On 8 Nov, 06:27, Doug  wrote:
> On 7 Nov, 17:12, NM  wrote:
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> > On 7 Nov, 08:25, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > On 6 Nov, 09:49, Conor  wrote:> In article <e90c8ede-1e1d-42aa-ba7b-f86b2ba78b49
> > > > @s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>
> > > > > Yes I can. Steps should be taken to reduce the threat from motor
> > > > > vehicles,
>
> > > > They already are which is why there are fewer deaths than there were
> > > > when the horse and cart was the most common form of transport.
>
> > > There are still far too many deaths and injuries.
>
> > > > > instead of encouraging them with high speed roads from which
> > > > > certain road users are discriminated against by exclusion.
>
> > > > That is to satisfy your criteria of increasing road safety. You can't
> > > > have it both ways.
>
> > > It should be possible to improve safety without restricting the rights
> > > of some public road users.
>
> > > > > Clearly
> > > > > there is a tacit policy on the part of authorities of 'speed before
> > > > > safety'
>
> > > > Really? So speed cameras are "speed before safety" then?
>
> > > No they are to ensure compliance with bad laws which allow unsafe
> > > speeds.
>
> > > > > accompanied by derisory punishments for killing and injuring
> > > > > and no lifetime driving bans.
>
> > > > Its a life sentence if you kill someone.
>
> > > What?
>
> > > > > > Motor vehicles are of course prohibited by law from driving as fast as
> > > > > > possible.
>
> > > > > Given that a majority of motorists routinely exceed speed limits that
> > > > > doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent.
>
> > > > Given that a majority of cyclists, by your own admission, cycle on the
> > > > pavements then you've hardly room to talk.
>
> > > Only a minority of cyclists use pavements as do a minority of
> > > motorists, hopefully.
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> > > A driving licence is a licence to kill.
>
> > Motorists, according to your logic, are being discriminated against
> > because they cannot drive down the pavements, if all public roads are
> > to be available to everyone at all times then pavement driving should
> > be allowed, have you any idea why it isn't?
>
> Pavements are cluttered with street furniture which should obstruct
> pavement driving. Nevertheless motorists frequently park and drive on
> pavements.
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaignswww.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.

Well why not park there? All roads, in their entirety, should be
freely available to all users at all times, pavement 'clutter' needs
to be removed to allow this? Can we assume you condone such activities?