, I forgot, you "know" it isn't a lorry driver because you're 
>> psychic, like your bum-friend McKunt.

> No, the suit jacket hanging in the back of the repmobile and the 
> expensively shirted and tied "metrosexual" driving it gives the game 
> away.

Ah, jealosy.

In article <g6qeas$kif$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...

> > No, the suit jacket hanging in the back of the repmobile and the 
> > expensively shirted and tied "metrosexual" driving it gives the game 
> > away.
> 
> Ah, jealosy.
> 
Hardly. 

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <g6qeas$kif$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
> 
>>> No, the suit jacket hanging in the back of the repmobile and the 
>>> expensively shirted and tied "metrosexual" driving it gives the game 
>>> away.
>> Ah, jealosy.
>>
> Hardly. 
> 

Perhaps if you'd been a bit less fuckwitted at school you could be 
driving a nice car up and down the same motorways as you do in a filthy 
lorry and be earning 3 times the salary you do now.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:22:15 +0100, Conor 
wrote:

>In article <g6numd$s5t$3@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
>> Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b as 
>> quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
>> vehicles have the same objectives.
>
>So why the "must get out in front of the lorry" routine at junctions 
>even though you're not even going the same way?
>
>Why the "must cut across the front of the lorry even though there's a 1 
>mile gap behind it" motorway exit routine?

That happens to everyone, not just lorries.  Some idiots simply have
to be in the fast lane until just before they turn off.

> A couple of *pints*: There is no such thing as LGV1 and your biggoted 
> remarks about "car driving bt drivers who want to shave a few seconds off 
> a long journey" is just complete bollocks. When I "make progress" it's 
> because I enjoy it, not because I have any pressing need to save time. 
> Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b as quickly 
> as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" vehicles have 
> the same objectives.
>
> Tomorrows deep fried Mars bar paper.

Don't you look a right tit when you pick up on someone's spelling ...... 
then drop a fuckin' clanger yourself!!

'Nel' wrote:
>> A couple of *pints*: There is no such thing as LGV1 and your biggoted 
>> remarks about "car driving bt drivers who want to shave a few seconds 
>> off a long journey" is just complete bollocks. When I "make progress" 
>> it's because I enjoy it, not because I have any pressing need to save 
>> time. Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b 
>> as quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
>> vehicles have the same objectives.
>>
>> Tomorrows deep fried Mars bar paper.
> 
> Don't you look a right tit when you pick up on someone's spelling ...... 
> then drop a fuckin' clanger yourself!!

Don't you look an even bigger tit when you pick someone up for something 
they haven't actually done.

Silk  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>> A couple of *pints*: There is no such thing as LGV1 and your biggoted
>>> remarks about "car driving bt drivers who want to shave a few seconds
>>> off a long journey" is just complete bollocks. When I "make progress"
>>> it's because I enjoy it, not because I have any pressing need to save
>>> time. Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b
>>> as quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding"
>>> vehicles have the same objectives.
>>>
>>> Tomorrows deep fried Mars bar paper.

>> Don't you look a right tit when you pick up on someone's spelling
>> ...... then drop a fuckin' clanger yourself!!

> Don't you look an even bigger tit when you pick someone up for something
> they haven't actually done.

"Biggotted" has one G.
"bt" is a telephone company. I think you meant "by".
"a to b" would normally have "A" and "B" capitalised.
"Tomorrows" should have an apostrophe.

Oh, and "Don't you look..." is a question, so should have a question 
mark, not a full stop.

"Silk"  wrote in message 
news:g6qicn$rn8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Conor wrote:
>> In article <g6qeas$kif$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
>>
>>>> No, the suit jacket hanging in the back of the repmobile and the 
>>>> expensively shirted and tied "metrosexual" driving it gives the game 
>>>> away.
>>> Ah, jealosy.
>>>
>> Hardly.
>
> Perhaps if you'd been a bit less fuckwitted at school you could be driving 
> a nice car up and down the same motorways as you do in a filthy lorry and 
> be earning 3 times the salary you do now.


What is wrong with being a lorry driver?

I rather think your attitude stinks on this point - why is any job more or 
less important than being a lorry driver? I would have thought you could be 
intelligent enough to understand teamwork shouldn't stop at the office door.

