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date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT),
group: uk.rec.cycling
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Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
predictable outrage:
Elle Macpherson's child bicycle bungle
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-child-bicycle-bungle-115875-20740183/
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT)
author: spindrift
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT), spindrift
said in
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>http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-child-bicycle-bungle-115875-20740183/
Attractive and popular person refuses to cower in abject terror at
the mere thought of bicycles! Mass panic in the streets as motor
manufacturers declare bankruptcy! Brompton founder given life
peerage and buys Kent!
Guy
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May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:49:08 +0100
author: Just zis Guy, you know?
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
On Sep 17, 11:49 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT), spindrift
> said in
> :
>
> >http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-ch...
>
> Attractive and popular person refuses to cower in abject terror at
> the mere thought of bicycles! Mass panic in the streets as motor
> manufacturers declare bankruptcy! Brompton founder given life
> peerage and buys Kent!
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
My Dutch mate can't see anything at all wrong with that.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:09:01 -0700 (PDT)
author: spindrift
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
spindrift wrote:
> On Sep 17, 11:49 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT), spindrift
>> said in
>> :
>>
>>> http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-ch...
>> Attractive and popular person refuses to cower in abject terror at
>> the mere thought of bicycles! Mass panic in the streets as motor
>> manufacturers declare bankruptcy! Brompton founder given life
>> peerage and buys Kent!
>>
>> Guy
>> --
>> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>>
>> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
>
> My Dutch mate can't see anything at all wrong with that.
Is she/he blind?! Surely any Dutch person worth their salt can see what
is wrong!
The kid's wearing a helmet!!
Colin
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:30:56 +0100
author: Colin Blackburn
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
On Sep 17, 12:30 pm, Colin Blackburn wrote:
> spindrift wrote:
> > On Sep 17, 11:49 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
> > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT), spindrift
> >> said in
> >> :
>
> >>>http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-ch.> >> Attractive and popular person refuses to cower in abject terror at
> >> the mere thought of bicycles! Mass panic in the streets as motor
> >> manufacturers declare bankruptcy! Brompton founder given life
> >> peerage and buys Kent!
>
> >> Guy
> >> --
> >> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> >> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
>
> > My Dutch mate can't see anything at all wrong with that.
>
> Is she/he blind?! Surely any Dutch person worth their salt can see what
> is wrong!
>
> The kid's wearing a helmet!!
>
> Colin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think it's a form of abuse.
I mean, calling him Aurelius Cy??!!!!?
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:44:48 -0700 (PDT)
author: spindrift
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
spindrift wrote:
> On Sep 17, 12:30 pm, Colin Blackburn wrote:
>> spindrift wrote:
>>> On Sep 17, 11:49 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT), spindrift
>>>> said in
>>>> :
>>>>> http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-ch...
>>>> Attractive and popular person refuses to cower in abject terror at
>>>> the mere thought of bicycles! Mass panic in the streets as motor
>>>> manufacturers declare bankruptcy! Brompton founder given life
>>>> peerage and buys Kent!
>>>> Guy
>>>> --
>>>> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>>>> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
>>> My Dutch mate can't see anything at all wrong with that.
>> Is she/he blind?! Surely any Dutch person worth their salt can see what
>> is wrong!
>>
>> The kid's wearing a helmet!!
>>
>
> I think it's a form of abuse.
>
> I mean, calling him Aurelius Cy??!!!!?
At least *he's* not Spartacus.
Colin
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:48:52 +0100
author: Colin Blackburn
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
"spindrift" wrote in message
news:450ee981-16ef-4d2c-9e09-57f2759716a9@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 17, 11:49 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT), spindrift
> said in
> :
>
> >http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-ch...
>
> Attractive and popular person refuses to cower in abject terror at
> the mere thought of bicycles! Mass panic in the streets as motor
> manufacturers declare bankruptcy! Brompton founder given life
> peerage and buys Kent!
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
> posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
My Dutch mate can't see anything at all wrong with that.
He needs educating....
Quote from the Mirror article..
"But the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents did not share the mum
of two's lack of concern - describing her actions as irresponsible.
The charity said: "It is both illegal and dangerous to carry more than one
person on a bike that's not designed for it. There are issues with balance
and it's easy to fall off." Elle was unavailable for comment yesterday. Two
years ago Viscount Linley was criticised after he was spotted cycling
through London traffic with his four-year-old daughter Margarita clinging to
the back of his foldaway bike.
