http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7517468.stm

Father charged over death crash
A Lincolnshire father has appeared before magistrates charged with causing 
the deaths of four of his children by dangerous driving.

Nigel Gresham's Land Rover went into the River Witham at Tattershall Bridge 
on 16 September 2007.

His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight, all 
died.

Mr Gresham, 37, of Witham Drive, Chapel Hill, was granted bail at Grantham 
magistrates. He will appear at Lincoln Crown Court on 29 July.

At Monday's hearing he spoke only to confirm his name and address.

'Evidence reviewed'

As the details of the case were read out to the court Mr Gresham took off 
his glasses and rubbed his eyes.

Magistrates decided the case was too serious for them to deal with and 
referred it to crown court.

Mr Gresham and his partner Sara Bolland, 31, were with their seven children 
when the crash happened.

Before the hearing, Jaswant Kaur Narwal, chief crown prosecutor for 
Lincolnshire, said: "This is a very sad case and we have spent a great deal 
of time reviewing the evidence and considering the public interest before 
making the decision to prosecute.

"It is not a decision which has been taken lightly given the tragic deaths 
of Mr Gresham's children and the loss he has suffered as their father."



I wonder what the outcome of the case will be.



McK.

McKev (yay!)  wrote:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7517468.stm
> 
> Father charged over death crash
> A Lincolnshire father has appeared before magistrates charged with causing
> the deaths of four of his children by dangerous driving.
> 
> Nigel Gresham's Land Rover went into the River Witham at Tattershall Bridge
> on 16 September 2007.
> 
> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight, all
> died.

To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
fortune in future benefit payments.
-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
>> all died.

> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
> fortune in future benefit payments.

I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at 
the fucking names..."

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6ek10mF7f0kuU3@mid.individual.net...
> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
>>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
>>> all died.
>
>> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>> fortune in future benefit payments.
>
> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
> the fucking names..."

Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...

McK

"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
>>>> all died.

>>> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>>> fortune in future benefit payments.

>> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
>> the fucking names..."

Oh, and the other three are Star, Liam & Amber. 

One sensible name and one borderline out of seven is probably an 
achievement...

> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...

Jaswant Kaur Narwal? What's wrong with that?

Jaswant - means "Victorious"
Kaur - standard female middle name for Sikhs, equivalent to Singh

(I'm sure she knows how to use an apostrophe, too)

Or are you just letting your BNP membership card show again...?

McKev (yay!)  wrote:

> "Adrian"  wrote in message 
> news:6ek10mF7f0kuU3@mid.individual.net...
> > steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> > were saying:
> >
> >>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
> >>> all died.
> >
> >> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
> >> fortune in future benefit payments.
> >
> > I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
> > the fucking names..."
> 
> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...

Really?

Care to explain that for us?

Looks like a perfectly respectable name to me.

-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

On 21 Jul 2008 18:22:43 GMT, Adrian  wrote:

>"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
>like they were saying:
>
>>>>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
>>>>> all died.
>
>>>> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>>>> fortune in future benefit payments.
>
>>> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
>>> the fucking names..."
>
>Oh, and the other three are Star, Liam & Amber. 
>
>One sensible name and one borderline out of seven is probably an 
>achievement...
>
>> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
>
>Jaswant Kaur Narwal? What's wrong with that?

It should be the Chief Crown Prosecutor of India.

Adrian  wrote:

> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
> 
> >> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
> >> all died.
> 
> > To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
> > fortune in future benefit payments.
> 
> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
> the fucking names..."

<cough> <waves> I'm surprised there were no Astroflashes or Zogs in the
list.

SteveH  wrote:

> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
> fortune in future benefit payments.

http://forum.4ormore.co.uk/cgi/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&pro
file=gresh-users

He seems to have closed down his website:

http://www.yellow110.co.uk

But the Wayback machine has it archived.

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6ek10mF7f0kuU3@mid.individual.net...
> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
>>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
>>> all died.
>
>> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>> fortune in future benefit payments.
>
> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
> the fucking names..."


Can you imagine going for a job interview.

"No , really... I *am* called Thor"

-- 
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk

Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> "Adrian"  wrote in message
> news:6ek10mF7f0kuU3@mid.individual.net...
>> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like
>> they were saying:
>>
>>>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy,
>>>> eight, all died.
>>
>>> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>>> fortune in future benefit payments.
>>
>> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK
>> at the fucking names..."
>
>
> Can you imagine going for a job interview.
>
> "No , really... I *am* called Thor"

He probably gets hammered at school.