Conor is guilty here as well. Maybe the majority of the drivers cutting you 
up are just poor drivers - they will do the same to motorbike, cars and 
cyclists after all.

-- 
MrBitsy
Rover 75 CDTi

> Don't you look an even bigger tit when you pick someone up for something
> they haven't actually done.

Sent 2 minutes before your corrected one.....

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McKev (yay!) wrote:
> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
> news:4fc6990e33dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>> In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>>   Silk  wrote:
>>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>>>> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth - 
> Inverness road. Over the years there have been many calls from many 
> quarters demanding that road be upgraded to dual carriageway. Despite the 
> many of the visual improvements such as fluorescent surrounds to warning 
> signs, improved road markings and lower speed limits on certain areas, yet 
> there is still a high number of fatalities. As an LGV1 driver who 
> regularly drives this stretch I witness incredibly reckless and 
> irresponsible car driving by drivers who want to shave a few seconds off a 
> long journey. These people have absolutely no regard for their own safety 
> and that of others. There is only a certain amount of safety improvments 
> that can be carried out on the road. the remaining improvements must be 
> carried out by the road users.

A couple of pints: There is no such thing as LGV1 and your biggoted
remarks about "car driving bt drivers who want to shave a few seconds
off a long journey" is just complete bollocks. When I "make progress"
it's because I enjoy it, not because I have any pressing need to save
time. Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b as
quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding"
vehicles have the same objectives.

Tomorrows deep fried Mars bar paper.

Adrian wrote:
> Silk  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
> 
>>>> A couple of *pints*: There is no such thing as LGV1 and your biggoted
>>>> remarks about "car driving bt drivers who want to shave a few seconds
>>>> off a long journey" is just complete bollocks. When I "make progress"
>>>> it's because I enjoy it, not because I have any pressing need to save
>>>> time. Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b
>>>> as quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding"
>>>> vehicles have the same objectives.
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrows deep fried Mars bar paper.
> 
>>> Don't you look a right tit when you pick up on someone's spelling
>>> ...... then drop a fuckin' clanger yourself!!
> 
>> Don't you look an even bigger tit when you pick someone up for something
>> they haven't actually done.
> 
> "Biggotted" has one G.
> "bt" is a telephone company. I think you meant "by".
> "a to b" would normally have "A" and "B" capitalised.
> "Tomorrows" should have an apostrophe.
> 
> Oh, and "Don't you look..." is a question, so should have a question 
> mark, not a full stop.

I wasn't criticising McKunts spelling. It was his poor grasp of facts, 
for example, there's no such thing as an LGV1 driver.

I'm sure it must be hard for you sometimes Adrian, but please try to 
keep up.

'Nel' wrote:
> 
>> Don't you look an even bigger tit when you pick someone up for something
>> they haven't actually done.
> 
> Sent 2 minutes before your corrected one.....
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> McKev (yay!) wrote:
>> "Dave Plowman"  wrote in message 
>> news:4fc6990e33dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>>> In article <g6nfg2$enk$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>>>   Silk  wrote:
>>>>> Would you believe that they actually published it in full in todays
>>>>> Scotsman? It was in pole position and unedited too :D
>>>> That means twice as many people have now read it.
>>> Could reach a wider audience if someone posted a translation.
>>>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Today (26th July) witnessed yet another tragedy on the A9 Perth - 
>> Inverness road. Over the years there have been many calls from many 
>> quarters demanding that road be upgraded to dual carriageway. Despite 
>> the many of the visual improvements such as fluorescent surrounds to 
>> warning signs, improved road markings and lower speed limits on 
>> certain areas, yet there is still a high number of fatalities. As an 
>> LGV1 driver who regularly drives this stretch I witness incredibly 
>> reckless and irresponsible car driving by drivers who want to shave a 
>> few seconds off a long journey. These people have absolutely no regard 
>> for their own safety and that of others. There is only a certain 
>> amount of safety improvments that can be carried out on the road. the 
>> remaining improvements must be carried out by the road users.
> 
> A couple of pints: There is no such thing as LGV1 and your biggoted
> remarks about "car driving bt drivers who want to shave a few seconds
> off a long journey" is just complete bollocks. When I "make progress"
> it's because I enjoy it, not because I have any pressing need to save
> time. Just because driving a lorry is only about getting from a to b as
> quickly as possible, don't assume those who drive more "rewarding"
> vehicles have the same objectives.
> 
> Tomorrows deep fried Mars bar paper.

