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date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:11:10 +0100,    group: uk.rec.cycling        back       
Unusual beast ...   
Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...

http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml

Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.

Ian
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:11:10 +0100   author:   Ian

Re: Unusual beast ...   
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:11:10 +0100, Ian
 wrote:

>Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>
>http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>
>Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>
>Ian


They're shit - a friend of mine had one and it fell apart very
quickly.
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:17:24 +0100   author:   rover

Re: Unusual beast ...   
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:17:24 +0100, rover   wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:11:10 +0100, Ian
> wrote:
>
>>Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>>
>>http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>>
>>Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>>
>>Ian
>
>
>They're shit - a friend of mine had one and it fell apart very
>quickly.


Mine isn't. <counts on fingers> 9 years old, still going strong.


-- 
Tim
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:25:35 +0100   author:   Tim Hall

Re: Unusual beast ...   
"Ian"  wrote in message 
news:9MZuk.231849$D01.77253@newsfe17.ams2...
> Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>
> http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>
> Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>
I saw one in the Lidl car park on Dalry and had a chat with its owner - he 
was very happy to let me take it for a spin, even with his daughter in a 
trailer out back!

I'd love one if ever a) I had need of a tandem and b) had anywhere to put 
it.

pOB
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:29:53 GMT   author:   Pob

Re: Unusual beast ...   
On 1 Sep, 23:11, Ian  wrote:
> Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>
> http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>
> Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>
> Ian

who has control?
date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 02:04:55 -0700 (PDT)   author:   TerryJ

Re: Unusual beast ...   
TerryJ wrote:
> On 1 Sep, 23:11, Ian  wrote:
>> Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>>
>> http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>>
>> Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>>
>> Ian
> 
> who has control?

The stoker is in the front, recumbent, the captain steers (and brakes,
and handles gears) from the rear, upright position.

Pete.
-- 
Peter Clinch                    Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637   Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177              Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk     http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:22:06 +0100   author:   Peter Clinch

Re: Unusual beast ...   
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:22:06 +0100, Peter Clinch
 wrote:

>TerryJ wrote:
>> On 1 Sep, 23:11, Ian  wrote:
>>> Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>>>
>>> http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>>>
>>> Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>>>
>>> Ian
>> 
>> who has control?
>
>The stoker is in the front, recumbent, the captain steers (and brakes,
>and handles gears) from the rear, upright position.
>

As the stoker in my case is Mrs. Hall, she has control over
everything. 


But really, as Pete says, I have it all. She does have the option of
hanging on to the bars, either side of the seat, for grim death. And
ringing the bell.

-- 
Tim
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:27:35 +0100   author:   Tim Hall

Re: Unusual beast ...   
Tim Hall wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:22:06 +0100, Peter Clinch
> wrote:
>
>>TerryJ wrote:
>>> On 1 Sep, 23:11, Ian  wrote:
>>>> Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>>>>
>>> who has control?
>>
>>The stoker is in the front, recumbent, the captain steers (and brakes,
>>and handles gears) from the rear, upright position.
>>
>
>As the stoker in my case is Mrs. Hall, she has control over
>everything. 
>
>
>But really, as Pete says, I have it all. She does have the option of
>hanging on to the bars, either side of the seat, for grim death. And
>ringing the bell.

The stoker also has the option to peadal or not. There's a freewheel
in that part of the drivetrain.
-- 
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:18:32 +0100   author:   Phil Cook

Re: Unusual beast ...   
Ian wrote:
> Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>
> http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>
> Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>
> Ian



We saw one of these on a mountain road in Laos earlier this year.
It took me a while to register what I'd actually seen.

Jan
date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:26:25 +0100   author:   Jan

Re: Unusual beast ...   
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:26:25 +0100, "Jan"  wrote:

>Ian wrote:
>> Spotted this evening on the canal path in Edinburgh...
>>
>> http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/html/pino.shtml
>>
>> Couldn't quite work out what it was until I passed it.
>>
>> Ian
>
>
>
>We saw one of these on a mountain road in Laos earlier this year.
>It took me a while to register what I'd actually seen.

I saw one in Germany last week.  

Also a friend had one.  His new girlfriend didn't like cycling so he
bought one to try to get her into cycling.  It didn't work and the
machine was hardly used.  Just before he died from pancreatic cancer
in January this year he sold it on ebay for £300.
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:37:39 +0100   author:   Tom Crispin e

Re: Unusual beast ...   
Tim Hall  writes:

>On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:22:06 +0100, Peter Clinch
>>
>>The stoker is in the front, recumbent, the captain steers (and brakes,
>>and handles gears) from the rear, upright position.
>>

>As the stoker in my case is Mrs. Hall, she has control over
>everything. 


>But really, as Pete says, I have it all. She does have the option of
>hanging on to the bars, either side of the seat, for grim death. And
>ringing the bell.

As the stoker also doesn't need hands or eyes for steering they may be the 
one reading the map and thus controlling where the route goes?

Roos
date: 02 Sep 2008 18:11:26 GMT   author:   Roos Eisma

Re: Unusual beast ...   
On 02 Sep 2008 18:11:26 GMT, Roos Eisma  wrote:

>Tim Hall  writes:

>
>>But really, as Pete says, I have it all. She does have the option of
>>hanging on to the bars, either side of the seat, for grim death. And
>>ringing the bell.
>
>As the stoker also doesn't need hands or eyes for steering they may be the 
>one reading the map and thus controlling where the route goes?

Partly correct. She'll read the map and tell me where the route goes.
Whether I follow the instruction is another matter.


Some years ago Mrs. Hall was captain and daughter was stoking.
Foolishly we let her read a book at the same time, resulting in
minimal pedalling effort.  The book was then confined to the pannier.

-- 
Tim
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:56:18 +0100   author:   Tim Hall

Re: Unusual beast ...   
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:56:18 +0100, Tim Hall
 said in
:

>Partly correct. She'll read the map and tell me where the route goes.
>Whether I follow the instruction is another matter.

# How many roads must a man walk down
# Before he admits he is lost...

Guy
-- 
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date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:52:46 +0100   author:   Just zis Guy, you know?

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