Hi,

I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

TIA,

Martin.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

Hi,

I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

TIA,

Martin.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

Hi,

I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

TIA,

Martin.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

Hi,

I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

TIA,

Martin.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

"Alan J. Wylie"  wrote:

> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems
> around here please, and as for bolts, well ...

Indeed... I'd actually assumed gear, but Rockfax says:

> This varied guidebook covers the accessible sport
> climbing (and a touch of trad) on a selection of
> different crags across the Lake District ranging

but I imagine (if it like the peak) that those bolted climbs are (a) single 
pitch and (b) super-hard?


I'll leave the grading argument for another time :)

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

"Alan J. Wylie"  wrote:

> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems
> around here please, and as for bolts, well ...

Indeed... I'd actually assumed gear, but Rockfax says:

> This varied guidebook covers the accessible sport
> climbing (and a touch of trad) on a selection of
> different crags across the Lake District ranging

but I imagine (if it like the peak) that those bolted climbs are (a) single 
pitch and (b) super-hard?


I'll leave the grading argument for another time :)

Alan, Mark, Steve, John: thanks for all of the suggestions, chaps - there's 
certainly plenty of ammunition there.

Now I just need to scare up a guidebook locally... and persuade G to buy 
some more gear so I don't have to drag mine about ;-)

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

"Alan J. Wylie"  wrote:

> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems
> around here please, and as for bolts, well ...

Indeed... I'd actually assumed gear, but Rockfax says:

> This varied guidebook covers the accessible sport
> climbing (and a touch of trad) on a selection of
> different crags across the Lake District ranging

but I imagine (if it like the peak) that those bolted climbs are (a) single 
pitch and (b) super-hard?


I'll leave the grading argument for another time :)

Alan, Mark, Steve, John: thanks for all of the suggestions, chaps - there's 
certainly plenty of ammunition there.

Now I just need to scare up a guidebook locally... and persuade G to buy 
some more gear so I don't have to drag mine about ;-)

Martin Carpenter wrote:

> Now I just need to scare up a guidebook locally... 

The new (2003) FRCC selected Lakes guide is very good indeed:
http://www.needlesports.com/acatalog/Mail_Order_Lake_District_Climbing_Guide_Books_1.html

(Possibly even worth paying for, if you can't beg, borrow or steal one!)

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:

> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
please, and as for bolts, well ...

Borrowdale:

  Gillercombe Buttress 104m S

  Corvus 157m D

Langdale:

  Bowfell Buttress 106m VD


-- 
Alan J. Wylie                                          http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
  -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Hi, Martin & all,

"Martin Carpenter"  wrote in message 
news:46058257$0$23633$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would 
> like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this 
> area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley 
> and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't 
> exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

I've only done a couple of long routes in the Lakes, and neither really gets 
to a proper summit, but you could consider Direct Route on Castle Rock of 
Triermain
near St John's in the Vale (VS 4b, I think) or Troutdale Pinnacle in 
Borrowdale (S).  Either of these is within easy reach and the latter has a 
more tasty Direct version, which I haven't done, but is probably less 
polished than the easy one.

There are some rather poor pictures (and even worse captions) at 
http://www.pardoes.nildram.co.uk/pages/troutpin.htm and of course much 
better descriptions on ukclimbing's http://www.ukclimbing.com/databases/.

Hope this helps, have a good time and don't forget the Trip Report, u.r.c 
needs them!

Steve P

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Alan J. Wylie wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0100, "Martin Carpenter"  said:
> 
>> I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and
>> would like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never
>> climbed in this area and so I'll take recommendations - we're
>> staying in Thirlmere valley and we will have a car. We're looking
>> for a route to a summit that doesn't exceed f5, without abseil
>> descents. Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems around here
> please, and as for bolts, well ...
> 
> Borrowdale:
> 
>   Gillercombe Buttress 104m S
> 
>   Corvus 157m D
> 
> Langdale:
> 
>   Bowfell Buttress 106m VD
> 
> 

Also in Borrowdale:
	Troutdale Pinnacle (S)

- --
Mark Anderson/Scottish Climbing Archive
Email: maa [AT] scotclimb.org.uk
WWW:   www.scotclimb.org.uk

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Martin,

< I'll have a couple of free days in the Lake District coming up, and would
< like to trundle up an easy long route or two. I've never climbed in this
< area and so I'll take recommendations - we're staying in Thirlmere valley
< and we will have a car. We're looking for a route to a summit that doesn't
< exceed f5, without abseil descents. Any suggestions appreciated!

"Fool's Paradise" on Gowder Crag Borrowdale, is a long 435' classic easy VS, 
or "Little Chamonix" also in Borrowdale, a classic Vdiff, though a little 
polished now, or "Via Media" at S on the south crag of Castle Rock of 
Triermain. These climbs don't involve summits though.

A good route to a summit is "Moss Ghyll Grooves" on Scafell, at Mild VS 
(V6 - whatever that means!?!??) it is reasonably easy for the grade and is 
in a spectacular position with superb views, an absolute classic.

The route I would still love to do is Bill Peascod's "Eagle Front" at VS on 
Eagle Crag in Birkness Combe - a man may dream eh?

John

"Alan J. Wylie"  wrote:

> We'll have none of your strange foreign grading systems
> around here please, and as for bolts, well ...

Indeed... I'd actually assumed gear, but Rockfax says:

> This varied guidebook covers the accessible sport
> climbing (and a touch of trad) on a selection of
> different crags across the Lake District ranging

but I imagine (if it like the peak) that those bolted climbs are (a) single 
pitch and (b) super-hard?


I'll leave the grading argument for another time :)

Alan, Mark, Steve, John: thanks for all of the suggestions, chaps - there's 
certainly plenty of ammunition there.

Now I just need to scare up a guidebook locally... and persuade G to buy 
some more gear so I don't have to drag mine about ;-)

Martin Carpenter wrote:

> Now I just need to scare up a guidebook locally... 

The new (2003) FRCC selected Lakes guide is very good indeed:
http://www.needlesports.com/acatalog/Mail_Order_Lake_District_Climbing_Guide_Books_1.html

(Possibly even worth paying for, if you can't beg, borrow or steal one!)