So? I wasn't criticising his spelling, so your point in null and void.

MrBitsy wrote:
> "Silk"  wrote in message 
> news:g6qicn$rn8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Conor wrote:
>>> In article <g6qeas$kif$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
>>>
>>>>> No, the suit jacket hanging in the back of the repmobile and the 
>>>>> expensively shirted and tied "metrosexual" driving it gives the 
>>>>> game away.
>>>> Ah, jealosy.
>>>>
>>> Hardly.
>>
>> Perhaps if you'd been a bit less fuckwitted at school you could be 
>> driving a nice car up and down the same motorways as you do in a 
>> filthy lorry and be earning 3 times the salary you do now.
> 
> 
> What is wrong with being a lorry driver?

Nothing. But that's doesn't mean a lorry driver has a right to criticise 
those who have different aspirations.
> 
> I rather think your attitude stinks on this point - why is any job more 
> or less important than being a lorry driver? I would have thought you 
> could be intelligent enough to understand teamwork shouldn't stop at the 
> office door.

Of course, but this is Conor we're talking about here. Someon who thinks 
lorry drivers are far more important than anyone else.
> 
> Conor is guilty here as well. Maybe the majority of the drivers cutting 
> you up are just poor drivers - they will do the same to motorbike, cars 
> and cyclists after all.

Agian, Conor and his cronies can't accept that lorry drivers can do any 
wrong.

Silk  wrote:

> don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
> vehicles have the same objectives.

I thought you drove a Skoda....

-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

SteveH wrote:
> Silk  wrote:
> 
>> don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
>> vehicles have the same objectives.
> 
> I thought you drove a Skoda....

I wasn't refering to myself. I find my Skoda fairly rewarding, others 
may not. It's a free country. I'm sure you'd agree with me, however, 
that pretty much any modern car would be a more rewarding drive than a 
truck.

"Silk"  wrote in message 
news:g6vl7l$sr5$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> 'Nel' wrote:
>>
>>> Don't you look an even bigger tit when you pick someone up for something
>>> they haven't actually done.
>>
>> Sent 2 minutes before your corrected one.....
<Silk's cock-up snipped>

> So? I wasn't criticising his spelling, so your point in null and void.

[Your response to McKev's spelling mistake, earlier in the thread]
What's the English for "cra driver"?

What the fuck is that then???

Silk  wrote:

> SteveH wrote:
> > Silk  wrote:
> > 
> >> don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
> >> vehicles have the same objectives.
> > 
> > I thought you drove a Skoda....
> 
> I wasn't refering to myself. I find my Skoda fairly rewarding, others
> may not. It's a free country. I'm sure you'd agree with me, however, 
> that pretty much any modern car would be a more rewarding drive than a
> truck.

Hmmm, I've driven a Mk 3 Mondeo diesel.... so I reckon it would be a
close-run thing.

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'Nel' wrote:
> 
> "Silk"  wrote in message 
> news:g6vl7l$sr5$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>> 'Nel' wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't you look an even bigger tit when you pick someone up for 
>>>> something
>>>> they haven't actually done.
>>>
>>> Sent 2 minutes before your corrected one.....
> <Silk's cock-up snipped>
> 
>> So? I wasn't criticising his spelling, so your point in null and void.
> 
> [Your response to McKev's spelling mistake, earlier in the thread]
> What's the English for "cra driver"?
> 
> What the fuck is that then???
> 

You are a moron. It's all about context.

SteveH wrote:
> Silk  wrote:
> 
>> SteveH wrote:
>>> Silk  wrote:
>>>
>>>> don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
>>>> vehicles have the same objectives.
>>> I thought you drove a Skoda....
>> I wasn't refering to myself. I find my Skoda fairly rewarding, others
>> may not. It's a free country. I'm sure you'd agree with me, however, 
>> that pretty much any modern car would be a more rewarding drive than a
>> truck.
> 
> Hmmm, I've driven a Mk 3 Mondeo diesel.... so I reckon it would be a
> close-run thing.
> 

So have I. Point taken. ;-)

"Silk"  wrote in


. I'm sure you'd agree with me, however,
> that pretty much any modern car would be a more rewarding drive than a 
> truck.