"McKev (yay!)"  wrote in message 
news:M04hk.49785$7B3.862@newsfe30.ams2...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7517468.stm
>
> Father charged over death crash
> A Lincolnshire father has appeared before magistrates charged with causing 
> the deaths of four of his children by dangerous driving.
>
> Nigel Gresham's Land Rover went into the River Witham at Tattershall 
> Bridge on 16 September 2007.
>
> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight, all 
> died.
>
> Mr Gresham, 37, of Witham Drive, Chapel Hill, was granted bail at Grantham 
> magistrates. He will appear at Lincoln Crown Court on 29 July.
>
> At Monday's hearing he spoke only to confirm his name and address.
>
> 'Evidence reviewed'
>
> As the details of the case were read out to the court Mr Gresham took off 
> his glasses and rubbed his eyes.
>
> Magistrates decided the case was too serious for them to deal with and 
> referred it to crown court.
>
> Mr Gresham and his partner Sara Bolland, 31, were with their seven 
> children when the crash happened.
>
> Before the hearing, Jaswant Kaur Narwal, chief crown prosecutor for 
> Lincolnshire, said: "This is a very sad case and we have spent a great 
> deal of time reviewing the evidence and considering the public interest 
> before making the decision to prosecute.
>
> "It is not a decision which has been taken lightly given the tragic deaths 
> of Mr Gresham's children and the loss he has suffered as their father."
>
>
>
> I wonder what the outcome of the case will be.
>
>
>
> McK.
>
>
>

Perhaps with a new partner he can have some more children. Call the first 
Poseidon.

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6ek2fjF7gf89U4@mid.individual.net...
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
>>>>> all died.
>
>>>> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>>>> fortune in future benefit payments.
>
>>> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
>>> the fucking names..."
>
> Oh, and the other three are Star, Liam & Amber.
>
> One sensible name and one borderline out of seven is probably an
> achievement...
>
>> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
>
> Jaswant Kaur Narwal? What's wrong with that?
>
> Jaswant - means "Victorious"
> Kaur - standard female middle name for Sikhs, equivalent to Singh
>
> (I'm sure she knows how to use an apostrophe, too)
>
> Or are you just letting your BNP membership card show again...?

I dont have a membership card for the BNP.

"SteveH"  wrote in message 
news:1ikg0hh.1ex3l1taojgcnN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
> McKev (yay!)  wrote:
>
>> "Adrian"  wrote in message
>> news:6ek10mF7f0kuU3@mid.individual.net...
>> > steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like 
>> > they
>> > were saying:
>> >
>> >>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy, eight,
>> >>> all died.
>> >
>> >> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>> >> fortune in future benefit payments.
>> >
>> > I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK at
>> > the fucking names..."
>>
>> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
>
> Really?
>
> Care to explain that for us?
>
> Looks like a perfectly respectable name to me.
>

It depends upon the standards that you have.

...or dont have.

McKev (yay!)  wrote:

> >> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
> >
> > Really?
> >
> > Care to explain that for us?
> >
> > Looks like a perfectly respectable name to me.
> >
> 
> It depends upon the standards that you have.
> 
> ...or dont have. 

You're doing absolutely nothing to dispel the image of you being a
mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, xenophobic, racist with anger
management issues, you know.

-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

In , "Brimstone"
 wrote:
>Dr Zoidberg wrote:
>> "Adrian"  wrote in message
>> news:6ek10mF7f0kuU3@mid.individual.net...
>>> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like
>>> they were saying:
>>>
>>>>> His children, Willow, two, Angel, four, Thor, six, and Keavy,
>>>>> eight, all died.
>>>
>>>> To be fair, with names like that, he's probably saved the taxpayer a
>>>> fortune in future benefit payments.
>>>
>>> I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking "FFS, seven kids - and just LOOK
>>> at the fucking names..."
>>
>>
>> Can you imagine going for a job interview.
>>
>> "No , really... I *am* called Thor"
>
>He probably gets hammered at school. 

Gets? Thor's dead.

"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...

>> Jaswant Kaur Narwal? What's wrong with that?
>>
>> Jaswant - means "Victorious"
>> Kaur - standard female middle name for Sikhs, equivalent to Singh
>>
>> (I'm sure she knows how to use an apostrophe, too)
>>
>> Or are you just letting your BNP membership card show again...?

> I dont have a membership card for the BNP.

To be fair, I used to know somebody who'd been expelled from the 
Communist Party of GB for being too hard-line.

"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...

>> Really?
>>
>> Care to explain that for us?
>>
>> Looks like a perfectly respectable name to me.

> It depends upon the standards that you have.
> 
> ...or dont have.