Riding illegally with two on a bike can carry a fine of up to £2,500."
That would make Amsterdam an absolute gold-mine.
Odd thing is that according to
http://themes.eea.europa.eu/Sectors_and_activities/transport/indicators/TERM09,2001/Transport_accident_fatalities_TERM_2001.doc.pdf
in 1995 the Netherlands had the second lowest fatalities per billion
passenger km.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:49:00 +0100
author: Toby Sleigh
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
Toby Sleigh wrote:
> "spindrift" wrote in message
> news:450ee981-16ef-4d2c-9e09-57f2759716a9@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 17, 11:49 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:27:43 -0700 (PDT), spindrift
>> said in
>> :
>>
>>> http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/09/17/elle-macpherson-s-ch...
>> Attractive and popular person refuses to cower in abject terror at
>> the mere thought of bicycles! Mass panic in the streets as motor
>> manufacturers declare bankruptcy! Brompton founder given life
>> peerage and buys Kent!
>>
>> Guy
>> --
>> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
>> posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>>
>> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
>
> My Dutch mate can't see anything at all wrong with that.
>
> He needs educating....
>
> Quote from the Mirror article..
>
> "But the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents did not share the mum
> of two's lack of concern - describing her actions as irresponsible.
>
> The charity said: "It is both illegal and dangerous to carry more than one
> person on a bike that's not designed for it. There are issues with balance
> and it's easy to fall off." Elle was unavailable for comment yesterday. Two
> years ago Viscount Linley was criticised after he was spotted cycling
> through London traffic with his four-year-old daughter Margarita clinging to
> the back of his foldaway bike.
>
> Riding illegally with two on a bike can carry a fine of up to £2,500."
>
> That would make Amsterdam an absolute gold-mine.
>
> Odd thing is that according to
>
> http://themes.eea.europa.eu/Sectors_and_activities/transport/indicators/TERM09,2001/Transport_accident_fatalities_TERM_2001.doc.pdf
>
> in 1995 the Netherlands had the second lowest fatalities per billion
> passenger km.
>
The real issue with transporting children on bicycles is NOT getting
their feet in the spokes. Otherwise they bounce pretty good ;)
--
/Marten
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date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:22:30 +0200
author: M-gineering
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
M-gineering wrote:
> The real issue with transporting children on bicycles is NOT getting
> their feet in the spokes. Otherwise they bounce pretty good ;)
Which is why Dutch bikes have skirt guards... so your pal sat on the
rear rack doesn't dangle their feet into the back wheel by mistake.
Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
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date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:59:26 +0100
author: Peter Clinch
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:30:56 +0100, Colin Blackburn wrote:
> Is she/he blind?! Surely any Dutch person worth their salt can see what
> is wrong!
Shouldn't the child have his own bike at 4 years old, or be walking? You
have to be pedalling on the bike for it to keep you fit and healthy.
peter
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:13:28 -0500
author: naked_draughtsman
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
Bill C wrote:
> Didn't we all do that kind of thing all the time as kids? Maybe even
> one on the handlebars, one on the seat or rear rack, and pedal
> standing for three up.
Of course we did. But we're not children of Famous Celebrities so it
didn't matter.
Pete.
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Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:28:07 +0100
author: Peter Clinch
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
A riposte in today's Graun, good piece:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/19/transport.transport
Pete.
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Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:23:57 +0100
author: Peter Clinch
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
Peter Clinch writes:
> A riposte in today's Graun, good piece:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/19/transport.transport
Good article, but rather focussed on the h****t question.
I was more interested (to the extent I was at all interested, IYSWIM) in
the way she had her kid balanced on the handlebars, which looked a
little dodgy.
date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:29:12 +0100
author: Paul Rudin
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Re: Elle McPherson's cycling child Hell.
Paul Rudin wrote:
> I was more interested (to the extent I was at all interested, IYSWIM) in
> the way she had her kid balanced on the handlebars, which looked a
> little dodgy.
I would say, from having done that sort of "stupid" thing myself (from
the kid's perspective, not the parent's) for the last 40 odd years, that
the kid had /himself/ balanced with his mother's co-operation. Put a
child somewhere they don't feel safe and they will say so and make
attempts to change matters.
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:39:00 +0100
author: Peter Clinch
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