What trucks have you driven?

I must admit that I have never driven a Skoda, although I have been a 
passenger in many of them, minicab drivers and their ilk seem to favour 
them.



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http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32454

In article <g6vldn$1al$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...

> Agian, Conor and his cronies can't accept that lorry drivers can do any 
> wrong.
> 
Despite the fact I've posted about stuff in the past?

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <g6vooc$5hv$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
> I'm sure you'd agree with me, however, 
> that pretty much any modern car would be a more rewarding drive than a 
> truck.
> 
And your vast experience of truck driving is?

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:41:58 +0100, Silk wrote
(in article <g6vldn$1al$1@registered.motzarella.org>):

>> 
>> 
>> What is wrong with being a lorry driver?
> 
> Nothing. But that's doesn't mean a lorry driver has a right to criticise 
> those who have different aspirations.

Why not? Everyone and his cat  seems to think it's perfectly OK to make 
adverse comments about truck drivers, freedom to insult their intelligence 
and driving skills appears to be a right, how come it shouldn't work the 
other way round.

>> 
>> I rather think your attitude stinks on this point - why is any job more 
>> or less important than being a lorry driver? I would have thought you 
>> could be intelligent enough to understand teamwork shouldn't stop at the 
>> office door.
> 
> Of course, but this is Conor we're talking about here. Someon who thinks 
> lorry drivers are far more important than anyone else.

I'm sure that's not the case, you are just letting your inferiority complex 
wind you up.

>> 
>> Conor is guilty here as well. Maybe the majority of the drivers cutting 
>> you up are just poor drivers - they will do the same to motorbike, cars 
>> and cyclists after all.
> 
> Agian, Conor and his cronies can't accept that lorry drivers can do any 
> wrong.

That is the case, get over it.


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:38:51 +0100, Silk wrote
(in article <g6vooc$5hv$1@registered.motzarella.org>):

> SteveH wrote:
>> Silk  wrote:
>> 
>>> don't assume those who drive more "rewarding" 
>>> vehicles have the same objectives.
>> 
>> I thought you drove a Skoda....
> 
> I wasn't refering to myself. I find my Skoda fairly rewarding, others 
> may not. It's a free country. I'm sure you'd agree with me, however, 
> that pretty much any modern car would be a more rewarding drive than a 
> truck.

Then you are sadly misinformed, regardless of the medium of motorised 
transport you drive/fly/sail/ride, there are pigs of every genre. 

I would get more pleasure out of a Volvo F16 at 44 tonnes than many modern 
small cars. I would rather fly a Fuji F200 or a Pitts special than a Cessna 
150, I would rather sail my Gaff Rigged Ketch or a Swan 44 than any  
Beneteau, or ride my BMW even though it's only fifty horsepower than just 
about any Jap superbike.

Still if you find a Skoda fairly rewarding then 'taste' in vehicles has 
passed way over your head.

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Conor wrote:
> In article <g6vldn$1al$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Silk says...
> 
>> Agian, Conor and his cronies can't accept that lorry drivers can do any 
>> wrong.
>>
> Despite the fact I've posted about stuff in the past?
> 

Only stuff along the lines of, "some lorry drivers are bad but car 
drivers are worse".

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:37:18 +0100, McKev (yay!)   
wrote:

>
> "Knight Of The Road"  wrote in message
> news:cfudnTwH9_CvFhbV4p2dnAA@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "McKev (yay!)"  wrote
>>
>>
>>
>> . Its not the road that needs
>>> upgraded but the fuckin moronic car drivers brains that need upgraded.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Be fair Kev, when a man needs a deep-fried Mars bar, four cans of
>> Tennent's Extra and a Tunnock's wafer, he is going to cut corners to get
>> it.
>>
>> Perhaps Holyrood should consider installing warning signs at these  
>> danger
>> spots reading "Danger, Doctor Ahead".
>>
>>
>
> True but would you believe there are NO corners on the A9? (seriously)

Er....


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The next time you're out driving around, and your mum's in the car, stop  
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