Please continue...?

"SteveH"  wrote in message 
news:1ikg8sn.1eb3dnjssjqyyN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
> McKev (yay!)  wrote:
>
>> >> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
>> >
>> > Really?
>> >
>> > Care to explain that for us?
>> >
>> > Looks like a perfectly respectable name to me.
>> >
>>
>> It depends upon the standards that you have.
>>
>> ...or dont have.
>
> You're doing absolutely nothing to dispel the image of you being a
> mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, xenophobic, racist with anger
> management issues, you know.
>
> -- 

I dont have that image of me. I cant help whatever image that you have of 
me.

McK.

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6elci2F7gbjfU3@mid.individual.net...
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
>
>>> Jaswant Kaur Narwal? What's wrong with that?
>>>
>>> Jaswant - means "Victorious"
>>> Kaur - standard female middle name for Sikhs, equivalent to Singh
>>>
>>> (I'm sure she knows how to use an apostrophe, too)
>>>
>>> Or are you just letting your BNP membership card show again...?
>
>> I dont have a membership card for the BNP.
>
> To be fair, I used to know somebody who'd been expelled from the
> Communist Party of GB for being too hard-line.

Says a lot for the kind of people you aquaint yourself with.

"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>>> Or are you just letting your BNP membership card show again...?

>>> I dont have a membership card for the BNP.

>> To be fair, I used to know somebody who'd been expelled from the
>> Communist Party of GB for being too hard-line.

> Says a lot for the kind of people you aquaint yourself with.

Well, he's dead now, but he was an absolutely lovely bloke. Loved fine 
food and drink - just didn't see why it should be the preserve of "the 
privileged". Treated everybody equally, no matter who they were or their 
background.

Meanwhile, you proclaim somebody's name as ridiculous solely because it 
doesn't come from the same heritage as you do.

I know who I'd rather associate with.

>><cough> <waves> I'm surprised there were no Astroflashes or Zogs in the
>>list.

Zog - I like Zog - he is the little green alien on QBS catalogues and web 
site - drawn by Nick Butterworth of Percy the Park Keeper fame.

Yet the names were really silly!

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6elh2hF7gbjfU9@mid.individual.net...
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>>> Or are you just letting your BNP membership card show again...?
>
>>>> I dont have a membership card for the BNP.
>
>>> To be fair, I used to know somebody who'd been expelled from the
>>> Communist Party of GB for being too hard-line.
>
>> Says a lot for the kind of people you aquaint yourself with.
>
> Well, he's dead now, but he was an absolutely lovely bloke. Loved fine
> food and drink - just didn't see why it should be the preserve of "the
> privileged". Treated everybody equally, no matter who they were or their
> background.
>
> Meanwhile, you proclaim somebody's name as ridiculous solely because it
> doesn't come from the same heritage as you do.
>

How do you arrive at that?

"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>> Meanwhile, you proclaim somebody's name as ridiculous solely because it
>> doesn't come from the same heritage as you do.

> How do you arrive at that?

I read your post.

McKev (yay!)  wrote:

> "SteveH"  wrote in message 
> news:1ikg8sn.1eb3dnjssjqyyN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
> > McKev (yay!)  wrote:
> >
> >> >> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
> >> >
> >> > Really?
> >> >
> >> > Care to explain that for us?
> >> >
> >> > Looks like a perfectly respectable name to me.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It depends upon the standards that you have.
> >>
> >> ...or dont have.
> >
> > You're doing absolutely nothing to dispel the image of you being a
> > mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, xenophobic, racist with anger
> > management issues, you know.
> >
> > -- 
> 
> I dont have that image of me. I cant help whatever image that you have of
> me.

McKev, that's a fucking stupid name.

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6emeftF7pcuvU11@mid.individual.net...
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>> Meanwhile, you proclaim somebody's name as ridiculous solely because it
>>> doesn't come from the same heritage as you do.
>
>> How do you arrive at that?
>
> I read your post.

So by reading my post you know my heritage?

"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1ikhr0q.u7i9ck14bfmrkN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
> McKev (yay!)  wrote:
>
>> "SteveH"  wrote in message
>> news:1ikg8sn.1eb3dnjssjqyyN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
>> > McKev (yay!)  wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Theyre not as bad as the names of the Chief Crown Prosecutor...
>> >> >
>> >> > Really?
>> >> >
>> >> > Care to explain that for us?
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like a perfectly respectable name to me.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It depends upon the standards that you have.
>> >>
>> >> ...or dont have.
>> >
>> > You're doing absolutely nothing to dispel the image of you being a
>> > mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, xenophobic, racist with anger
>> > management issues, you know.
>> >
>> > -- 
>>
>> I dont have that image of me. I cant help whatever image that you have of
>> me.
>
> McKev, that's a fucking stupid name.

Really? Well it was to distinguise between another poster called Kev (who 
was English).

Its about as fucking stupid as Firth.

"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>>> Meanwhile, you proclaim somebody's name as ridiculous solely because
>>>> it doesn't come from the same heritage as you do.

>>> How do you arrive at that?

>> I read your post.

> So by reading my post you know my heritage?

I think it's safe to guess that you're probably not a Sikh - or, indeed, 
of any subcontinental background - from your posts here, yes.

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6emonaF7q92cU5@mid.individual.net...
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>>> Meanwhile, you proclaim somebody's name as ridiculous solely because
>>>>> it doesn't come from the same heritage as you do.
>
>>>> How do you arrive at that?
>
>>> I read your post.
>
>> So by reading my post you know my heritage?
>
> I think it's safe to guess that you're probably not a Sikh - or, indeed,
> of any subcontinental background - from your posts here, yes.

So youve guessed that I'm not a Sikh. That a random guess? How do you the 
heritage of the guys name that I highlighted? Another random guess?

McK.

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says...
> Says a lot for the kind of people you aquaint yourself with. 
> 
You do know his fetish for 2CVs don't you.
-- 
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"McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>> So by reading my post you know my heritage?

>> I think it's safe to guess that you're probably not a Sikh - or,
>> indeed, of any subcontinental background - from your posts here, yes.

> So youve guessed that I'm not a Sikh. That a random guess? How do you
> the heritage of the guys name that I highlighted? Another random guess?

The chief prosecutor, Jaswant Kaur Narwal, y'mean?

Do you have to go out of your way to make yourself look this stupid? Or 
does it come naturally?

Adrian wrote:
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>
>>>> So by reading my post you know my heritage?
>
>>> I think it's safe to guess that you're probably not a Sikh - or,
>>> indeed, of any subcontinental background - from your posts here,
>>> yes.
>
>> So youve guessed that I'm not a Sikh. That a random guess? How do you
>> the heritage of the guys name that I highlighted? Another random
>> guess?
>
> The chief prosecutor, Jaswant Kaur Narwal, y'mean?
>
> Do you have to go out of your way to make yourself look this stupid?
> Or does it come naturally?

Surely knowing the antecedents of a name is a matter of education and/or 
experience rather than intelligence?

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:10:15 +0100, "Brimstone"
 wrote:

>Adrian wrote:
>> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding
>> much like they were saying:
>>
>>>>> So by reading my post you know my heritage?
>>
>>>> I think it's safe to guess that you're probably not a Sikh - or,
>>>> indeed, of any subcontinental background - from your posts here,
>>>> yes.
>>
>>> So youve guessed that I'm not a Sikh. That a random guess? How do you
>>> the heritage of the guys name that I highlighted? Another random
>>> guess?
>>
>> The chief prosecutor, Jaswant Kaur Narwal, y'mean?
>>
>> Do you have to go out of your way to make yourself look this stupid?
>> Or does it come naturally?
>
>Surely knowing the antecedents of a name is a matter of education and/or 
>experience rather than intelligence? 

Surely education is only effective when matched with intelligence?

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6en170F7r5orU3@mid.individual.net...
> "McKev \(yay!\)"  gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>> So by reading my post you know my heritage?
>
>>> I think it's safe to guess that you're probably not a Sikh - or,
>>> indeed, of any subcontinental background - from your posts here, yes.
>
>> So youve guessed that I'm not a Sikh. That a random guess? How do you
>> the heritage of the guys name that I highlighted? Another random guess?
>
> The chief prosecutor, Jaswant Kaur Narwal, y'mean?
>
> Do you have to go out of your way to make yourself look this stupid? Or
> does it come naturally?

I take lessons from you.

Adrian  wrote:

>Well, he's dead now, but he was an absolutely lovely bloke. Loved fine 
>food and drink - just didn't see why it should be the preserve of "the 
>privileged". 

Which, obviously, it wasn't... Otherwise how would he have got hold of
it?

On 23 Jul, 07:43, g...@gmail.com (Graz) wrote:

> Surely education is only effective when matched with intelligence?

Not necessarily. Why do people pay for (some) private schools?

Ian

On 21 Jul, 22:23, st...@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote:

> You're doing absolutely nothing to dispel the image of you being a
> mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, xenophobic, racist with anger
> management issues, you know.

Remind me what he does for a living, will you?

Ian